Was Ataturk spy for British against Ottoman Empire?

[TurAr]

Turkey is on the path of destroying the cult of Kemal. He will probably stay as a founder(i dont have problem with it) but Turkish state wont give a damn about his old-fashioned positivist ideas anymore. Thats what the majority wants. If our kemalist friends here claim that AKP wil not do that. Well,wait and see.

Well, there is difference between state and governments you know.
Apperently 10 years didn't enough for you, even 10 more years won't be enough.

Your kind will always seen as the two ladies in 1:50.

 

[regular]

I don't know how many Pakistanis like Ataturk or are fond of Turkey's secular nature but i know one thing , if ever there was a leader like Ataturk to rise in Pakistan , his head would be cut off the day he raises it . Pakistan is a country where anyone who speaks against the blasphemy law is murdered and the murderer is showered with rose petals by civilians and lawyers alike like with one their governors and with the minority affairs minister who spoke for minority rights . Nothing in common with what Ataturk stood for .I just hope The OP and other like minded Pakistanis realise that it is Pakistan that needs to emulate Turkey and NOT the other way round.

Okay Thanks for ure great remarks about Pakistanis....Yes we have to respect the desires of the majority of our Pakistani pplz....Yes its great the Pakistani pplz are so much loyal to the commands of Allah SBWT that they can give any sacrifice to make their Gold Allah SBWT be happi......Yes we gonna go against anybody who tries to oversmart us and goes against the laws of Holy Quran and Sunnah of his beloved Rasool Allah( صلى الله عليه وسلم )............

 

[Killuminati]

Well, there is difference between state and governments you know.
Apperently 10 years didn't enough for you, even 10 more years won't be enough.

Your kind will always seen as the two ladies in 1:50.

Stop talking idiotic you moron what you mean by your kind and my kind?? If you had the correct knowledge you wouldnt stop either. There is no need to have a one minute like this or whatever. If you had a really love for your grandfathers, you would think about them everyday in your heart and not like western culture stopping one minute sillences and memorising somebody. We are not western people we have our own culture and this is nothing else but a western innovation.

If you said to me at front of my face about that two veiled women, i would k.o you less then a second dont make me angry now.

 

[TurAr]

Stop talking idiotic you moron what you mean by your kind and my kind?? If you had the correct knowledge you wouldnt stop either. There is no need to have a one minute like this or whatever. If you had a really love for your grandfathers, you would think about them everyday in your heart and not like western culture stopping one minute sillences and memorising somebody. We are not western people we have our own culture and this is nothing else but a western innovation.

If you said to me at front of my face about that two veiled women, i would k.o you less then a second dont make me angry now.

I really do not want to argue with someone who thinks listening music is forbidden by quran.

So calm down, by saying 'your kind' i mean people who are disrespecting Ataturk and they will always be minortiy.

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

AtaTurk a British agent??? is this a joke?

i would imagine he HATED the brits........!!!!!!! He fought in the Ottoman Army and was a distinguished officer. Britishers were the enemies of the Khilafat.

Saud dynasty is more likely to be considered ''spy'' than Ataturk could ever be.


Ataturk was the best thing that ever happened to Turkish people. That's why they respect him so much.

 

[tesla]

Well, there is difference between state and governments you know.
Apperently 10 years didn't enough for you, even 10 more years won't be enough.

Your kind will always seen as the two ladies in 1:50.

go on worship him they are not ataturkist they believe typivally chiristian romanic pagan belief

 

[Killuminati]

I really do not want to argue with someone who thinks listening music is forbidden by quran.

So calm down, by saying 'your kind' i mean people who are disrespecting Ataturk and they will always be minortiy.

You dont even have the niveau to argue. Look at your stupid statement.. ''By saying ''your kind'''i mean the people who are disrespecting Ataturk.'' What kind of bullsh*t is this dividing people in two groups? You want exactly what the emperializm wants and then coming here hanging out a Ataturk fan.. How you know that the two women are disrispectfull agains Ataturk? Because they didnt stop?? Can you read their hearts? You retardness proven by this.

And btw, i am right about your knowledge. You do like you know everything but you dont know anything. When for the last time you studied something about the Islam by the correct way? You think i just say something out my head that music is forbidden? You dont even know what a Tasfeer means but you can judge people..

Anyway stop argue and stop saying idiotic things ok so no need to be angry.

go on worship him they are not ataturkist they believe typivally chiristian romanic pagan belief

o iki karıyı takside bi sikerim ismet inönü mezarından çıkıp tebrik eder haaaaa!!

Sen bana niye o Thank'i verdin? Cek o thank'ini geri senin tankini mankini istemiyorum. Git Tankini TurAr'a ver.

 

[tesla]

sanane sana mı soracam kime than verip vermiyeceğimi

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

siz bir konu hakkında tartışmak gerek yok.


lutfen...arkadaslarim

 

[tesla]

siz bir konu hakkında tartışmak gerek yok.


lutfen...arkadaslarim

haklısın kardeş ne yapalım yeterince birbirimize düşüyoz işte birisi atatürke tapar ötekisi dünyaya cihad ilan eder ne yapacağımızı şaşırdık türkiyede bu ikisi arasında ezilip duruyor bir türlü orta yolu bulamıyoruz bazen insan şirazaden çıkıyor işte neyse bu başlık kapatılmalı insanın canını yeterince sıkıyor

 

[Ottoman-Turk]

ya vallahi ya biri Ataturke tapar digerleri Muzik dinlemeyelim gunah , der , ya orta yol benim gibi olacan , hem ataturkcu hem muslumanci , hem turkcu , hem insanci hepsi bir

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

hepsi bir....!

ameen, kardes....ameen

 

[tesla]

ya vallahi ya biri Ataturke tapar digerleri Muzik dinlemeyelim gunah , der , ya orta yol benim gibi olacan , hem ataturkcu hem muslumanci , hem turkcu , hem insanci hepsi bir

işte dediğim o burdaki kuş beyinliler bunu anlamıyor şerefsizim bu özellikler bizde olsun bütün dünyayı yönetiriz evelallah

 

[Killuminati]

işte dediğim o burdaki kuş beyinliler bunu anlamıyor şerefsizim bu özellikler bizde olsun bütün dünyayı yönetiriz evelallah

Ucmusken biraz daha uc kim bilir ilk astronotumuz sen olursun.

 

[Sashan]

Totally correct , but when you said except in europe i would say excluding europe but turkey way more advanced and modernized than , romania , bulgaria , serbia and the others , i went to Turkiye with car and went past romania , bulgaria , serbia etc , they hardly have motorways , their roads are trash , they are slowly starting to build good roads with their EU cash , even their main citys looked way way behind modernized EU countries e.g germany , france etc

Mate - My intention is "except for few countries in Europe" as I had western Europe countries in mind when I was writing this and many of the Eastern Europe countries are not comparable to Turkey.