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Why do Indians dislike Pakistani attachment to Muhammad Bin Qasim?

Do you identify with Muhammad bin Qasim or Raja Dahir?


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Most muslims of India including where Pakistan was put in 1947 were converted to islam by succession of invaders. But we can safely conclude that most such converted people are long gone - current day muslims were born into islamic homes, so there is no sense in attributing any Hindu stuff to them.

Now many of them don't like to admit their ancestry because Indians start making fun of them which indians should stop. So they start making up wild motivations such as
https://defence.pk/threads/why-do-indians-dislike-pakistani-attachment-to-muhammad-bin-qasim.427062/page-4#post-8437303

why make them ashamed of their own ancestry? they did not have any role in the conversion. It was the barbaric invaders who put the sword to their neck and thus brought infamy to islam. It is those invaders that should ashamed, not the muslims of Indian subcontinent who were mere victims
 
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Most muslims of India including where Pakistan was put in 1947 were converted to islam by succession of invaders. But we can safely conclude that most such converted people are long gone - current day muslims were born into islamic homes, so there is no sense in attributing any Hindu stuff to them.

Now many of them don't like to admit their ancestry because Indians start making fun of them which indians should stop. So they start making up wild motivations such as
https://defence.pk/threads/why-do-indians-dislike-pakistani-attachment-to-muhammad-bin-qasim.427062/page-4#post-8437303

why make them ashamed of their own ancestry? they did not have any role in the conversion. It was the barbaric invaders who put the sword to their neck and thus brought infamy to islam. It is those invaders that should ashamed, not the muslims of Indian subcontinent who were mere victims


What most hindus refuse to accept

That muslims see idol worship and paganism as beneath contempt and rhe idea of humans worshipping idols is abhorrent


Islam is a world wide faith which inspired people from Africa to Europe to South East Asia to Russia, it enlightened rhem and cut their beliefs in the old mumbo jumbo superstition and worship of idols and obscenities

People in the sub continent abandoned Hinduism because it was not worthy of humanity, it was not worthy of us

Our ancestors mercifully chose the path of the one God like multi millions across the world have

This was part of rhe 1000 years of humiliation forced upon the hindus, todays hindus who love fake stories and revisionist history refuse to accept that so many former hindus abandoned hinduism for a superior world wide faith out of choice not compulsion
 
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As we are Muslim first we are of course going to identify with Bin Qasim. But many Indians are still confused as to how we celebrate his victory even though our ancestors were 'Hindus'.

Its not just Pakistanis Indians have this problem with. I remember a Kashmiri Facebook page where Kashmiris celebrated Muhammad Bin Qasim as their hero and Indians were outraged.

So make your choice. Who is your hero?

Why should you concern about Indians opinion?
If you believe in Qasim so be it .If Indians hate them it is their choice .
 
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NO Sir! the two nation theory is a live, because the Bengali were not convert in Hinduism again in 1971 but they made a separate country for their selves.The two nation theory was made for Hindu nation and Muslim nation, Not for Indian nation and Pakistani nation.

It was not that you can't live with hindus, but it was that you wanted separate nation to practice your religion and not come under hindu majority influence and culture. This insulation to protect your religion and culture is desired by your people and there is nothing wrong in that. Calling it two nation theory was a political motivation and a rallying cry to unify your people. In that sense it was brilliant move, but to extend it any further to unify your nation now and you fall flat because it rests on a shaky foundation. Sooner you abandon it, it is better.
 
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What most hindus refuse to accept

That muslims see idol worship and paganism as beneath contempt and rhe idea of humans worshipping idols is abhorrent


Islam is a world wide faith which inspired people from Africa to Europe to South East Asia to Russia, it enlightened rhem and cut their beliefs in the old mumbo jumbo superstition and worship of idols and obscenities

People in the sub continent abandoned Hinduism because it was not worthy of humanity, it was not worthy of us

Our ancestors mercifully chose the path of the one God like multi millions across the world have

This was part of rhe 1000 years of humiliation forced upon the hindus, todays hindus who love fake stories and revisionist history refuse to accept that so many former hindus abandoned hinduism for a superior world wide faith out of choice not compulsion

Can you blame them? ofcourse they don't accept this nonsense because it is just a bunch of foaming invective born of impotent anger. Also known as severe lack of identity manifesting as hatred and rage.

You have actually proven what I said about guys like you. This is exactly why I advise Indians to stop even the perception of making fun of muslims
 
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No offence but it seems like a ridiculous question really-Indian hindus have every right to dislike it he came as an invader and conquered their lands.They're not muslims why would they support an arab victory over their own people ? obviously don't care about spread of islam like pakistanis do.It's absolutely as they should do and any native population would resist a foreign invader .
It's like asking native americans why they dislike white americans attachment to columbus or pilgrim settlers.
btw I voted Raja Dahir.
 
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the so called attachment to MBQ only exisit in the newer generation of Pakistani punjabis..thanks to doctor history coming right out of raiwind madrasas...and the second group of people to love MBQ are urdu speaking mohajirs..who has no roots and no clue about the history of the region..any sane and rationa man would see MBQ as a invader who came to loot and plunder..why would somebody have an appreciation for such man???

Turning looters and plunderers into hero's is what we are seeing daily in Pakistan today...these so called Talibans are simply emulating the ways of MBQ, Mehmud Ghazni and Ghauri...why dont we allocate one more spot for the great mujahid Osama Binladen as well?
 
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@Apprentice In case you suffer from amnesia or missed your history lesson "Two Nation Theory" died in 1971. Now it is "Three Nation Theory".

Technically, it didn't. While Bangladesh sought independence from Pakistan, Bangladesh is still Muslim nation and proud be one. Two nations theory is based on the religion grounds, and precisely why Pakistan was born. If Bangladesh became part of Indian, then it will question the narrative of "Two Nation Theory". Bangladesh is still Muslim independence nation which is the whole point fazed Indians technically. :D
 
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What most hindus refuse to accept

That muslims see idol worship and paganism as beneath contempt and rhe idea of humans worshipping idols is abhorrent


Islam is a world wide faith which inspired people from Africa to Europe to South East Asia to Russia, it enlightened rhem and cut their beliefs in the old mumbo jumbo superstition and worship of idols and obscenities

People in the sub continent abandoned Hinduism because it was not worthy of humanity, it was not worthy of us

Our ancestors mercifully chose the path of the one God like multi millions across the world have

This was part of rhe 1000 years of humiliation forced upon the hindus, todays hindus who love fake stories and revisionist history refuse to accept that so many former hindus abandoned hinduism for a superior world wide faith out of choice not compulsion
The only people who were humiliated for 1000 years were the ancestors of Pakistanis who were conquered, subjugated and ruled for 1000 years by Arabs, Turks and Mongols.
 
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The only people who were humiliated for 1000 years were the ancestors of Pakistanis who were conquered, subjugated and ruled for 1000 years by Arabs, Turks and Mongols.
Yes totally; brave Indians were never conquered by Muslims; it was only Pakistan was that conquered. Modern day India was never conquered by Arabs, Turks and Mongols. They remained unscratched.

These maps are all fake anti-Indian/Hindu propaganda

MughalEmpire1700.svg

Delhi_History_Map.png
 
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Yes totally; brave Indians were never conquered by Muslims; it was only Pakistan was that conquered. Modern day India was never conquered by Arabs, Turks and Mongols. They remained unscratched.

These maps are all fake anti-Indian/Hindu propaganda

MughalEmpire1700.svg

Delhi_History_Map.png
Dont be ridiculous. The Mughal and Delhi Sultanate rule over the major part of India only lasted for 30 years as the Delhi Sultanate was defeated by the Vijayanagar Empire, the Rajputs and the eastern Ganga Dynasty and the Mughals were defeated by the Maratha Empire. On the other hand the ancestors of Pakistanis were ruled for 1000 years by Arabs, Turks and Mongols.
 
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Dont be ridiculous. The Mughal and Delhi Sultanate rule over the major part of India only lasted for 30 years as the Delhi Sultanate was defeated by the Vijayanagar Empire, the Rajputs and the eastern Ganga Dynasty and the Mughals were defeated by the Maratha Empire. On the other hand the ancestors of Pakistanis were ruled for 1000 years by Arabs, Turks and Mongols.
Stop with the BS kid; your capital itself was ruled for 600 years by the Mughals.
 
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Stop with the BS kid; your capital itself was ruled for 600 years by the Mughals.
Again wrong. Delhi was ruled for 200 years by the Mughals until they were defeated by the Maratha Empire in the early 18th century.
 
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Both. It's like asking the British "who is your hero? William the Conqueror or Harold at Battle of Hastings. Both played a role in making of British history. Ditto MB-Qasim and R-Dahir.
Good selection of words, yes both played the part in history but it means who you call the hero? which means who is fighting for the correct reasons.
 
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Again wrong. Delhi was ruled for 200 years by the Mughals until they were defeated by the Maratha Empire in the early 18th century.
I meant by Muslims; still 30 years and 200 years is a huge difference. Muslims ruled Delhi for over 600 years.
 
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