Why our enemies targeted P3C Orion Aircrafts in attack on Mehran Naval Base

[GURU DUTT]

right!! the only thing which is going in your favor for the evanescent phase is that ur just start pff with ur love affair with Uncle Sam... enjoy it while it lasts, btw you failed miserably in convincing the world your point of view in connection to Ahmal kasab.

And what do you mean by 'the world speaking your language??????' kindly elabotae junior munnaa

well CHCHAA jan we indians take every diplomatin(international)relation as buissness not a love affair & dont consider any power as Freinds or Masters or whatever name you like to give to it..! what matters in the end that despite your AFFAIR with UNCLE look what they are doing to you in your own country & on the other hand inspite of Indrajees remarks about USA & 7th fleet sent by them we are still happy & unkleji is giving us neuklear deal & latest wepons ....so in short Just chill .!

 

[karan.1970]

not feeling bad, we will return the favor in an opportune time, don't worry freindly neighbor troll

Read which post I replied to and who am I asking to not feel bad...

 

[GOD OF WAR]

well CHCHAA jan we indians take every diplomatin(international)relation as buissness not a love affair & dont consider any power as Freinds or Masters or whatever name you like to give to it..! what matters in the end that despite your AFFAIR with UNCLE look what they are doing to you in your own country & on the other hand inspite of Indrajees remarks about USA & 7th fleet sent by them we are still happy & unkleji is giving us neuklear deal & latest wepons ....so in short Just chill .!

AsI said earlier, enjoy it while it LASTS munnnaaa Indians think they are 'oh so smart'

 

[Stumper]

God Of War :


Whats shocks and surprises me, is your reluctance to look inside. Indeed shocking to see someone finding solace in pointing fingers at the usual suspects.

Why should any intelligent person belive such theories......

1)The Talibs are known to have night vision glasses. In fact one of the army soldier helped them smuggle it.
2)Navy Base attack : If you indeed are inclined towards theories, check out what the slain journalist Saleem Shahzad had to say about the infirtation of the militants ranks in Pakistan Navy. In fact two brothers (one was a ex-navy personnel ) were arrested, is'nt it ?
3)If anything, it has been USA which was approached by Pakistan to act as a mediator for Kashmir issue. The same mumbai carnage got the war drums beating ... making your COAS not commit any forces for the operations against your tribal's (which USA had been demanding hard). And you belive USA facilitated this?

Do you see any way, your country can move ahead, unless it looks inwards , Admit mistakes and corrects whats wrong? ..... Do that and the world will respect you.

 

[GURU DUTT]

God Of War :


Whats shocks and surprises me, is your reluctance to look inside. Indeed shocking to see someone finding solace in pointing fingers at the usual suspects.

Why should any intelligent person belive such theories......

1)The Talibs are known to have night vision glasses. In fact one of the army soldier helped them smuggle it.
2)Navy Base attack : If you indeed are inclined towards theories, check out what the slain journalist Saleem Shahzad had to say about the infirtation of the militants ranks in Pakistan Navy. In fact two brothers (one was a ex-navy personnel ) were arrested, is'nt it ?
3)If anything, it has been USA which was approached by Pakistan to act as a mediator for Kashmir issue. The same mumbai carnage got the war drums beating ... making your COAS not commit any forces for the operations against your tribal's (which USA had been demanding hard). And you belive USA facilitated this?

Do you see any way, your country can move ahead, unless it looks inwards , Admit mistakes and corrects whats wrong? ..... Do that and the world will respect you.

one thing i learnt here is that instead of answer some seneors first deviate the thread & then try to bully juniors but then nobody seems to care about the core issue & kimply try to scuttle it by putting the blame in someone new&bullieng him...!

 

[T90TankGuy]

one thing i learnt here is that instead of answer some seneors first deviate the thread & then try to bully juniors but then nobody seems to care about the core issue & kimply try to scuttle it by putting the blame in someone new&bullieng him...!

my dear friend no one is a a junior or a senior . its that sort of thinking that does not allow a free exchange of thoughts , when you accept another's version just cuz he is a senior . question everything .

 

[Archie]

I'm sure The US has many PC 3s that are dispensable but it won't give t to Pakistan or at least delay the delivery in order to achieve some objectives. 3 Orions are a joke for the US! ye koi Maruti ki factory nai hey...

Whats the point of comparing delay in delivery or non delivery of PC 3 Orions to Maruti udyog

A company which makes a new car every 26 seconds

 

[Omar1984]

Blaming it on USA and asking the same planes from them to delivered ASAP and for free? What an epic hypocrisy!

We paid a lot of money to get those aircrafts and we dont have that much money to spend on new ones. And tell your fellow indians to stop spreading utter nonsense. Yea the Taliban were going to enter Karachi through the Arabian Sea in their submarines thats why they targeted P3C Orion out of all the military machine we have Pakistanis are not stupid to buy that bullsh!t.

Only certain people would benefit from this loss and its not anyone in Pakistan.

 

[Omar1984]

Whosoever was responsible..
The shameful thing is that 5, not 20, not 40.. FIVE.. men were able to hold a military base hostage for over 20 hours..
Killed multiple military personnel.. and caused a loss of millions of dollars.
Yet the Naval chief comes in the next day in his BMW 7 series(with the extra security options).. flag fluttering .. steps out in his pristine white uniform.. and looks around and leaves. Perhaps the money that went into the BMW might have bought a few more cameras.. more training. more fencing.

The Navy blamed the AF.. they blamed somebody else..
This is the ineptitude that has come over the Pakistani military.

Pakistan really needs a strong Navy, more than we need a strong Airforce or Army. Every regional power has their eye on the Ocean. Pakistan needs to buy more anti-submarine and maritime surveillance aircrafts. If not P3C Orion Aircrafts then something similar to it. P3C Orion Aircrafts were one of the most important aircrafts in Pakistan. What a loss.

 

[VelocuR]

Not only this Mehran attack, no doubt it must be all poor security in all public bases where foreigners can access at night.

I blamed SSG for slow progress, however, the good reason its navy is a big size and terrorists spread around.

US strongly punched Pakistan's face on OBL raid
US punched Pakistan Army on Mehran attack despite heavy alerts after OBL.

We found these 5-10 terrorists who destroyed P3C have no data record history in Pakistan systems. It is dangerous, we don't know who the real terrorists without data information.

Pakistan really needs a strong Navy, more than we need a strong Airforce or Army. Every regional power has their eye on the Ocean. Pakistan needs to buy more anti-submarine and maritime surveillance aircrafts. If not P3C Orion Aircrafts then something similar to it. P3C Orion Aircrafts were one of the most important aircrafts in Pakistan. What a loss.

As we know, China completed deal with Pakistan regarding advanced submarines (six Qing Class) and two Types 054. And naval version of JF-17s and maybe maritime surveillance aircrafts later. I think, this takes about ten years or less. Right now worrying, we don't know what US will do something before inductions of these new submarines.

 

[joekrish]

Just a honest question why would the US distroy or want to distroy only 2 out of the 4 P3 that pak owns if their intension was to cripple the survalence cap of pak.

 

[newdelhinsa]

We paid a lot of money to get those aircrafts and we dont have that much money to spend on new ones. And tell your fellow indians to stop spreading utter nonsense. Yea the Taliban were going to enter Karachi through the Arabian Sea in their submarines thats why they targeted P3C Orion out of all the military machine we have Pakistanis are not stupid to buy that bullsh!t.

Only certain people would benefit from this loss and its not anyone in Pakistan.

Your establishment has done investigation and your own men have been found complicit if you might have followed the whole episode. They haven't blamed anyone else but their very own. If USA or India are involved then tell your govt. to have some guts and blame them.

In every such single attack, starting for GHQ to Musharraf your own forces were involved and you still have the charm to accuse others in an open forum with your lies ?

This trend has become very obvious with Pakistanis that after good few months past of an event which had exposed complicity of very Pakistani people and dysfunctional state of their affairs, people like you will pop out and start accusing others. The irony is that many idiots like us rather pointing people like you back to actual events as unfolded and discrete actions taken by your own super establishment, we start defending ourselves thinking that you and likewise are ignorant and full of hatred. But in reality you and likewise are quite clever because you can hijack the whole incident with your selective reasoning and fictional theories.

Trust me your cry-fouls are not going to do any squat. You may be able to distract people by throwing doubts in their minds but ultimately it is going to inculcate sense of being victimised in their minds and pushing the real reasons under the carpet.

Best of luck with your self righteous propaganda; which is unfortunately without the backing of your own state. lol

 

[Alchemy]

But he has given us brain to get the knowledge of things happening around.

The first suspect is usually to be the ultimate beneficiary of the loss.

This logic did not work all the time does it ?For instance when Osama was hiding in Pak all along and Pak was denying it entirely ..... or may be it does ???

 

[GOD OF WAR]

This logic did not work all the time does it ?For instance when Osama was hiding in Pak all along and Pak was denying it entirely ..... or may be it does ???

The biggest lie, conspiracy, unsubstantiated statement the Westerm Media has churned out and hammered in the minds of the unthinking masses.

It has not been and never will be corroborated, just like the so-called assumption that Osama was the mastermind of 9-11. BS at its very best.

This us some proofs or quit acting like a media idiot box junkie

 

[GOD OF WAR]

one thing i learnt here is that instead of answer some seneors first deviate the thread & then try to bully juniors but then nobody seems to care about the core issue & kimply try to scuttle it by putting the blame in someone new&bullieng him...!

Its not me that started the mockery parade. you were acting all smart and sarcastic , I merely reciprocated the favor. quit whinning and be a big boy. If you want respect, give respect. The moment yo stop doing that be ready to absorb some verbal salvos from the other side