Why is metro rail construction costlier in Bangladesh?

[Homo Sapiens]

http://www.dhakatribune.com/business/2018/03/12/metro-rail-construction-costlier-bangladesh/

Why is metro rail construction costlier in Bangladesh?

• Shohel Mamun
• Published at 01:25 AM March 12, 2018
• Last updated at 01:27 AM March 12, 2018

Photo:Syed Zakir Hossain
The per km construction cost of Chennai metro rail is $55.5 million. Launched last year, most part of the metro rail is underground

As an easy and comfortable transport system metro rail service is quite popular in many cities around the world.



Bangladesh is building first ever 20.1 kilometre metro rail project between Uttara and Motijheel in Dhaka with the capacity of carrying 60,000 passengers each hour.

However, the construction cost of the metro rail (MRT line-6) in Dhaka is more than double comparing to neighboring Indian cities like Delhi or Mumbai.

The Dhaka Mass Rapid Transit Company Limited (DMTCL), a state-run entity implementing the metro rail project, has recently conducted a study on ‘cost of constructing metro rail in India versus Dhaka’. The study reveals that the construction cost in Bangladesh is higher than India.

On an average, per kilometre metro rail construction cost in India is $50-60 million, however Bangladesh is building the first metro rail project at a cost of $135 million per kilometre.

Bangladesh is constructing 20.1km long metro rail at a cost of $2.7 billion or Tk22,000 crore, said the DMTCL report.

According to the report, construction of the second phase of the 72km long metro rail in the Indian city of Banglalore started in 2014. The project is costing $4.7 billion that means $65.3 million per km. It has 13.79km underground road for which there will have 12 underground stations among 61 stations. Underground metro rail construction cost is generally three times higher than the elevated metro rail. The project is to be completed this year.

In another Indian city of Jaipur, a 12km long metro rail was completed in 2014 at a cost of $500 million that means per kilometre cost was only $41.7 million. This metro rail has also 2.78 km underground part along with three underground stations out of 11 stations.



The second phase of the project started in 2016. The 24km long project will have 6km underground along with five stations. There will have a total 20 stations. The cost of the project is only $1.02 billion while per km cost is $42.5 million. The project will be inaugurated in 2021.

Similarly, the per km construction cost of Chennai metro rail is $55.5 million. Launched last year, most part of the metro rail is underground.

“It is true that construction cost of metro rail is lower in India than Bangladesh. We need to conduct more study on finding ways to reduce the cost,” said Prof Shamsul Hoque of Civil Engineering department of Bangladesh University of Engineering Technology.

“But the project aspect of the two countries is different. India is already quite experienced in this sector as they have completed several metro rail projects in different states,” he added.


Can the cost of being stuck in traffic due to metro rail construction be calculated?
Photo: Syed Zakir Hossain

The metro rail project is being constructed under the financial assistance of Japan International Cooperation Agency (JICA). Of the total cost JICA will provide 75 percent and the rest will be met by the government of Bangladesh. JICA provided loan at 0.01 percent interest payable within 40 years, including a 10-year grace period.

The Italian-Thai Development Public Company Ltd, a Thai-based company and Chinese Company- Synohydro Corporation Ltd are constructing the metro rail under an agreement with the DMTCL.

 

[Homo Sapiens]

@gslv mk3

 

[Chaosmaster]

@gslv mk3

1. "Dhaka stations bigger thank Indian stations" :- Bigger than which Indian metro system's stations? I saw the artistic impression on DMTC website https://www.dmtc.org.bd/photographs#!prettyPhoto[gallery216]/13/, and honestly they are about the same size of our smaller, non interchangeable stations (I live in delhi, so talking as per the perspective of Delhi metro). the metro station near my house, a fairly typical residential area handled 34,612 passengers on an average as per 2015 figures, couldn't find the latest figures and the busiest handled 500,000 passengers a day. How many will Dhaka stations handle? or do you wanna compare with the area?

2. "Metro rail carriages will be bigger than Indian carriages" :- As per manufacturer of our Delhi metro carriage, they can carry 390 passengers each and have a length of 22.3 mt. Whats the size of Dhaka metro carriage? And also as per the pics, the metro design looks fairly old type like those of new York subway and Kolkata metro. :/

3. "Indian Govt. funds the metro projects and provides exemptions and subsidies" :- Many projects are started by taking the loans that the authority itself repays and in some projects govt takes the loans. Tax exemptions aren't provided for every city project, recently Kochi metro project was denied any exemptions, although the govt did say that they might give some subsidies, no decision on that so far. Some projects are also developed through PPP model, like the Delhi metro airport link (By Reliance group) and Rapid Metro in Gurgaon built and operated by Rapid Metro Gurgaon Ltd without any funding from the CG or SG and is the first fully privately funded and maintained metro system.

The last 3 points IMO are kinda valid, although I do believe its incompetency that even after so many years and projects its still costlier to build power plants and consultancy can be made cheaper if the govt. provides tax exemptions which it should since its the first project and is crucial for development. the top 2 points are pure bullshit and baseless.

 

[Homo Sapiens]

1. "Dhaka stations bigger thank Indian stations" :- Bigger than which Indian metro system's stations? I saw the artistic impression on DMTC website https://www.dmtc.org.bd/photographs#!prettyPhoto[gallery216]/13/, and honestly they are about the same size of our smaller, non interchangeable stations (I live in delhi, so talking as per the perspective of Delhi metro). the metro station near my house, a fairly typical residential area handled 34,612 passengers on an average as per 2015 figures, couldn't find the latest figures and the busiest handled 500,000 passengers a day. How many will Dhaka stations handle? or do you wanna compare with the area?

2. "Metro rail carriages will be bigger than Indian carriages" :- As per manufacturer of our Delhi metro carriage, they can carry 390 passengers each and have a length of 22.3 mt. Whats the size of Dhaka metro carriage? And also as per the pics, the metro design looks fairly old type like those of new York subway and Kolkata metro. :/

3. "Indian Govt. funds the metro projects and provides exemptions and subsidies" :- Many projects are started by taking the loans that the authority itself repays and in some projects govt takes the loans. Tax exemptions aren't provided for every city project, recently Kochi metro project was denied any exemptions, although the govt did say that they might give some subsidies, no decision on that so far. Some projects are also developed through PPP model, like the Delhi metro airport link (By Reliance group) and Rapid Metro in Gurgaon built and operated by Rapid Metro Gurgaon Ltd without any funding from the CG or SG and is the first fully privately funded and maintained metro system.

The last 3 points IMO are kinda valid, although I do believe its incompetency that even after so many years and projects its still costlier to build power plants and consultancy can be made cheaper if the govt. provides tax exemptions which it should since its the first project and is crucial for development. the top 2 points are pure bullshit and baseless.

Of course, as a suppa pawa citizen you can't accept anything better or bigger in Bangladesh than India. That's why first 3 points are false and the last 3 are true.

 

[Tanveer666]

regarding the 2nd point, why would government impose taxes on them?

 

[Chaosmaster]

Of course, as a suppa pawa citizen you can't accept anything better or bigger in Bangladesh than India. That's why first 3 points are false and the last 3 are true.

Read again what I said. I said the first 3 points are baseless and bullshit, because they aren't supported by facts. I presented u the facts supported by data and what do u come up with? Trolling?

 

[gslv mk3]

I thought there were enough debates on this topic...

The cost per km of Indian metro rails here includes underground sections. Dhaka metro's line 6 is elevated & it should be compared to elevated lines only.

1. Mumbai metro, Delhi metro (older lines) stations are designed for eight coach rakes whereas Delhi metro phase III, Hyderabad, Chennai, Kolkata etc are designed for six coach rakes. These aren't smaller than Dhaka metro.

2. Again no, see this news article about Dhaka metro rolling stock.

The cars will be 19·8 m long, 4·1 m high and 2950 mm wide

http://www.metro-report.com/news/si...a-dream-as-rolling-stock-contract-signed.html

Nearly all heavy/medium metro rail carriages in India have same width & are longer at 21.6-22.6 m. The Delhi & Hyderabad RS are wider at 3.2m.

3. I wouldn't comment as this is not a field I am interested in. I think @Chaosmaster have answered it correctly.

4. Agreed, but shouldn't that reflect on O&M cost rather than construction cost ?

5. Because we have enough expertise & we employ Indian consultants.

6. Indian made rolling stock is cheaper, but isn't as cheap as what is made out here.

Refer the above link which states that or Dhaka rolling stock where the average cost of a carriage comes to around ~$2.5 million. Compare that to this Kolkata metro contract where cost is around $1.6 million per carriage.

http://themetrorailguy.com/2017/06/22/kmrc-unveils-design-of-kolkata-metros-new-beml-trains/

So Japanese rolling stock wouldn't increase definitely will not increase cost as much as argued here.

 

[KapitaanAli]

Absolutely baseless claim being pushed for God knows what reason.

Let me repeat.
The only 'logic' being used to claim bigger carriages and stations is that someone calculated 60,000 (two way, 2 X 30k) by putting eight people per sq m. Imagine that.

There's nothing big about it. Just cramming more in, provided they buy tickets.

 

[gslv mk3]

Bangladesh is building first ever 20.1 kilometre metro rail project between Uttara and Motijheel in Dhaka with the capacity of carrying 60,000 passengers each hour.

30,000 pphpd.

 

[protest]

All in all, they reported lies to assuage Bangladeshi egos with no proof given for their assertions. Pretty neat way to cover ones corruption.

 

[Bhoot Pishach]

Of course, as a suppa pawa citizen you can't accept anything better or bigger in Bangladesh than India. That's why first 3 points are false and the last 3 are true.

Hey HOMO,

Provide Technical Data of DHAKA METRO :

1) Coaches.

2) Design Data of Metro Station. Atleast 1 station preferably Largest Station.

Here is Technical Data of Delhi Metro:

1) Coaches.
https://www.bombardier.com/content/...supporting-documents/BT-MOVIA-Metro_Delhi.pdf

• DT car 39.75 m2
• M/T car 41. 25 m2
• 4-car train 162 m2
• 6-car train 244. 5 m2
• 8-car train 327 m

Intermediate Trailer Car length 22 240 mm
Car width, max 3 200 mm
Car height, max (ARL) 4 048 mm
Ceiling height 2 050 mm

2) Stations: Kashmiri Gate:
https://www.hindustantimes.com/delh...rajiv-chowk/story-k0Bly32Vv27WmY7dlgoY9N.html

Delhi: Kashmere Gate Metro station to be double the size of Rajiv Chowk
According to DMRC, area wise, Kashmere Gate is going to be the biggest inter-change station. If we take all the floors, it will have a total area of about 11,000 square metres, which is almost three times the size of Rajiv Chowk.

Foot Fall per day: RAJIV CHOW - STATION

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com...cretariat-line-opens/articleshow/37243174.cms

Delhi Metro's Mandi House-Central Secretariat line opens

Presently Rajiv Chowk station handles 5 lakh passengers everyday, the minister noted.

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@Homo Sapiens If you cannot provide data, then just SHUT UP.

@gslv mk3 @Chaosmaster lets see what he comes up with.

P.S.: What I got for Dhaka:

http://www.metro-report.com/news/si...a-dream-as-rolling-stock-contract-signed.html

The cars will be 19·8 m long, 4·1 m high and 2 950 mm wide, with stainless steel bodies deigned for lightness and high durability.

 

[Michael Corleone]

The cost per km of Indian metro rails here includes underground sections. Dhaka metro's line 6 is elevated & it should be compared to elevated lines only.

But shouldn’t underground stations aka subways cost more by default!? Why should the elevated Dhaka metro be only compared to elevated ones? BecUse either way, it’s still costlier in bd.

 

[Chaosmaster]

But shouldn’t underground stations aka subways cost more by default!? Why should the elevated Dhaka metro be only compared to elevated ones? BecUse either way, it’s still costlier in bd.

Yes, underground lines are 3 times more costly as elevated ones. that's why BD line should be compared with only elevated line to make the comparison more fair.

 

[UKBengali]

What the Indian fools here do not understand is that BD is a very densely populated country and so the extra cost compared to India does not matter as more people will be able to use the facilities. Cost per person is about the same.

So much butt-hurt that Japan and BD have linked up to build a world class Metro and transport system for Dhaka by 2035.

 

[gslv mk3]

What the Indian fools here do not understand is that BD is a very densely populated country and so the extra cost compared to India does not matter as more people will be able to use the facilities

Lol, the only fools here is the gullible Bangladeshi population.

Your metro have the capability of just 30,000 per hour per direction. How is the cost per person same ?

So much butt-hurt that Japan and BD have linked up to build a world class Metro and transport system for Dhaka by 2035

Leave 2030, Delhi would have 500 km+ metro & 3 RRTS lines by 2030...