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[Dubious]

For example, cite the some of the most important theorem in derivation from Quran, like Schrodinger's equation?

I am not sure if you ever opened the Quran but sorry to burst your bubble it doesnt have equations in it!

 

[Skull and Bones]

I am not sure if you ever opened the Quran but sorry to burst your bubble it doesnt have equations in it!

Not equation, i'm seeking for explanation. Or any other explanation, does the Quran had any reference of any exotic natural phenomenon not visible to naked eye, but confirmed later by scientific experiments and observation?

 

[Dubious]

Not equation, i'm seeking for explanation. Or any other explanation, does the Quran had any reference of any exotic natural phenomenon not visible to naked eye, but confirmed later by scientific experiments and observation?

Well, it spoke of the sea not mixing :

1400 years ago ALLAH mentioned the following verses in the Quran
It is He Who has let free the two bodies of flowing water: One palatable and sweet, and the other salt and bitter; yet has He made a barrier between them, a partition that is forbidden to be passed.
[Quran 25:53]
He has let free the two bodies of flowing water, meeting together. Between them is a Barrier which they do not transgress
[Quran 55:19-20]

Until recently no one quite knew what this actually meant. But thanks to advances in science we have now found out that there are indeed two seas, one salty and the other sweet but even though they meet they do not mix. This can be seen in the Strait of Gibraltar where the Atlantic Ocean and Mediterranean Sea meet.

There are large waves, strong currents, and tides in the Mediterranean Sea and the Atlantic Ocean. Mediterranean Sea water enters the Atlantic by Gibraltar. But their temperature, salinity, and densities do not change, because of the barrier that separates them.

 

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@Akheilos
Who was this dude quoting your name and saying I love you?

 

[Dubious]

Although there are large waves, strong currents, and tides in these seas, they do not mix or transgress this barrier.

The Holy Quran mentioned that there is a barrier between two seas that meet and that they do not transgress. God has said:

He has set free the two seas meeting together. There is a barrier between them. They do not transgress.

(Quran, 55:19-20)

But when the Quran speaks about the divider between fresh and salt water, it mentions the existence of “a forbidding partition” with the barrier. God has said in the Quran:

He is the one who has set free the two kinds of water, one sweet and palatable, and the other salty and bitter. And He has made between them a barrier and a forbidding partition.

(Quran, 25:53)

One may ask, why did the Quran mention the partition when speaking about the divider between fresh and salt water, but did not mention it when speaking about the divider between the two seas?

Modern science has discovered that in estuaries, where fresh (sweet) and salt water meet, the situation is somewhat different from what is found in places where two seas meet. It has been discovered that what distinguishes fresh water from salt water in estuaries is a “pycnocline zone with a marked density discontinuity separating the two layers.”3 This partition (zone of separation) has a different salinity from the fresh water and from the salt water4

Figure 14: Longitudinal section showing salinity (parts per thousand ‰) in an estuary. We can see here the partition (zone of separation) between the fresh and the salt water. (Introductory Oceanography, Thurman, p. 301, with a slight enhancement.) (Click on the image to enlarge it.)

This information has been discovered only recently, using advanced equipment to measure temperature, salinity, density, oxygen dissolubility, etc. The human eye cannot see the difference between the two seas that meet, rather the two seas appear to us as one homogeneous sea. Likewise, the human eye cannot see the division of water in estuaries into the three kinds: fresh water, salt water, and the partition (zone of separation).

 

[Skull and Bones]

Well, it spoke of the sea not mixing :

1400 years ago ALLAH mentioned the following verses in the Quran
It is He Who has let free the two bodies of flowing water: One palatable and sweet, and the other salt and bitter; yet has He made a barrier between them, a partition that is forbidden to be passed.
[Quran 25:53]
He has let free the two bodies of flowing water, meeting together. Between them is a Barrier which they do not transgress
[Quran 55:19-20]

Until recently no one quite knew what this actually meant. But thanks to advances in science we have now found out that there are indeed two seas, one salty and the other sweet but even though they meet they do not mix. This can be seen in the Strait of Gibraltar where the Atlantic Ocean and Mediterranean Sea meet.

There are large waves, strong currents, and tides in the Mediterranean Sea and the Atlantic Ocean. Mediterranean Sea water enters the Atlantic by Gibraltar. But their temperature, salinity, and densities do not change, because of the barrier that separates them.

Why is the partition forbidden to be passed?

 

[Dubious]

Why is the partition forbidden to be passed?

Not forbidden to be passed...man direct translation kills...It just means there is a barrier "something" (unseen barrier) stops them from mixing..read the other posts with the explanation...

 

[Skull and Bones]

Not forbidden to be passed...man direct translation kills...It just means there is a barrier "something" (unseen barrier) stops them from mixing..read the other posts with the explanation...

In the second post, it is only logical to have a separation of the sweet and salty water, as the gradient of flow of water is against the gradient of difference in concentration of salty water.

Quote on something science is ignorant about, like event horizon of a black hole and the dark matter/energy.

 

[Dubious]

In the second post, it is only logical to have a separation of the sweet and salty water, as the gradient of flow of water is against the gradient of difference in concentration of salty water.

Quote on something science is ignorant about, like event horizon of a black hole and the dark matter/energy.

Even if Quran wrote about that stuff..unfortunately I aint very knowledgeable in that field to understand the depth...

It is logical but it was only discovered and proven recently (10-20 yrs)..and is logical to us now because gradient flow is common knowledge it today's world not 1400 yrs ago

 

[Dubious]

@Skull and Bones here go through these sites if they interest you:

Category: The Scientific Miracles of the Holy Quran - The Religion of Islam

Universe

Concept of science based on the Qur'an

 

[Skull and Bones]

Even if Quran wrote about that stuff..unfortunately I aint very knowledgeable in that field to understand the depth...

It is logical but it was only discovered and proven recently (10-20 yrs)..and is logical to us now because gradient flow is common knowledge it today's world not 1400 yrs ago

It is not even science, it is basic logic. Lets ignore science for the time being.

From the link , it is clear that people had drinking water from the river, and they had the idea that river water is suitable for drinking while the ocean/sea water isn't, because of high level of salt. And it safe to conclude that they had the observation of of river water going into sea, and not the other way around. So, they had that 'something' in mind which prevents the mixing of sea water to the river water. And they put a 'God' made barrier to define the phenomenon.

See, this is not even science. Anyone with good observation skills can define it.

 

[Dubious]

It is not even science, it is basic logic. Lets ignore science for the time being.

Well in the olden times it was also logical to think the earth was flat ...logic is derived from knowledge that we already posses...

From the link , it is clear that people had drinking water from the river, and they had the idea that river water is suitable for drinking while the ocean/sea water isn't, because of high level of salt. And it safe to conclude that they had the observation of of river water going into sea, and not the other way around.

Not sure how many people from the desert 1400 yrs back would come to this logic! Rather think this deeply about rivers and not sure how many actually saw the seas...

So, they had that 'something' in mind which prevents the mixing of sea water to the river water. And they put a 'God' made barrier to define the phenomenon.
See, this is not even science. Anyone with good observation skills can define it.

Good observation with trained ability to assimilate knowledge with observation...

 

[Skull and Bones]

@Skull and Bones here go through these sites if they interest you:

Category: The Scientific Miracles of the Holy Quran - The Religion of Islam

Universe

Concept of science based on the Qur'an

Because the earth and the heavens above (the sun, the moon, stars, planets, galaxies, etc.) have been formed from this same ‘smoke,’ we conclude that the earth and the heavens were one connected entity. Then out of this homogeneous ‘smoke,’ they formed and separated from each other. God has said in the Quran:

“Have not those who disbelieved known that the heavens and the earth were one connected entity, then We separated them?...” (Quran 21:30)

As it seems, even heaven came into existence after the big bang, that raises the queries on the origin of God.

Well in the olden times it was also logical to think the earth was flat ...logic is derived from knowledge that we already posses...

The concept of spherical earth dates back to three thousand years back, because of good observational skills and interpretation skills of humans.

Not sure how many people from the desert 1400 yrs back would come to this logic! Rather think this deeply about rivers and not sure how many actually saw the seas...

By saying that, you're under estimating the intelligence of humans who made quite remarkable feats before the advent of Quran. Look at the scientific achievements of Romans, and one has to wonder, what kind of thoughts they've been through to come up with something as radical as this,

Good observation with trained ability to assimilate knowledge with observation...

That is science for you, but they didn't defined that 'something barrier', so it is just observation, not assimilation. As i said, believers always count the contribution in 'The God of the unknown'.

 

[Dubious]

As it seems, even heaven came into existence after the big bang, that raises the queries on the origin of God.

really? But no one has seen heaven or even proved its existence yet big bang scientists (who dont believe in heaven and all) want to say heaven came in existence after the big bang?

As it seems, even heaven came into existence after the big bang, that raises the queries on the origin of God.



The concept of spherical earth dates back to three thousand years back, because of good observational skills and interpretation skills of humans.

Yes it did....

By saying that, you're under estimating the intelligence of humans who made quite remarkable feats before the advent of Quran. Look at the scientific achievements of Romans, and one has to wonder, what kind of thoughts they've been through to come up with something as radical as this,

Well many of the scientific achievements of Roman had to be scaled up and polished...their basic ideas were right but not all details were right...and also the fact that Roman empire was spread and didnt exactly start from a desert with limited resources and chances of observing and testing some event..not to mention the ignorance

That is science for you, but they didn't defined that 'something barrier', so it is just observation, not assimilation. As i said, believers always count the contribution in 'The God of the unknown'.

Well they realized there is a barrier ....which didnt bring in the mixing....Quran is not a book on science but signs...so it only points at signs...

 

[Skull and Bones]

really? But no one has seen heaven or even proved its existence yet big bang scientists (who dont believe in heaven and all) want to say heaven came in existence after the big bang?

Because in the verse it says heaven and earth were connected entity, and made from the same smoke, so it is only logical both owes it's origin to the big bang.

And while quoting the Quran verse, i'm neglecting the views and hypothesis of the scientists, as we might not be sure of the orin of the universe, until we find the reason for the rapid expansion of it. That is dark energy and dark matter. As long as 75% of the known matter/energy equivalence of the universe is unknown, it's futile to attempt to decipher the origin of the universe. It's like looking at the tail, and imagining an elephant, by an ignorant.