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What Is Zoroastrianism? and what do they have to do with Mazda car company?

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Did not watch OP video but can confirm Mazda is from company founder name, like so many other japanese car makers:
Mazda= Matsuda
Toyota= Toyoda
Honda= Honda
Suzuki= Suzuki
Mazda wiki says this:

Officially, the company states that

The name was also associated with Ahura Mazda (God of Light), with the hope that it would brighten the image of these compact vehicles.
 
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I don't want to press this issue. U know this thread will be shut.

I know what I can say without getting banned.

I know what if I say will at a minimum have the post deleted.

Zarathustra was not just ANY Prophet.

He was the FIRST.

Zoroastrianism was not a minor regional religion.

It was a world religion spanning Africa to Asia to Europe to China.

It was THE dominant religion of most of the civilized world. Across three empires. Over 1500 years. 500 if them in Rome.

Including holding sway over all of Arabia for over 2000 years.

So if you're intelligent, if you know Arabs and Persians, I'll ask you again.

Why is there zero mention of Zarathustra in the Quran?

Did God forget his first Prophet?

Or did His message change?

@El Sidd ...

I would again reiterate per Islamic belief the first prophet was Adam. Adam was not only the first man but first Prophet because God did not leave human beings without guidance right from the beginning lest they say we did not receive the guidance and are absolved. So allow us to disagree on this point. Secondly, again per our belief Quran is not a word of man but of God, word by word. Not a historic document, not a book where a man can decide to mention or not mention anyone. So the wisdom behind it is only known to Him.
 
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I would watch it,you are wrong people won't change faith due to force only,sprinkle little bit of hunger over it.

Yes absolutely.

Hungry kids can break the strongest men. And women.

Add fatigue. And you have a potent push towards a name change for God.

Mazda wiki says this:

Officially, the company states that

The name was also associated with Ahura Mazda (God of Light), with the hope that it would brighten the image of these compact vehicles.

I'll search out the link.

The owner wanted to convert to Zoroastrianism.

Obviously that was not possible.

I would again reiterate per Islamic belief the first prophet was Adam. Adam was not only the first man but first Prophet because God did not leave human beings without guidance right from the beginning lest they say we did not receive the guidance and are absolved. So allow us to disagree on this point. Secondly, again per our belief Quran is not a word of man but of God, word by word. Not a historic document, not a book where a man can decide to mention or not mention anyone. So the wisdom behind it is only known to Him.

Yes let's leave it. I have zero interest in challenging your faith.

You are human like I am. It's important to be a good human first.

I'm not in this thread for point scoring.

As I've said, I have zero interest in converting even one of you.
 
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Yes let's leave it. I have zero interest in challenging your faith.

You are human like I am. It's important to be a good human first.

I'm not in this thread for point scoring.

As I've said, I have zero interest in converting even one of you.

Of course. Neither is that anyone’s intention on this thread I believe. The nature of the discussion was academic.
 
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Mazda wiki says this:

Officially, the company states that

The name was also associated with Ahura Mazda (God of Light), with the hope that it would brighten the image of these compact vehicles.
more detail from Mazda website:

"“Mazda-go“
made by a company that was then managed by a man named Matsuda, the name “Mazda-go” sounds fitting enough. The question is, how come it was spelt “Mazda” instead of “Matsuda”? “Mazda” comes from Ahura Mazda, the god of harmony, intelligence and wisdom from the earliest civilization in West Asia. Key members of Toyo Kogyo interpreted Mazda as a symbol of the beginning of the East and the West civilization, but also a symbol of the automotive civilization and culture. Striving to make a contribution to the world peace and to be a light in the automotive industry, Toyo Kogyo was renamed Mazda Motor Corporation. “Mazda” was also a perfect way to pay respect to the substantial founder, whose family name is pronounced very close to “Mazda”."


Jujiro Matsuda
 
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more detail from Mazda website:

"“Mazda-go“
made by a company that was then managed by a man named Matsuda, the name “Mazda-go” sounds fitting enough. The question is, how come it was spelt “Mazda” instead of “Matsuda”? “Mazda” comes from Ahura Mazda, the god of harmony, intelligence and wisdom from the earliest civilization in West Asia. Key members of Toyo Kogyo interpreted Mazda as a symbol of the beginning of the East and the West civilization, but also a symbol of the automotive civilization and culture. Striving to make a contribution to the world peace and to be a light in the automotive industry, Toyo Kogyo was renamed Mazda Motor Corporation. “Mazda” was also a perfect way to pay respect to the substantial founder, whose family name is pronounced very close to “Mazda”."


Jujiro Matsuda








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A beauty almost everybody can aspire to own in their own lifetime


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@padamchen Have you taken a look at the trailer of "Tehran Taboo"? I won't post the trailer here as it might profane these pages...but makes me wonder....what would happen when the present generation of 55-60+ Iranians kick the bucket?

Which are the people who would be considered eligible for returning into the fold of Zoroastrianism? anybody from the lands ruled by the old Achaemenid Empire? or those from the 16 perfect lands?
 
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Iranian Mobeds don't seem quite as exclusive as Parsis.

There is a short answer to this and a very long debate, but I'll take the middle road and give you some background perspective to the relationship between the Zoroastrian communities in India and Iran since they separated 1300 years ago.

Till around the 15th century, the Iranian priesthood were the seniors, and Parsis were the junior priests. Iranian priests set the path which the Parsi community in India followed.

From the 15th to the 18th century things became really tough for the Priests in Iran. They realized that to survive both the remaining atash and mobed families in Iran would now need to be moved to India.

That is why now of the 9 main Atash Behram fires, 8 are in India and only one survives in Yezd.

Of the 8 in India, 7 were moved between the 16th and 18th centuries to Bombay. The original one we came with surviving in Udvada, as the Iran Shah.

The treatise of the Parsis in India was written by an Indian head priest (Dastur) in the 16th century. Called the Qissa-i-Sanjan.

Between the 15th and the 18th centuries there were a series of 19 theological epistles, called Rivayats, written between our priests in Iran and India, on matters of the religion and rituals and customs, as things wound up in Iran and the senior arm moved to India.

the Indian clergy now is the head clergy of Zoroastrians worldwide. And the mobeds in Iran take their direction from our Dasturs. The senior Vada Dasturji of Udvada being somewhat equivalent to the Pope. It usually being a hereditary position shared between the 4 main Dastur families that migrated to India 1300 years ago (all Indian dasturs, including me, trace our lineage to those 4 clans).

Mobeds in Iran know well who practising Zoroastrians are, even if they live as Muslims there.

Apostasy is punishable by death in Iran.

From what we are hearing now, even the suspicion of being Zoroastrian is leading to the authorities sealing and taking over properties of Iranians. Its not a good situation, and things are slowly coming to a head there ....

Either way, Indian Parsi priesthood is firmly against conversion.

Some senior priests are beginning to speak about reversion of Persian Iranian Muslims elsewhere in the world.

Priests outside India are way more open to that.

Priests in Iran cannot do anything. They are in survival mode. I meet many of them here and elsewhere regularly. Though internet is very dicey for them ...

All the Kurdish converts are being converted by Indian Parsi priests. And some Iranian expat priests. And there are many Kurds who are being trained in the rituals. But can never become priests unless the direct lineage to ancient Magi laws of the faith are amended or twisted in some way.

The risk here as many Iranians like @Cthulhu will tell you, and I agree with him, is of Kurds breaking away when they have something of a critical mass and starting another sect of Zoroastrianism that is at loggerheads with the Persian one.

Something like your Sunnis and Shias.

Its going to be a fine balance as we drive forward for our homeland ...

Does that answer your doubt?
 
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@padamchen Have you taken a look at the trailer of "Tehran Taboo"? I won't post the trailer here as it might profane these pages...but makes me wonder....what would happen when the present generation of 55-60+ Iranians kick the bucket?

Which are the people who would be considered eligible for returning into the fold of Zoroastrianism? anybody from the lands ruled by the old Achaemenid Empire? or those from the 16 perfect lands?

I saw the trailers. As long as it has a Hollywood/West stamp or link to it, the mullacracy are safe.

To understand Zoroastrianism and its stand towards blood and conversion one must look at history of Persian empires and Zoroastrianism as a state religion and as an ancestral racial faith.

The two were even then never ever the same.

Sort of on a very compressed time and geographical scale the Hindu Chola conquest of south east Asia.
 
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