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[Well.wisher]

pakistani women has brutalized me all my life and i in turn have brutalize pakistani women all my life. but now i intend to get out and enjoy life and see the world while leaving her in the pit in misery.
and btw **** was the single greatest help. so much so that ive reprogrammed the brains of my mother and sister (my chief nemesis) to accept pornography. such a good friend belongs in the TV lounge not in a locked bedroom.

I see..
Else ?

 

[Wolfhunter]

@Path-Finder @Blue Marlin @Kaptaan @waz @Wolfhunter @Sher Shah Awan

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Hahahah xD

 

[Mugwop]

Anyone here listens to Audiobooks while jogging?

 

[El Sidd]

Anyone here listens to Audiobooks while jogging?

I think jogging is haram in Pakistan

 

[padamchen]

Ro lia? Ya ubi kuch matam baki hy?

Within few years of our revolution ........ we simultaneously took on to teach human rights lesson to two of the super powers and tyrannies of that time.

You can present any and many excuses ....... but hey lets not give the credit and keep crying, crying for the empire that will never be rebuilt.

We didn't kill your king ......... it was common peasant Persian who killed him. Have you ever thought about that? Why a Persian farmer killed a Persian king (who was supposed to be a son of God for him)?

@I.R.A

Lol .... matam!!!

You cannot help yourself can you?

For all your elevated philosophy and ideation (which I enjoy), I've seen how you speak to (not with) Iranians. So ... (your oh so cute usage of the word "zombie" barely disguises the contempt you hold them in. Though I do not "yet" know if you extend the same cross racially to all Shias ... ).

And you call me an Arabophobe ...

On the rest of your post, minus the obvious Arab brainwashed narrative, let me say this, in addition to my earlier post about the Arabs catching the Persians finally on the back foot, and commendably driving home the advantage through their military campaigns.

Muhammad and his top guys were really good tacticians. World wise. Both in politics as well as in military campaigns and battle craft.

That does not take away from the fact that had they truly come up against ANY other older Persian dynasty or half powerful king (forget the really big names among the world beating and conquering emperors) they would have been defeated and crushed really badly.

Yazdegerd was a kid. Both as a king and a warrior, as well as in age.

Truth be told, the Sasanians were already in bad shape before Qadisiyah — that might help explain why Yarmouk only shrunk the Byzantine Empire, while Qadisiyah ended the Persian Empire — owing to their defeat by the Byzantines in the war fought between the two powers between 602 and 628. That war ended after the Sasanian ruler Khosrow II was overthrown by his son, Kavadh II. Kavadh died after only a few months, the victim of some kind of plague outbreak, and the resulting succession crisis touched off a civil war that, along with the plague itself, which seems to have killed a massive number of people, further weakened the already battered empire.

That civil war finally ended when the 8 year old grandson of Khosrow II, Yazdegerd III (d. 651), was crowned in 632, but he was too young to rule in his own right and so the two nobles who saw to his enthronement, Rostam Farrokhzad and Piruz Khosrow, held the real power in the empire.

Khalid b. al-Walid’s 633 campaign in Iraq (Mohammad Adil | Wikimedia)

Meanwhile, the end of the Ridda Wars in 633 meant that caliphate had already grown to encompass all of the Arabian peninsula, so in April, with nowhere to go but north, then-Caliph Abu Bakr sent an army under his most capable general, Khalid b. al-Walid (d. 642), to conquer Iraq.

Khalid had dramatic success, defeating the Persians in a series of battles that, by the end of the year, left him and his forces in control of virtually every part of Iraq outside of the Persian capital, Ctesiphon, just southeast of where Baghdad is today. After the Battle of Firaz, in December, Abu Bakr ordered Khalid to go to Syria to assume command of the much less successful invasion of that Byzantine province, so the Persians were off the hook for a short time. In fact, as 634 wore on, the Persians began to take back some of their lost territory and defeated the Arabs in a handful of battles–though only one, the Battle of the Bridge in November, near Kufa, could be called a major victory.​

In 635, Yazdegerd and the Byzantine Emperor Heraclius hatched a scheme to put down this upstart Arab incursion once and for all: a union of the two great empires sealed with a marriage between Yazdegerd and Heraclius’s daughter (which would, conveniently for the Byzantines, leave Heraclius in the dominant position as Yazdegerd’s father in-law). Both emperors planned to amass large armies to attack the Arabs simultaneously in both Syria and Iraq. The Arabs, who didn’t have enough men to sustain two large-scale offensives and were moving troops between Iraq and Syria as threats dictated, surely wouldn’t be able to handle major counter-offensives on both fronts at the same time.

Well, they didn’t have to find out, because Heraclius launched his offensive in May 636, before Yazdegerd was ready to move. Umar b. al-Khattab, who was now caliph, helped gum up the works by sticking to Muhammad’s war-making precepts. He sent reinforcements to bolster his army in Syria while also sending a man named Saʿd ibn Abi Waqqas with a few thousand troops to Iraq, where he camped near the town of Qadisiyah, near Kufa, in July .... and simply waited it out, as a decoy, buying time! Saʿd’s job was to engage Yazdegerd in diplomacy, to offer the Persians the chance to avoid battle either by converting to the new (and still nebulous) Islamic faith, or agreeing to pay the poll tax required of non-Muslims. This was a requirement that had been imposed on the Arab armies by Muhammad, who always offered his foes the chance to surrender before battle. But a nice side benefit of this policy for Umar, with his armies stretched thin between Syria and Iraq, was that it may have bought his army time to focus on Syria without having to worry about defending Iraq.

Yazdegerd prepared his army, under the command of Rostam Farrokhzad, and ordered it to march out to meet the Arabs. But, sure enough, he just left it sitting there until after the Arabs had won at Yarmouk and could turn their full attention to Iraq. Umar quickly ordered his commanders in Syria to dispatch men to join the army in Iraq, and they sent a force of 5000 now quite seasoned soldiers to the east. Even with those reinforcements, the Arabs were vastly outnumbered, with somewhere around 30,000-35,000 men against a Persian army that may have been as large as 100,000 (though it was probably somewhere between that figure and lower estimates of 50,000). Some sources put the Persian army as large as 200,000+, but that seems extraordinarily excessive (though this was an army raised in desperate self-defense by a very large empire, fighting on its home turf, so if any late antique army was ever going to be that large, it would’ve been this one).

Arab expansion under Muhammad and the Rashidun caliphs (through 661); look closely at Iraq and you’ll see Qadisiyah

The two armies camped opposite each other for months while talks went on and Umar bought time for his army in Syria to defeat the Byzantines. Later Arab accounts spend as much time recounting these talks as they do on the battle itself, but the accounts can’t be considered accurate portrayals of real events. Many of them were written much later than the events themselves, and even the ones that were written within a relatively short time after those events include details, like accounts of deliberations within the Persian court featuring full dialogue, that suggest those authors were taking at least a bit of license with their subject. You read about ragged-looking Arab soldiers being brought to the immaculate, wealthy Persian court, where the Persians attempt to dazzle them with their vast riches to no effect, while the Persians are themselves dazzled by the fighting prowess and/or innate character of the Arab/Muslim warriors. These are obviously stories rather than histories. You see some of the same tropes about the decadent Sasanians as you might find in an ancient Greek account of the decadent Achaemenids, or (interestingly) as you might later about the decadent Caliphal court in accounts of the Mongol conquest of Baghdad in 1258. They are valuable not as accounts of the actual negotiations between the Arabs and Persians, but as accounts of how the Arab conquerors and their descendants viewed the Persian Empire. (* and this my dear friend I is where you get your information from primarily, having read you now for more than a few years .... )

Finally, on November 16, the fighting started. As with the accounts of the Persian-Arab negotiations, we don’t really know very much about the battle because most of what was written about it was written much later and in an episodic, kind of myth-building way (lots of champion-vs-champion fighting, for example). It would be like extrapolating details about the Trojan War, which probably was a real thing that really happened, from reading the Iliad, which is a chronicle of heroic legends about mythic figures and likely was never intended to accurately describe real events. You can get a sense of the contours of the battle, but not the gory details.

What is told is that it was a four-day affair, and a pretty brutal one, as neither side could really get an edge. The Arabs focused on sidelining and eventually eliminating the Persian war elephants, which they finally did, sadly at great cost to the elephants (and to the men who got trampled as the hacked-up animals fled). On the second day, the reinforcements from Syria finally arrived–in a continuous stream of small units meant to make it look like there were more of them than there really were in order to demoralize the Persians–but this was not enough to immediately change the course of the battle. At some point near the end of the battle, Rostam was apparently killed in an Arab strike on his command post. The decisive factor, again according to the sources, may have been the superiority of Arab archery and/or armor; their arrows could apparently penetrate the Persians’ armor much more easily than vice versa. There may also have been a sandstorm blowing in the Persians’ faces on the final day, but sources are not unanimous on that.

Whatever finally caused the Persian army to break, it did break, and the way was open for the Arabs to take the last two prizes left in Persian Iraq. First was the Sawad, the rich alluvial plain between the Tigris and Euphrates Rivers in southern Iraq, which, along with the Nile Valley, became the breadbasket of the caliphate, at least for a couple of centuries until over-farming and over-irrigation began to ruin its soil. Second was Ctesiphon, which fell to the Arabs in March 637. The Persian Empire wasn’t finished yet, but like Carthage after the Second Punic War, it was all over bar the shouting. Umar decided to pause the conquests in order to consolidate control over the territories that the Arabs had just won, but when Yazdegerd attempted to reconquer Iraq in 642 (his army was quickly defeated at the Battle of Nahavand), that helped spur a new round of Arab expansion.

Yazdegerd spent the next several years basically running for his life throughout Iran, trying to raise some kind of army. But very few of Yazdegerd’s governors in the east wanted to help him and risk getting on the wrong side of the oncoming Arab armies, and on the rare occasions when he did raise a force it was quickly defeated. He wound up in the city of Merv, along the Central Asian Persian-Turkic frontier, in about 651. The governor (marzban) there, a guy named Mahuy or Mahuy Suri, wanted nothing to do with Yazdegerd, so he engaged a nearby Turkic tribe to murder the erstwhile Persian emperor. Yazdegerd supposedly got wind of this plot and tried to flee, but was killed anyway by what may have been a simple thief (though it’s also possible that Mahuy put the guy up to it) at an oasis outside the city. Yazdegerd’s sons kept running east, eventually ending up in the Chinese court, still claiming to be the rightful rulers of the Persian Empire. But in reality the empire died with Yazdegerd, and if we want to get really real it died at Qadisiyah. Oh, and the conquest of Persia also cost one caliph his life – Umar was assassinated in 644 by a group Persians who were trying to strike a blow against their Arab conquerors.

So, the right place and the right time. And the right people. And a weak king of an exhausted empire already in decline and civil war. No excuses. Just the correct perspective.

Be happy. I've acknowledged the prowess and given credit where it was due. Without being backhanded about it.

Cheers, Doc

Source: https://attwiw.com/2015/11/19/today-in-middle-east-history-the-battle-of-al-qadisiyah-636/​

 

[I.R.A]

@I.R.A

Lol .... matam!!!

You cannot help yourself can you?

For all your elevated philosophy and ideation (which I enjoy), I've seen how you speak to (not with) Iranians. So ... (your oh so cute usage of the word "zombie" barely disguises the contempt you hold them in. Though I do not "yet" know if you extend the same cross racially to all Shias ... ).

Seriously doc you don't have to make me to make you angry again and again ......... Uncle BP shoot kar jy ga, q bhateejay bhabi k samnay mujay qasoorwar banany pay tullay ho.

Yes I have nothing good to say for the Persians, it was an empire oppressing humans (otherwise why wouldn't the governors and the thief not respect their baby emperor), when did I ever try hiding my feelings about them? They were the enemy then and they chose to remain the enemy now.

Shia and in some cases Sunni (I am neither Sunni nor Shia) have this tradition that daughter of Yazdegerd (A princess) was made POW and brought to Medinah and was subsequently married to Hazrat Hussain. Can you please help telling all of them that Yazdegerd couldn't have daughter that old? By the way it was your beloved Persians who created this fake fairy tale. Now do you understand why I dislike them? Liars bloody liars .... who couldn't defeat in the battlefield and chose to spread falsehood like cowards.

(* and this my dear friend I is where you get your information from primarily, having read you now for more than a few years .... )

Keep guessing ............ my source is not liked by you ....... in fact it makes you insecure.

but when Yazdegerd attempted to reconquer Iraq in 642 (his army was quickly defeated at the Battle of Nahavand), that helped spur a new round of Arab expansion.

Your baby emperor should have listened to Rostam and remained in his shoes ....... Rostam knew what was coming.

Umar was assassinated in 644 by a group Persians who were trying to strike a blow against their Arab conquerors.

Peak of cowardice ....... couldn't beat you in the battlefield but would kill you in an ambush even when you have spared our lives.

Speaks volumes of Persian bravery ........

Be happy. I've acknowledged the prowess and given credit where it was due. Without being backhanded about it.

Cheers, Doc

I said live with the reality now ......... your excuses like we had a baby emperor and our army was exhausted won't make any difference ........ empire lost, gone ....... never to be rebuilt.

Piyar say man jaty uncle to ajj apnay Persia may reh rahy hotay ...... par nai keera tha ....... chul to karni thi.

 

[Well.wisher]

I accidently killed a little puppy under my car ..
I was driving in a village and a puppy was there , I didn't see him and at the moment , I turned right , he also ran towards right direction nd .... oh crap

 

[Signalian]

I accidently killed a little puppy under my car ..
I was driving in a village and a puppy was there , I didn't see him and at the moment , I turned right , he also ran towards right direction nd .... oh crap

.......

 

[Well.wisher]

.......

What happened

 

[Signalian]

What happened

what kind of car were u driving? did u bury the puppy or throw its body in a rubbish heap?

you cant drive fast on village roads, did u apply brakes?

 

[El Sidd]

I accidently killed a little puppy under my car ..
I was driving in a village and a puppy was there , I didn't see him and at the moment , I turned right , he also ran towards right direction nd .... oh crap

Qatil !!!!

Tumhare paas license hai?

 

[Well.wisher]

what kind of car were u driving? did u bury the puppy or throw its body in a rubbish heap?

you cant drive fast on village roads, did u apply brakes?

It was a road , it was nice so was comfortable driving normal speed .

Maybe the puppy had its time finished . Well, animals at such sides gets killed oftenly for roaming around uselessly on roads . So sad : (

 

[Signalian]

It was a road , it was nice so was comfortable driving normal speed .

Maybe the puppy had its time finished . Well, animals at such sides gets killed oftenly for roaming around uselessly on roads . So sad : (

how beautifully you ignored all my Q's.

 

[El Sidd]

It was a road , it was nice so was comfortable driving normal speed .

Maybe the puppy had its time finished . Well, animals at such sides gets killed oftenly for roaming around uselessly on roads . So sad : (

Uselessly?

Bibi thoda khauf karo.

Every life has purpose and use.

how beautifully you ignored all my Q's.

License ka pocha ha mene....

 

[Well.wisher]

Uselessly?

Bibi thoda khauf karo.

Every life has purpose and use.



License ka pocha ha mene....

Yes i have license now Stop acting like a traffic police .

Me yahan apna dukh share kr rhi , log dekho Ajeeb Ajeeb sawal kr rhy hin .