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Urdu is a trans-national language much like Farsi, Pashto & Punjabi but unlike those languages it is :

(a) Our Lingua Franca !

(b) An ever evolving language so there really isn't an issue of 'what is Original Urdu' & what isn't & whether the incorporation of more Farsi or more Arabic or more English or more Sanskrit & so on & so forth, words into Urdu would make it loose its 'identity' because Urdu, better than any other language that I've ever heard of, adheres best to the maxim 'the only constant is change' !

(c) Our Father - Quaid-e-Azam Muhammad Ali Jinnah asked us to make Urdu as Our National Language - No self-respecting Pakistani can go against the Words of Our Father !

(d) Its my Mother Tongue....my...I - Armstrong the Magnificent - I set trends...the rest of you follow ! :smokin:

So @waz - Whats this I hear about 'Pro-Independence' voices coming out of AJK ? :pissed:

Naak katvaaa dii hum Kashmiryoon key ! :(

Nah Quaid is gone bro and his Pakistan is gone now too, time to make a new Pakistan. :cool:

Bhartis made bollywood hindi so they can influence our people so we need to cut that language link with them, I also prefer full cutting of off ties between the two states, if they do not want to talk Kashmir then we have nothing to talk about and seal borders. :mad:
 
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My cousins tell me the same nor did I ever saw anything of the sort whenever I had the chance to visit AJK but the Indians & a few Pro-Independence Kashmiris I ran into have a habit of talking about 'rallies' & 'dissent' & what not happening over there & its always worthwhile to talk to a native to know things better so 'thanks' ! :tup:

And what '50s incident ? :unsure:

Lol@rallies and dissent. Precious very few and they usually get beaten up by the nationalists . Not that I condone such violence. We all have the rights to air our views.

In the 50's a boat sank and 30 or so people were shaheed. Some folks blamed the early preparations for Mangla dam and the strong currents created thereon. It was actually a faulty boat. Anyway pro-Indepedence slogans were raised by a small crowd and the AJK militia(later to be the AJK regiment) heard about it. The militia along with thousands of Azad Kashmiris arrived and threatened to destroy anyone who advocated the splitting up of AJK with Pakistan. The crowd went home and that was the end of it.

Patriots till the end. After all we coined the term "Kashmir banigah Pakistan".
 
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Nah Quaid is gone bro and his Pakistan is gone now too, time to make a new Pakistan. :cool:

What would you - Syed Enrique - know about Pakistan & the Quaid ? :p:

The Quaid lives on in the heart of every patriot as does his Pakistan ! :pakistan:
 
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Nah Quaid is gone bro and his Pakistan is gone now too, time to make a new Pakistan. :cool:

Bhartis made bollywood hindi so they can influence our people so we need to cut that language link with them, I also prefer full cutting of off ties between the two states, if they do not want to talk Kashmir then we have nothing to talk about and seal borders. :mad:

Can't seal the other side of Kashmir bro. They are our people. India still needs to be talked to. What else can we do?
 
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What would you - Syed Enrique - know about Pakistan & the Quaid ? :p:

The Quaid lives on in the heart of every patriot as does his Pakistan ! :pakistan:

Bro Pakistanis keep asking what did he want meanwhile the nation is burning, it is time to move on and ask yourselves what do you want for Pakistan because what is going on right now is not working.

Can't seal the other side of Kashmir bro. They are our people. India still needs to be talked to. What else can we do?

I meant seal borders for trade unless they want to talk kashmir (like wagah), we will never seal the LOC and accept it as legitimate unless kashmiris on the other side are content. Don't let India use roads for transit to Afghanistan either. :coffee:
 
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Bro Pakistanis keep asking what did he want meanwhile the nation is burning, it is time to move on and ask yourselves what do you want for Pakistan because what is going on right now is not working.

Why aren't you responding to my Mexican digs at you ! :(

I know what I want & I believe thats what the Quaid wanted too ! :kiss3:
 
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I meant seal borders for trade unless they want to talk kashmir (like wagah), we will never seal the LOC and accept it as legitimate unless kashmiris on the other side are content. Don't let India use roads for transit to Afghanistan either. :coffee:

Oh ok I get you.
 
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Lol@rallies and dissent. Precious very few and they usually get beaten up by the nationalists . Not that I condone such violence. We all have the rights to air our views.

In the 50's a boat sank and 30 or so people were shaheed. Some folks blamed the early preparations for Mangla dam and the strong currents created thereon. It was actually a faulty boat. Anyway pro-Indepedence slogans were raised by a small crowd and the AJK militia(later to be the AJK regiment) heard about it. The militia along with thousands of Azad Kashmiris arrived and threatened to destroy anyone who advocated the splitting up of AJK with Pakistan. The crowd went home and that was the end of it.

Patriots till the end. After all we coined the term "Kashmir banigah Pakistan".

Waisee bro why did we have a special status for AJK with a PM & a President & everything ? :unsure:

Why didn't we instead give it a GB like status as a de-facto but not de-jure Province ?

Nah man I am trying to have a serious convo. :(

Yeah but talibs think the Quaid wanted what they want too. o_O

No those basterds call him Kafir-e-Azam !

Besides 'ideologies' aren't restricted to 'nut-jobs' otherwise its the same as saying that because Castro employed violence in spreading Socialism & God knows how many innocents died in that so lets pin it on Marx or furthermore just because Hitler was a nut-job Nationalism or National Socialism is to blame for it ! o_O
 
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