What would escalate war with Iran?

[twilight]

Bunker Busters can not harm Fordo installations!

their bunker busters need a clear sky ( by all mean ) and a dead Anti air systems in Iran side ....

 

[ashok321]

Bunker Busters can not harm Fordo installations!

Mistaken you are!

Fordo is well known to US intelligence and its working on it, satellite photos are available with pinpoint GPS accuracy.

Google Maps satellite images for the Fordo site can be found at coordinates 34.885649,50.99669. Images zoomed to the 20 meter level show a large double fence perimeter border erected around the site with towers located every 25 meters. Six 10 meter wide entry portals to the underground complex are located within the fenced area, as well as several buildings, the largest of which is approximately 5500 square meters.

It has two opening from 2 tunnels.

Listening device disguised as rock blown up at Fordo nuclear site | The Times of Israel

it would take few precise sorties of GBU 57A on the same spot to punch a hole, once its done, its over.

 

[rayan123]

finally understand that .... conventional mean will not work. and you think obama will order a nuclear attack?

no sorry, the american people, the world, and even the US army will not allow this,

your genocidales dream will remain that dreams...

US-Joint Chiefs of Staff until 2007 peter pace:

In an interview at the National Press Club on Feb. 17, 2006, the chairman of the US-Joint Chiefs of Staff, Gen. Peter Pace, said: “It is the absolute responsibility of everybody in uniform to disobey an order that is either illegal or immoral. (&#8230 They [the troops] will be held accountable for the decisions they make. So they should in fact not obey the illegal and immoral orders to use weapons of mass destruction.” Asked if commanders aren’t supposed to follow orders from their superiors, General Pace states “They still have very clear choices to make, and their choices will have major impact, both on the troops who look to them for leadership right now and on their own personal fate when this is all over.” Even orders from superiors, “including the president and the secretary of defense” do not give legitimation to “commit crimes against humanity.” Therefore every soldier is fully responsible for the decision he makes, and he obeys his orders at his own risk. The International Court of Justice determined in 1996 that “the threat or use of nuclear weapons would generally be contrary to the rules of international law applicable in armed conflict, and in particular the principles and rules of humanitarian law.” Consequently any order that could lead with reasonable probability to the use of nuclear weapons should be disobeyed. Preparations for the purpose of committing an illegal and immoral act are also forbidden. According to the principles of the Nuremberg Tribunal the fact that a person acted pursuent to order of his government or of a superior does not relieve him from responsibility under international law, provided a moral choice was in fact possible to him. Furthermore complicity in the commission of a crime against peace, a war crime, or a crime against humanity as set forth in Nuremberg Principles VI is a crime under international law.

In his discussion of General Pace’s statements Jorge Hirsch writes “Slowly, evidence will accumulate that the use of nuclear weapons against iran was a premeditated act, following many years of planning. No matter how careful planners were in erasing their tracks, evidence will slowly surface. Classified information will become declassified. Leaks will occur.” Nuremberg will come again.


and of course i will talk to globace consequences .

your dream will remain that dreams

and


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[ashok321]

In Europe, Maj. Gen. Vladimir Dvorkin, head of the Moscow-based Center for Strategic Nuclear Forces, is convinced that if the Iranians fully develop their nuclear program, "they will most likely be able to threaten the whole of Europe." In repsonse to this sense of urgency, France, Germany and Great Britain are spearheading European Union efforts to convince Iran to abandon its nuclear ambitions. In January 2012, these efforts scored a major success when the EU voted to embargo Iranian oil imports and to freeze the assets of Iran's central bank. "We will not accept Iran acquiring a nuclear weapon. Iran has so far had no regard for its international obligations and is already exporting and threatening violence around its region," British Prime Minister David Cameron, French President Nicolas Sarkozy and German Chancellor Angela Merkel said in a joint statement. Following this lead, in March 2012, the Society for Worldwide Interbank Financial Telecommunication (SWIFT) cut off all business with Iran, effectively stopping transactions with nearly 30 Iranian banks and their subsidiaries worldwide.

Without SWIFT code, money can not be tranffered beyond borders.

 

[rayan123]

Mistaken you are!

Fordo is well known to US intelligence and its working on it, satellite photos are available with pinpoint GPS accuracy.



It has two opening from 2 tunnels.

Listening device disguised as rock blown up at Fordo nuclear site | The Times of Israel

it would take few precise sorties of GBU 57A on the same spot to punch a hole, once its done, its over.

NOT ITS NOT

James cartwright also know this facility and the the GBU 57 nevertheless it clearly said :

" TERE AREN T WEAPONS GO DOWN THERE"

i know it desapoint you but its only the TRUE HARD COLD FACT.... can you live with it lol

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[rayan123]

their bunker busters need a clear sky ( by all mean ) and a dead Anti air systems in Iran side ....

pentagon aknwoledge that GBU 57 is not match for forow, and even for natanz if the super concrete was used there !

simple fact !

and as said michael hayden bush's NSA director:

You don’t have to take my word for it. Just take a look at this quote from former Bush-era CIA and NSA Director Michael Hayden:



“I do not underestimate the Israeli talent, but geometry and physics tell us that Iran’s nuclear program would pose a difficult challenge to any military, as it is not a raid, and Israel’s resources are more limited than those of the U.S.,” Hayden told Haaretz.

“There is no absolute CERTAINTY THAT ALL TARGETS ARE KNOWN,” he added. “They will have to be revisited – which only the U.S. Air Force would be able to do – and the operation will only set the Iranians back some time and actually push them to do that which it is supposed to prevent, getting nuclear weapons.”


iran certainly has somes korean like surprise LOL

 

[ashok321]

NOT ITS NOT

James cartwright also know this facility and the the GBU 57 nevertheless it clearly said :

" TERE AREN T WEAPONS GO DOWN THERE"

i know it desapoint you but its only the TRUE HARD COLD FACT.... can you live with it lol

GET READY FOR A NUCLEAR IRAN

Iran Air War: U.S. Plans For Possibility, But Goal Remains Unclear

Among the weapons that could be used against Iran is the 20-foot-long, 15-ton Massive Ordnance Penetrator (MOP), designed to be used against deep-buried targets such as the nuclear reprocessing plant shielded by 250 feet of granite in a mountain outside the holy city of Qom, according to a new report by the International Atomic Energy Agency.

Although the MOP has encountered technical problems in its development, Schwartz said it is "operational.''

MOPping Up: The USA’s 30,000 Pound Bomb

 

[rayan123]

Without SWIFT code, money can not be tranffered beyond borders.

really really really really not an issue


Iran has made ​​its way through the gold, monaie local and barter.

despite the lost of 50% of oil sales , the Iranian economy shrank by less than 1%

before the end of the decade, the yuan will be convertible monaie and current problems will be settled.

juste look at north korea, there a full galaxy difference between iran and korea.... and korea succeed

iran will also

WELCOME TO IRAN NUCLEAR

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GET READY FOR A NUCLEAR IRAN

 

[atatwolf]

I like to ask: How is Iran going to survive Sanctions?

There has only been couple of years of sanctions are Iran is already feelin it. How are they going to survive 10, 20 or 30 years of sanctions?

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http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/the-dewline/massive ordnance penetrator.jpg


"It would be a formidable air campaign, but it could be accomplished,'' Deptula said. And it would take the United States to do it. "The Israelis have one of the most excellent, innovative air forces in the world -- that's not at issue,''

 

[rayan123]

Iran Air War: U.S. Plans For Possibility, But Goal Remains Unclear



MOPping Up: The USA’s 30,000 Pound Bomb

OPERATIONAL doesn't mean they reach the room 100 meteres under the granit......is that simple

 

[atatwolf]

Self-delete

 

[tyrant]

Mistaken you are!

Fordo is well known to US intelligence and its working on it, satellite photos are available with pinpoint GPS accuracy.



It has two opening from 2 tunnels.

Listening device disguised as rock blown up at Fordo nuclear site | The Times of Israel

it would take few precise sorties of GBU 57A on the same spot to punch a hole, once its done, its over.

Even if fordo is leveled, Iranian nuclear program is not deterred.
God knows how many fordos are under billions of mountains in Iran!

 

[rayan123]

september 2012

California Sen. Dianne Feinstein, who chairs the Senate Intelligence Committee, said Tuesday in San Francisco that while Iran's nuclear capability is rapidly advancing, she does not believe that the United States would make a pre-emptive strike on that country,

"nor do I believe that would be the right thing to do."



Feinstein, a Democrat who is seeking her fifth term in the Senate this year, made the comments during an hour-long meeting with The Chronicle's editorial board.

Asked about the growing sentiment that the United States might intervene to stop Iran's march toward nuclear capability - and the resultant threat to Israel - Feinstein said, "I wouldn't make that conclusion at this time. The
Based on recent committee briefings, she said, "intelligence says it can be delayed but not likely taken out. There are more than two dozen (nuclear) places."

as i said

GET READY FOR A NUCLEAR IRAN

and

WELCOME TO IRAN NUCLEAR

Even if fordo is leveled, Iranian nuclear program is not deterred.
God knows how many fordos are under billions of mountains in Iran!

YES COMPLETELY RIGHT


Meir Dagan, and Michael Hayden said exactly the same ....


as i said:

GET READY FOR A NUCLEAR IRAN

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WELCOME TO IRAN NUCLEAR

 

[atatwolf]

Something the two guys above don't understand:

Nuclear IRAN is UNACCEPTABLE.

Even if Iran gets very very close to making one which the world will never allow, Iran will get nuked and invaded if necessary.

There are red lines, if these are crossed, necessary sanctions will be done, probably some time in the future Iran will give up because the sanctions that have been going on are already biting, just imagine sanctions for 20 years.. lol.

 

[ashok321]

OPERATIONAL doesn't mean they reach the room 100 meteres under the granit......is that simple

Some graphics show expectations of over 60 feet of concrete destroyed, and a USAF article stated that the bomb was meant to penetrate 200 feet underground before exploding.

Few sorties and its over!