Why Hindi-Urdu is One Language and Arabic is Several
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It's correct my friend. You can find this out yourself from impartial sources. Most of India has lost touch with Nastaliq after Urdu was labeled as a Muslim, Madrassah, Islamic extremist language. But before 1947, Nastaliq was predominantly used, & 1867 was the first time Devanagari was used in the Indian subcontinent for Urdu literary works, which resulted in the Hindi-Urdu controversy. After 1867, works started getting translated from the Nastaliq script into Devanagari, but even up till 1947, Nastaliq was the most predominantly script used in India.
Actually you are wrong, you should use words properly. Its "Nastaliq was the most predominantly script used for writing hindustani".
So you are saying Ghalib, Khusro, Iqbal, Bahadur Shah Zafar's works are in Hindustani? Then why can't the average Hindustani speaker understand them?
Urdu and Hindi are both descendants of the Prakrit language that was spoken in the upper Doab, north of Delhi. That Prakrit was in turn a direct descendant of Sanskrit. Sanskrit has given rise to many Prakrit variants, which evolved into languages like Punjabi, Sindhi, Nepali, Bengali, Assamese, Odiya, Marathi, Maithili, Braj Bhasha, Khadi Boli etc.
The only difference is that Urdu has absorbed many loan words from Persian, Arabic etc. Nevertheless all the verbs in Urdu remain of Sanskrit origin. In linguistics, verbs are considered the bedrock of a language.
The only difference is that Urdu has absorbed many loan words from Persian, Arabic etc. Nevertheless all the verbs in Urdu remain of Sanskrit origin. In linguistics, verbs are considered the bedrock of a language.
No i am just saying that your assertion that nastaliq is the predominant script in India is false.
Wrong, it was the predominant script till 1947. Your proof below:
The Tribune, Chandigarh, India - Opinions
For all the people that think Hindi is older than Urdu, can they provide any literary works or poetry written in Hindi in the last few hundred years? Ghalib, Iqbal, Khusro, Bahadur Shah Zafar & many others are Urdu poets, not Hindi or Hindustani; as an average Hindi/Hindustani speaker cannot understand them.
The simple conclusion of this Hindi-Urdu controversy is that, there was never a language called Hindi prior to 1867. There was only one language, with many forms such as Hindwi, Rekhta, & most common with present day Urdu today. Urdu formed when the Muslim invaders came into the Indian subcontinent, which resulted in the amalgamation of Persian, Arabic, Turkish with the Sanskrit spoken in India, resulting in Hindwi (closely resembling Rekhta Urdu, nothing like Hindi). Hindus started translating literary works written in Nastaliq into Devanagari script, resulting in Hindi. This resulted in the 1867 Hindi-Urdu controversy.
After 1947, Indians started making Hindi (Urdu written in Devanagari script) 'shudh' by Sanskritizing it, and removing the Arabic/Persian root words.
The simple conclusion of this Hindi-Urdu controversy is that, there was never a language called Hindi prior to 1867. There was only one language, with many forms such as Hindwi, Rekhta, & most common with present day Urdu today. Urdu formed when the Muslim invaders came into the Indian subcontinent, which resulted in the amalgamation of Persian, Arabic, Turkish with the Sanskrit spoken in India, resulting in Hindwi (closely resembling Rekhta Urdu, nothing like Hindi). Hindus started translating literary works written in Nastaliq into Devanagari script, resulting in Hindi. This resulted in the 1867 Hindi-Urdu controversy.
After 1947, Indians started making Hindi (Urdu written in Devanagari script) 'shudh' by Sanskritizing it, and removing the Arabic/Persian root words.
Yes, Its mentioned that nastaliq is predominant among Hindi-urdu speakers, but not anywhere in whole India.
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Most prominent newspapers before partition were in Bengali, Marathi, English, Tamil, Urdu/Hindi and Punjabi. Except Urdu/Hindi none of those used Nastaliq script. Not sure about Punjabi.
Nastaliq was predominant for Urdu/Hindi/Hindustani speakers, Devanagari was not prominent for Urdu/Hindi/Hindustani speakers, but it was predominant for Sanskrit, from a religious point of view for Hindus.
"Hindi" was already a very rich language in the 1500's. See for example the devotional poetry of Goswami Tulsidas - Ram Charitmanas or the Hanuman Chalisa. The earliest Hindi literature is from around 900AD. I put the word "Hindi" in quotes because the Prakrit variants of UP were known by names such as Maithili, Braj Bhasha, Khadi Boli etc. Urdu has exactly the same history, the only difference is that Urdu has absorbed many loan words from Persian, Arabic and Turkish.
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your given link claims
"Arabic and Persian languages merged with Hindi and a new language emerged — Urdu. About 4000 Arabic and Persian words got absorbed into 60,000 to 70,000 Hindi words and became a part of Hindi"
which is quite true.....
muslims when claimed seperate country (Pakistan) they wanted it to portray as true arab loyal country and started develop pakistan and its culture so that it can have language and culture separate and distinct from India....
but the truth is urdu is artificial language
when muslims came from the west they had their own script and language... slowly by the influence of the indigenous language(hindi) a new language came into being which is know as URDU...
There are many poets like kabir, tulsidas who has written extensive literature in Hindi.
Those were not 'Hindi', those were in Sanskrit & its other derivants. However, the Urdu used by Khusro & other poets closely resembles today's Rekhta Urdu spoken in Pakistan today.
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