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"More"? What is "More"? What is "More" to add in Delhi metro that DMRC can't do? Please elaborate. Rest I am fine with whatever you opt for.

Japan is providing technology and funding for Dhaka metro which is also the case of DMRC. Are you dumb?

I label you a Jamati 'cause that's what best describes you. Coming from the 4th world, you're the one who's delusional, not me. Not only that, You're even more delusional to think that you've "burst anyone's bubble".

A community which does not even belong to the world (I mean martian) and who does not need latrine talking big? Should we create another category called 6th world for Indians?
 
A community which does not even belong to the world (I mean martian) and who does not need latrine talking big? Should we create another category called 6th world for Indians?


Oh God who is this vernac? Off to the vending machine, you.
 
Delhi's metro success a lesson for Australia

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Let's talk about something inspiring. So many good ideas in infrastructure never get built. This is about one that did: one of the great infrastructure achievements of our time, almost a miracle.

Delhi is the world's second-biggest city, behind Tokyo. The United Nations estimates that in mid-2010 it had 22 million people - the population of Australia - spread across four neighbouring states. Traffic congestion is immense. Its buses are slow, hot and crowded. Until recently, its only railways were the long-distance lines to the rest of India.

And then Delhi built a metro: a metro that, in the context of India, has become one of the wonders of the modern world.

Planning began in 1995. Construction started in 1998. The first trains ran in 2002. It now has six lines, 143 stations, and carries 2 million passengers a day. By 2021, when stage four is complete, it will be bigger than the London Underground, and is forecast to carry 6 million passengers a day.

As a rule, nothing in India's public sector works as intended. But the Delhi metro works: 99.97 per cent of trains arrive within one minute of schedule. They are clean, cool and safe. At peak hour, they come every 2½ minutes. It runs at a profit. Every stage has been completed on time, within budget. In India, in the modern world, that is a miracle.

How did Delhi do it? And what can Australia learn from this model of world's best practice?

I dislike the ''great men'' approach to history, but in this case, it's indisputable. Infrastructure projects in India are usually characterised by political interference, corruption, delays, cost overruns and inefficiency. The Delhi metro broke the mould because they appointed a quietly brilliant, incorruptible, inspiring team leader as director, and gave him freedom to run it as he chose.

Elattuvalapil Sreedharan was already 63 and a folk hero to the urban middle class when he was asked to build the Delhi metro. He had just built the Konkan railway connecting Mumbai to Goa with similar efficiency, a formidable assignment with 150 bridges and 93 tunnels through landslide-prone hills. Originally from Kerala, India's best-educated and least corrupt state, he had spent decades in the Indian railways, winning fame by restoring a cyclone-damaged bridge to Rameswaram, between India and Sri Lanka, in just 46 days when six months was allowed for the job.

Sreedharan agreed to take on the Delhi metro on one condition: no political interference. He hired a small, motivated staff, solely on merit, paid them well, and sent them overseas to study how the world's best metros worked. He insisted on developing expertise within the organisation, rather than relying on consultants.

Deadlines and budgets had to be realistic and achievable; but once set, they were not to be altered, save in compelling circumstances. Once a decision was made, it was final. If anything went wrong, there was no hunt for scapegoats, only for solutions. A colleague told Forbesmagazine that in 30 years of working together, he never heard Sreedharan shout at anyone.

There was no mercy, however, if the issue was corruption, so rife in India. Anyone caught was out immediately. Sreedharan ignored the rule book on competitive tenders to award tenders to firms he trusted - but if they failed to deliver on time, quality and budget, they, too, were out. Politicians used to pulling strings to get jobs or contracts for their allies found their strings were cut.

His emphasis was on speed and efficiency: on getting it right first time, then delivering on time, on budget, and with the required quality. Tenders were broken into smaller contracts rather than big ones, so the organisation never lost control. Contractors were paid most of their claim within 24 hours, and the rest a week later, the cash flow giving them an incentive to deliver. As Forbesnoted: ''It is based on trust, and the penalty for breaching it is high.''

So far the metro has cost just $2.5 billion; Indian construction workers are cheap. Most of the finance came as low-interest loans from Japan's aid agency. The national government and Delhi's state government each paid 15 per cent of the bill, and 10 per cent came from redeveloping areas around the new stations.

One might note that the one failure was the privately run line: the Airport Rail Link, run by billionaire Anil Ambani's Reliance Infrastructure. Last year, it had to shut for six months after safety concerns. Reliance also proved unreliable in Mumbai, where it is three years behind schedule building the first line of the Mumbai metro. Private ownership is no guarantee of competence.

Sreedharan retired at 79, and is back in Kerala where he effectively directs the construction of a smaller metro in Kochi, with Japanese and French aid money. Every Indian city now wants a metro. But Delhi's achievement is unique.

On current plans, in one generation, it will have built a metro system comparable to those of Paris, London and New York. We, who need yet cannot build, should learn from Asia's success stories.

Tim Colebatch is economics editor of The Age.




Its beyond your comprehension capabilities.

:lol: I know you'd start with rolling stock technology again.
 
Crossrail can be as good as Delhi Metro, says Ken

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Londoners should travel to Delhi if they want a preview of what Crossrail will be like, Ken Livingstone said.

The Mayor believes the Indian capital's modern underground system is the perfect model for the £16 billion high-speed line that is due to open in 2017.

Mr Livingstone and transport commissioner Peter Hendy were impressed when they toured the Delhi Metro this morning as part of their week-long visit to India.

The system, which carries 600,000 passengers a day - compared with four million on the Tube - boasts air-conditioned trains, spacious stations, smart-card ticketing, security scanners, armed guards, CCTV cameras, 100 per cent punctuality and some of the cheapest fares in the world.

Banks of TV screens on station platforms continually show a one-minute security video containing footage of the 7 July and 11 September terror attacks and the Madrid train bombings.

Fares range from six to 22 rupees, around 7p to 27p, with trains every four minutes at peak times.

Mr Livingstone said: "This is exactly the model we would want for Crossrail - much bigger, wider trains running on really smooth surfaces. This is what we will see in London when we open Crossrail in 10 years. It's just so much more comfortable."

He contrasted the speed of construction of the Delhi Metro with the 30 years it had taken to convince government of the need for Crossrail, which will link Heathrow with the City, Canary Wharf and beyond.

However he said it was unlikely such tight security could ever be introduced in London. "This is in a society where most people don't have mobile phones, where most people are not carrying a bag or a backpack," he said.

Delhi's first stations opened in December 2002 and a major expansion will be completed in time for the arrival of the Commonwealth Games in 2010.

Mr Hendy denied it was embarrassing that experts from London had to travel to a Third World country to see a 21st-century public transport system in operation.

He said: "One of the lessons is that when we are building a modern system we should build it for growth. The Victoria line was built very cheaply. If we look at the Victoria line stations, they're already full of people.

"Look at the spaciousness of this. They have four-coach trains. It's built for a doubling to eight. Crossrail will be built not only to carry the load we expect it to have in 2017 but actually for future expansion."

 
Japan is providing technology and funding for Dhaka metro which is also the case of DMRC. Are you dumb?

Instead of resorting to personal insult you should try to elaborate what "More" you are looking for that DMRC can't provide. Or just say that you don't want anything from your "Enemy" India and rest your case, because that is the real objection you guys have.
 
Most of the tech and train itself imported from different countries. Bangladesh can very easily can do that and most likely from Japan. So what the hell indians are marketing for? This is purely bakwas indians with begging bowl.
 
We think Indian expertise and technological excellence fits very well for Indians. But for Bangladesh (even for small projects) we opt for little more than that perhaps Japanese or Chinse or Germans. ;)

Yup, its good, German and Japs are at best in this tech.
 
Most of the tech and train itself imported from different countries. Bangladesh can very easily can do that and most likely from Japan. So what the hell indians are marketing for? This is purely bakwas indians with begging bowl.

Again substantiate the point-what most of the tech ?.No trains aren't imported anymore

With experience in building metre guage toy trains..I am sure Bangladesh can very easily can do that :rofl:

Read the first post in the thread..it was Bangladesh going around the world with a begging bowl :lol:
 
Most of the tech and train itself imported from different countries. Bangladesh can very easily can do that and most likely from Japan. So what the hell indians are marketing for? This is purely bakwas indians with begging bowl.

Beggars are not the choosers bro. You need heavy investment for this project or even soft loans. And definitely I can say it will be China in the end.
 
Again substantiate the point-what most of the tech ?.No trains aren't imported anymore

With experience in building metre guage toy trains..I am sure Bangladesh can very easily can do that :rofl:

Read the first post in the thread..it was Bangladesh going around the world with a begging bowl :lol:

& they still some BD members that how they will surpass India within 1-2 decades
I don't know weather to laugh or cry
 
Danish woman gang-raped in Indian capital Delhi

Police in the Indian capital Delhi are investigating the alleged gang rape of a Danish woman who lost her way near her city centre hotel.

The 51-year-old tourist was attacked by a group of men in the Paharganj area on Tuesday evening. Police say she was robbed and raped at knife point.

A German woman has also been raped in south India, Der Spiegel reports.

Scrutiny of sexual violence in India has grown since the 2012 gang rape and murder of a student on a Delhi bus.


The government tightened laws on sexual violence last year after widespread protests following the attack.

But violence and discrimination against women remain deeply entrenched in India's staunchly patriarchal society.

The Danish woman told police that she approached the group of men after losing her way back to her hotel near New Delhi Railway Station.

The men robbed her of her belongings and raped her, police spokesman Rajan Bhagat told the BBC.

"She reached her hotel and reported the incident to the manager who called in the police and the investigation is now under way," Mr Bhagat said.

The woman flew out of India on Wednesday morning, police say.

No arrests have been made yet, but police are questioning a number of men in connection with the attack.

The Danish woman is believed to have been travelling alone and had been in Delhi since Monday after visiting the Taj Mahal, the BBC's Andrew North in Delhi reports.

Police say she gave a detailed statement in the presence of the Danish ambassador before leaving the country, AFP news agency reports. There was no immediate comment from the Danish embassy in Delhi.

Paharganj, a busy backpacker district frequented by foreign tourists, is located in the heart of the Indian capital, not far from Connaught Place.

An 18-year-old German woman was reportedly raped by a man sharing her compartment on a train travelling from Mangalore to Chennai in southern India on Friday.

A man, described as a migrant worker from Bihar state, was arrested on Tuesday, Der Spiegel newspaper reported.

Last March a Swiss tourist was gang raped and her partner attacked by a group of men in Madhya Pradesh state. Six men were jailed for life for the attack in July.

Since the December 2012 Delhi gang rape, the nation has been shocked by a string of brutal rapes of Indian women.

They include a photojournalist raped in broad daylight in central Mumbai, a 21-year-old woman raped by two apparently unrelated groups of men on Christmas Eve in Pondicherry and a 16-year-old girl who died after being gang-raped twice and then set on fire in the eastern city of Calcutta.

Although cases involving foreigners continue to get far more attention in the media and from the police, Indian women who are raped are still far less likely to receive justice, our correspondent says.

Wrong thread. Read the topic before posting anything. :offpost:
 
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