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django said:
When you have leader such as Benazir Bhutto!
@Zibago @PakSword @BHarwana @war&peace @Maarkhoor
Rumours are all those Khalistani freedom fighters endured medieval torture under RAW supervision
https://twitter.com/x/status/1068540267874197505
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Well the traitor is, God willing, burning in hell..

django said:
Especially her father, he did more damage to Pakistan than anyone and I mean anyone.Kudos bhai
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Mate, ZAB did a few things bad but he did a lot of good things as well. First of all, he was a thorough patriot and sincere guy and he is the founder of Pakistan's military nuclear program and there are no two opinions about it. He was an excellent foreign minister and established relations with China benefits of which we are reaping to date. He formed independent foreign policy, gave us 73's constitution, and did a lot of other good stuff. He main failure was the nationalisation which he did without doing proper homework. I don't doubt his intentions or sincerity but he just did not do a complete homework. Some people idiots dishonestly try to attribute separation of east Pakistan to him but it was none of his fault.. the thing had been building for at least two decades and Ayyub Khan played his role in that.. Bengali people were neglected by the establishment in the west wing.. and that was exploited by our erstwhile enemy.

A lot of bad things happening in the country can be traced to Zia-ul-Haq, BB, NS and Musharraf.
 
war&peace said:
Mate, ZAB did a few things bad but he did a lot of good things as well. First of all, he was a thorough patriot and sincere guy and he is the founder of Pakistan's military nuclear program and there are no two opinions about it. He was an excellent foreign minister and established relations with China benefits of which we are reaping to date. He formed independent foreign policy, gave us 73's constitution, and did a lot of other good stuff. He main failure was the nationalisation which he did without doing proper homework. I don't doubt his intentions or sincerity but he just did not do a complete homework. Some people idiots dishonestly try to attribute separation of east Pakistan to him but it was none of his fault.. the thing had been building for at least two decades and Ayyub Khan played his role in that.. Bengali people were neglected by the establishment in the west wing.. and that was exploited by our erstwhile enemy.

A lot of bad things happening in the country can be traced to Zia-ul-Haq, BB, NS and Musharraf.
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Sir let us agree to disagree on this one.Kudos
 
MastanKhan said:
Hi,

The 2nd world war was won on the western front by the air force---smashed the german industrial complex---.

I knew a german family that lived thru that bombing---Dresden was just an example---the USAF was dominating the skies and would have obliterated any or all german cities---.

How about the 1st gulf war---.

More advanced a nation is---the more it depends on its industrial complex bigger and massive the destruction would be---.

The sooner they would lay their arms down---.

Now if you compare it to Afghanistan---that is a different story---.
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I disagree...I don't mean to play down the importance of the Air Force. In today's world any nation without a potent air force to defend its skies would be at the mercy of its enemy with a capable air force.

However the reason why Germany lost in WWII had a lot of factors and losing air superiority was way down on the list. Among the reasons that played the biggest role are
1) Tactical/strategical blunder of starting a second front with USSR(underestimating it and expecting a quick victory)...which effectively meant splitting of forces, materials, creating another supply chain, etc.
2) The sheer number of countries(with their own economies, industrial might, number of troops/tanks/etc.) that Germany was facing. Though Germany was marvelously at the forefront of about everything latest and greatest...it's just way too hard to fight so many different countries alone and come out on top.
3) Due to the second reason above...the attrition rate was just too much for Germany in terms of troops and equipment. Germany's population and industrial output couldn't replace the soldiers and equipment at the rate at which it was losing it.
4) Hitler's insistence on quality vs quantity...Germany went through so many iterative upgrades of its tanks, missiles, aircrafts instead of mass producing a tried and true design. This condition of being in somewhat of an eternal R&D really proved disadvantageous in comparison to USSR's approach of overwhelming Germany with sheer numbers. German tanks were much superior to Russian tanks but Russia made them in such a quantity that they could afford to lose more tanks and still have an advantage. Russians employed simpler techniques to deal with issues like for example the pins in the tracks of Russian tanks were prone to get loose and pop out...they simply had their troops carry hammers so they would hammer the pins back in every now and then. This kind of simpler approach was also used by Beatrice Shilling who employed an RAE restrictor to solve the engine stall problem for RAF fighters(during negative G maneuvers)...so that they could continue to use their current fighters with just a minor upgrade that could be achieved quickly.

For point 1...if Germany hadn't started a second front, it wouldn't have suffered all the casualties it suffered on the eastern front. It wouldn't have had its resources and troop strength bogged down on the eastern front and could concentrate all its might on the western front. Since France fell quickly, Germany could've focused more on its Navy/Air Force to gain supremacy on British Air Force and Navy...which would've enabled it to mount an amphibious attack on Britain and end the stalemate there before US even had a chance to enter with full force. Even if Germany would've still lost in this scenario, it would've taken much longer for the Allies to defeat Germany.

Point 2, 3, and 4 all tie together. The superior quality of German equipment just could not match the quantity of combined allied equipment(tanks, aircrafts, etc). Germany also hampered itself by not going for mass quantity(relatively speaking when compared to Russian approach) and instead kept trying to one up the enemies with quality. This further made it impossible to keep up with the attrition Germany was facing.
 
war&peace said:
I think D5400 is a great value for money especially for enthusiast
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Yup.. most likely will go for this and lens i will now look for 16-300 as a strong case have been made in its favor over 18-140mm (that i was originally looking to go with)

VCheng said:
Nope. I respect your right to spend your money as you wish. I am only happy to help whomever I can with my few remaining and rapidly dying brain cells. :D
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Was just kidding. Will surely listen to what you said, preferable going for 16-300 now. I do not know much about and wont be able to tell the difference myself. That is why i asked you guys here!!
 
Arsalan said:
Yup.. most likely will go for this and lens i will now look for 16-300 as a strong case have been made in its favor over 18-140mm (that i was originally looking to go with)
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It is not the sharpest glass around but a great value and versatile since you will need only one lens to cover whole trip. While, I have to carry an extra bag full of lenses for a serious photography trip which can be tiring at times.
 

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