While raising Indus, India must not forget China

[hussain0216]

But he didn't signed to join India at first either. So the point of him being Hindu and Pakistan being a Muslim country comes later.
What changed his decision of Kashmir being an Independent state? What forced him to join India?

Him being a hindu was the basic reason

The desires of a muslim majority state were disregarded

The rest of Pakistan got partition and the Kashmiris got occupation

 

[unbiasedopinion]

Nuclear is not a weapon on its own...it is a warhead...the merger of missile as delivery platform and nuclear warhead creates the so called nuclear weapon

What about nuclear bombs? Little boy? Was that a warhead with missile?
I understand the different delivery system, but i am trying to understand what else apart from nuclear? I heard only about nuclear bombs/missiles when ever we talk about anything from pakistan, hence made me wonder, what else can you use to vaporize Indian city as pointed out by the poster whom i responded.

 

[CorporateAffairs]

To all Pak brothers here, first stop hand holding of China in each and issue.
You can, unless you want to be their next province.

 

[A_Poster]

NEW DELHI: Calls for the abrogation of the 50-year-old Indus Water Treaty (IWT) may be a naive and irrational reaction given that the treaty has many stakeholders besides India and Pakistan and any unilateral tinkering could have implications to water sharing arrangement with China, Nepal and Bangladesh too.

Delhi has proposed a similar water sharing pact with China where the northern neighbour is the upper riparian state with and India the lower riparian state.
The biggest impediment for scrapping IWT is that India -- a lower riparian state wants to conclude water sharing pact with China - therefore cannot be viewed as acting in a unilateral fashion against lower riparian state Pakistan, indicated sources familiar with the matter.

The Ministry of External Affairs (MEA) publicly stated that IWT cannot be "one-sided affair" in the aftermath of the Uri attack. Policy makers in South Block are not enthusiastic about scrapping the treaty that has stood the test of time including wars of 1965, 1971 and the 1999 Kargil standoff besides the Kashmir insurgency since 1990.

China maintains an advantageous position as the upstream riparian of the Brahmaputra. It can, theoretically, choose to withhold hydrological information and can build infrastructure to intentionally prevent water from flowing downstream. Fear has been created in India because of previous tendencies where the Chinese have been unwilling to provide details of its hydro-projects, and when it did, gave contradictory information.

Beijing and New Delhi signed a Memorandum of Understanding (MoU) on 'Strengthening Cooperation on Trans-Border Rivers' in 2013, recognising that trans-boundary rivers are an important asset to the development of all riparian regions. Both countries agreed to strengthen communication and strategic trust. China agreed to provide more hydrological information to India at the start of the flood season. In 2015 India and China also renewed MoU for five years of hydrological information of Sutlej or Langqen Zangbo.

As lower riparian countries India and Bangladesh rely on the Brahmaputra for water, agriculture and livelihoods. Upstream, China holds an important strategic advantage over the river's flow. Chinese dam-building and water division plans along the Yarlung Zangbo (as the Brahmaputra in called in China) is a source of tension between the two neighbours, sources pointed out.

India is a lower-riparian state with regard to rivers flowing from Nepal (an upper riparian state) and has successful water sharing arrangement with Bangladesh (both share more than 50 rivers). The proposed Teesta Water-Sharing Pact, which has been a point of discord between Bangladesh and India, is yet to be concluded.

The other apprehension from abrogation of IWT is that it might help strength of Lashkar-e-Taebbya (LeT). Any abrogation of the treaty will impact Punjab, Pakistan's most prosperous province, strengthening the LeT. JuD Chief Hafiz Saeed in the past has accused India of withholding water to Pakistan and scrapping of IWT will give him a perfect opportunity to step up recruitment. Pakistan's Punjab is LeT's biggest support base.

Further, as the World Bank brokered IWT in 1960, there is an involvement of the third party and it is difficult to abrogate the treaty unilaterally by any of the three parties. India is negotiating other river project treaties with Pakistan with IWT as the basis. In the past India has got green signal for Baglihar Dam in J&K. Delhi has also won from Hague Court rights for diverting a minimum amount of water for power generation under Kishanganga Project. All these flow from successful implementation of IWT by all signatories, experts noted.

It may be recalled that since the ratification of the treaty in 1960, India and Pakistan have not engaged in any water wars. Most disagreements and disputes have been settled via legal procedures within the framework of the treaty. The treaty is considered to be one of the most successful water sharing endeavours in the world even though analysts acknowledge the need to update certain technical specifications and expand the scope of the document to include climate change.

http://economictimes.indiatimes.com...rget-china/articleshow/54490210.cms?prtpage=1

You and other Pakistani should take a look at hydrology data before making fools of yourself (as I am confident that many would already had on this thread), based on rambling of some journalist.


If you are too lazy or plain incompetent to find that data yourself, here is link to IUCN report which dissect Brahmaputra river in every possible way. Hydrology data is on page 30.

https://www.iucn.org/sites/dev/files/import/downloads/iucn_research_brahmaputra_basin.pdf

Here is information in graphical form:

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Even after this, you find yourself incapable of comprehending data as presented to you: Brahmaputra ,when in enters India, just after Tesla Dzong has annual average discharge is of around 500 Cumecs, while when Brahmaputra leaves Guwhati (just midway, not the mouth), its annual average discharge is around 20,000 Cumecs. That is the insignificance of Chinese water to Brahmaputra.

 

[Taimoor Khan]

Modi is a goon no doubt but the people around him, giving him advise are making him look like a complete arse.

 

[unbiasedopinion]

Yes what about bombing children in schools, patients in hospitals, people at funerals, worshipers in Mosques and Churches? Was that an act of honor? Which your sponsored Mkuti Bahini, LTTE, BLA, TTP have been doing?

Do you people ever have any shame?

no wonder your army had done it, they are known for killing their own people in bangladesh.. after all pakistan mind;s work great with conspiracy theories.

I am not very fond of war. In fact I despise it, but sometimes war is necessary to bring down high flying, delusional, brainwashed group of criminals. We too control Kashmir, a far peaceful, progressive Kashmir. A Kashmir where people aren't killed, raped, and blinded. A Kashmir which doesn't fight for independence; for they already are independent. Have you forgotten the blasts in Pakistan? Have you forgot the 150 children? We haven't. India is all talk, no walk. Instead of buying 36 jets for $8.5b, how about you buy some balls.

You controlled east pakistan too couple of decades back. They were also delusioned about their love towards west pakistan, till they got to know the reality of punjabi elite. Baluchistan is realizing that reality.Soon your other side of Kashmir will realize it too..
Anyways, I dont want to derail the thread by going offtopic, pl open another thread or better pick up any existing thread on the same, i will respond there.

But he didn't signed to join India at first either. So the point of him being Hindu and Pakistan being a Muslim country comes later.
What changed his decision of Kashmir being an Independent state? What forced him to join India?

Because he was hindu and he was not solid with his iman and that is why he changed his stand...that is the reply you will hear probably from members of other side. Come on you really looking for logic?

You and other Pakistani should take a look at hydrology data before making fools of yourself (as I am confident that many would already had on this thread), based on rambling of some journalist.


If you are too lazy or plain incompetent to find that data yourself, here is link to IUCN report which dissect Brahmaputra river in every possible way. Hydrology data is on page 30.

https://www.iucn.org/sites/dev/files/import/downloads/iucn_research_brahmaputra_basin.pdf

Here is information in graphical form:

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Even after this, you find yourself incapable of comprehending data as presented to you: Brahmaputra ,when in enters India, just after Tesla Dzong has annual average discharge is of around 500 Cumecs, while when Brahmaputra leaves Guwhati (just midway, not the mouth), its annual average discharge is around 20,000 Cumecs. That is the insignificance of Chinese water to Brahmaputra.

many pakistani posters here post without reading any scientific research or study. When countered with scientific data they claim them to be hoax and then bring islam, religion, atomic bomb, nuclear war, vaporizing india bla bla...

 

[coffee_cup]

no wonder your army had done it, they are known for killing their own people in bangladesh.. after all pakistan mind;s work great with conspiracy theories.

Right, our army killed hundreds of thousands of innocent Sri Lankan or Pakistani school children, nurses, doctors, nuns, funeral attendants, worshipers...!?!

Only a delusional Indian can talk and believe in such shyt!


And then they want to play victim card before us. No wonder no one wants to believe in false flags like Mumbai, Samjhota Express, Maelgaeon, Pathankot, Uri etc

 

[unbiasedopinion]

Right, our army killed hundreds of thousands of innocent Sri Lankan or Pakistani school children, nurses, doctors, nuns, funeral attendants, worshipers...!?!

Only a delusional Indian can talk and believe in such shyt!


And then they want to play victim card before us. No wonder no one wants to believe in false flags like Mumbai, Samjhota Express, Maelgaeon, Pathankot, Uri etc

yes yes, all the drones bombing you guys are done by india only..happy now..now go and play outside, as you do not understand the rules of not derailing the threads by going offtopic..i already told you to start discussion in relevant thread if you want to talk on these issues but you keep on trolling here.

 

[coffee_cup]

yes yes, all the drones bombing you guys are done by india only..happy now..now go and play outside, as you do not understand the rules of not derailing the threads by going offtopic..i already told you to start discussion in relevant thread if you want to talk on these issues but you keep on trolling here.

India has done a great blunder in unleashing the monster of suicide bombings to the region by training LTTE terrorists. Who have killed thousands of innocent civilians. And even eating up their own PM.

This Frankenstein is now destroying the whole region, even the world.

Oh Indians, what have you done!

We wouldnt be at this point today discussing all this IWT etc had it not been for Indian sponsored terrorism in the region!

 

[somebozo]

Modi is a goon no doubt but the people around him, giving him advise are making him look like a complete arse.

He is just a low level gujrati mafia mob

Even after this, you find yourself incapable of comprehending data as presented to you: Brahmaputra ,when in enters India, just after Tesla Dzong has annual average discharge is of around 500 Cumecs, while when Brahmaputra leaves Guwhati (just midway, not the mouth), its annual average discharge is around 20,000 Cumecs. That is the insignificance of Chinese water to Brahmaputra.

Fine then...why India asking water treaty with China...definitely China somewhere somehow holds a leverage...need more time to research this

 

[A_Poster]

Fine then...why India asking water treaty with China...definitely China somewhere somehow holds a leverage...need more time to research this

India is only carrying forward time honoured tradition of diplomacy by crying foul. By raising issue of dams on Brahmaputra or CPEC passing through Giligit-Baluchistan ,which India considers its own territory, India gets a justification of doing same in SCS.

These are age old pressurizing tactics. Truth is there in hydrology data for Brahmaputra which points to insignificance of discharge from barren Tibet plateau. I have seen pictures of Brahmaputra flowing through Tibet. At some points it is just inches deep and you could cross it without getting your ankles wet.

Diplomacy is 90% mind game and 10% content.

 

[JOEY TRIBIANI]

What if he builds a canal to divert the water ?

Would love to see a biological warfare .
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You think hum piyasay marey gay or tum aish karo gay .

 

[Śakra]

Modi will build a dam in fifteen years, we will blow them up in half an hour. You stop our water, we will be bombing the living shit out of New Delhi.

And that torrent of water will kill more people in pakistan than any of India's nukes could. Please be rational, blowing up a dam is the worst thing you can do.

 

[VivasvatManu]

Would love to see a biological warfare .
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You think hum piyasay marey gay or tum aish karo gay .

LOL.... did you know Indian sewage is regularly dumped into the Indus river ? did you know that the water you drink contains our piss and $hit ? From millions of Indians.

That is the only biological warfare you can possibly conceive. OTOH did you know India has one of the largest pharmaceutical companies in the world ? So is more likely to have the means to conduct biological or chemical warfare ? India or pakistan ?

Also did you know both biological and chemical warfare is banned by global treaty ? Do you know which country has NOT signed the global treaty and have a stockpile ready ? BHUTAN ... why do you think that is ?

 

[itachii]

Tell me were tears streaming down your eyes as you wrote this

Son, you occupied Kashmir a muslim majority state

The rest is history of YOUR making

You took the peace of south asia with your greed and want to blame Pakistan for not taking it

If you are so much in love with the muslims of kashmir, then open your gates and take them in. Kashmir is going to be part of India until sun raises in the east . coming to the muslim majority thing wait for few more yrs, as Indian economy starts growing the demography of kashmir will start changing too..