War Talk: Could U.S. Forces Execute an Amphibious Assault against Iran?

[skyshadow]

The U.S. does not need to make a beach head to win. As long as they took out most aerial SAM sites, they could do everything from the sky and bomb the shit out of Iran until submission. A pro-Western gov would overthrow the Mullahs after a while. Iranian power would be off in a few days, and there would be lots of civil unrest. Most weapons Iran developed are in case of a ground invasion, their SAMs are using old Soviet tech easily bypassed by EW planes like F-18 Growler. The most Iran could do is strike American allies, thus addint a bigger problem to their worries.

those F_18 that you were talking about, were do they going to fly from, air base???? what air base when they are in flames?


US Air base

Iranian missiles

US air base + 300 Iranian missiles = Air base in flames

sooo let say a aircraft carrier?


US aircraft carrier

Iranian Anti_ship missiles

US aircraft carrier + 200 Iranian missiles = A US aircraft carrier in flames

 

[skyshadow]

The U.S. does not need to make a beach head to win. As long as they took out most aerial SAM sites, they could do everything from the sky and bomb the shit out of Iran until submission. A pro-Western gov would overthrow the Mullahs after a while. Iranian power would be off in a few days, and there would be lots of civil unrest. Most weapons Iran developed are in case of a ground invasion, their SAMs are using old Soviet tech easily bypassed by EW planes like F-18 Growler. The most Iran could do is strike American allies, thus addint a bigger problem to their worries.

and do not get me started on air defense systems as they are Iranian and can be Mass produce in X amount of numbers, so i just say good luck finding them or destroying them.

and that was few options that Iran have to not start a big war just for tit for tat, hit our air defense network and we will sink the aircraft carrier that hit our network, this is tit for tat strategy.

 

[Sineva]

iran's reliance on missiles is a function of incapable air force. i will leave it at that

Did you ever stop to wonder just why it was that the iranians dont seem to be as enamored with air power as everyone else in the region?

 

[Philip the Arab]

those F_18 that you were talking about, were do they going to fly from, air base???? what air base when they are in flames?


US Air base

Iranian missiles

US air base + 300 Iranian missiles = Air base in flames

sooo let say a aircraft carrier?


US aircraft carrier

Iranian Anti_ship missiles

US aircraft carrier + 200 Iranian missiles = A US aircraft carrier in flames

Lol ships have advanced missiles just for this scenario. You don't think the Pentagon has planned this out completely. To say the least Iranian casualties will be 100s of times more especially if you hit Israel. Israel won't hesitate to use nukes regardless of world opinions.

 

[undercover JIX]

seems we will only know when it happens, but how things are just looking like Arms sale need a boost. nothing will happen.

 

[skyshadow]

Lol ships have advanced missiles just for this scenario. You don't think the Pentagon has planned this out completely. To say the least Iranian casualties will be 100s of times more especially if you hit Israel. Israel won't hesitate to use nukes regardless of world opinions.

yes they found a way to not be hit with those hypersonic missiles and that is to not be in the range of them basically to not get close to 1000 km of Iran's shores and this is proven fact as US aircraft carrier is in Arabian sea some 1000 km out of Iran's shores and that's the range that they think Iran missiles can reach as we told them this number, but no, we have longer range missiles too. and im not talking about Israel, Israel is a different problem with a different answer.

 

[nahtanbob]

land invasion on a 80m + large mountainous country with a developed and competenet defense sector.

a military that's prepared for this for decades, and a fanatically united and hostile population that would fight block by block, street by street, inch by inch all the way to Tehran + never ending high intensity insurgency in lost civilian areas, and constant never ending ambushes on wide suppy lines.

if American troops want to get slaughtered on an industrial basis for wahabis and Zionists... they are more then welcome to try. Iran has already dug mass graves for them:

See how merciful Iran is... Iran has even planned to give the dead American troops a proper burial.

Saddam wanted the mother of all battles
Now this ...

 

[Philip the Arab]

yes they found a way to not be hit with those hypersonic missiles and that is to not be in the range of them basically to not get close to 1000 km of Iran's shores and this is proven fact as US aircraft carrier is in Arabian sea some 1000 km out of Iran's shores and that's the range that they think Iran missiles can reach as we told them this number, but no, we have longer range missiles too. and im not talking about Israel, Israel is a different problem with a different answer.

As i said before, you and

land invasion on a 80m + large mountainous country with a developed and competenet defense sector.

a military that's prepared for this for decades, and a fanatically united and hostile population that would fight block by block, street by street, inch by inch all the way to Tehran + never ending high intensity insurgency in lost civilian areas, and constant never ending ambushes on wide suppy lines.

if American troops want to get slaughtered on an industrial basis for wahabis and Zionists... they are more then welcome to try. Iran has already dug mass graves for them:

See how merciful Iran is... Iran has even planned to give the dead American troops a proper burial.

Aerial attack means no need fot troops lol. Even stationing the bases in NATO territory with aerial refuelers would be sufficient. The mullahs would collapse with no power, and no food, leaving a pro-Western gov to take its power. Trust me, the Pentagon has it planned out much better than you, and me.

 

[Mithridates]

yes they found a way to not be hit with those hypersonic missiles and that is to not be in the range of them basically to not get close to 1000 km of Iran's shores and this is proven fact as US aircraft carrier is in Arabian sea some 1000 km out of Iran's shores and that's the range that they think Iran missiles can reach as we told them this number, but no, we have longer range missiles too. and im not talking about Israel, Israel is a different problem with a different answer.

truth is American sailors would shit their pants if they know a Russian fighter jet fired a KH-31 toward them, now imagine a Persian gulf missile with twice that speed and warhead...
only keyboard warriors on PDF can say PG missile is nothing.

Aerial attack means no need fot troops lol. Even stationing the bases in NATO territory with aerial refuelers would be sufficient. The mullahs would collapse with no power, and no food, leaving a pro-Western gov to take its power. Trust me, the Pentagon has it planned out much better than you, and me.

lol we can launch missiles at European bases from Syria, nowhere to hide.

 

[Philip the Arab]

truth is American sailors would shit their pants if they know a Russian fighter jet fired a KH-31 toward them, now imagine a Persian gulf missile with twice that speed and warhead...
only keyboard warriors on PDF can say PG missile is nothing.


lol we can launch missiles at European bases from Syria, nowhere to hide.

And get NATO involved lol?

 

[zartosht]

Saddam wanted the mother of all battles
Now this ...

what do you think is going to happen when American troops try to step foot into Iran? Flowers?

go look up the mosaic doctrine. hundreds of thousands of American troops would perish if they invaded Iran

And get NATO involved lol?

NATO is the USA. All the other countries are irrelevant by comparison... you really think if Iran is in an all out war with the US for its survival, its going to care if a couple of extra british ships enter the Persian gulf to get sunk?

any territory used for aggression against the Iranian homeland will be considered a legitimate target by Iran, and by literally any rules of war/common sense that exists.

otherwise every country could attack someone else from a 3rd parties territory, and pretend that they should be immuned from counter-attacks. its is beyond absurd.

 

[Philip the Arab]

what do you think is going to happen when American troops try to step foot into Iran? Flowers?

go look up the mosaic doctrine. hundreds of thousands of American troops would perish if they invaded Iran

Conventional BMs will never be a deterrent. NBC may be but you have to be willing Iran getting nuked.


NATO is the USA. All the other countries are irrelevant by comparison... you really think if Iran is in an all out war with the US for its survival, its going to care if a couple of extra british ships enter the Persian gulf to get sunk?

any territory used for aggression against the Iranian homeland will be considered a legitimate target by Iran, and by literally any rules of war/common sense that exists.

otherwise every country could attack someone else from a 3rd parties territory, and pretend that they should be immuned from counter-attacks. its is beyond absurd.

You know you would 100% lose with NATO involved right? Do you really want thousands of aircraft bombing your citizens day and night? Your military factories will be gone, your power, your food, your SAMs will be destroyed on SEAD missions and your government will collapse. I'm willing to bet a coup would happen in the first few days.

 

[zartosht]

You know you would 100% lose with NATO involved right? Do you really want thousands of aircraft bombing your citizens day and night? Your military factories will be gone, your power, your food, your SAMs will be destroyed on SEAD missions and your government will collapse. I'm willing to bet a coup would happen in the first few days.

if a "NATO" country allows the use of its terrotiry for direct attacks on Iran. then IRan has no choice. war has already been declared on it. so I don't really see what your argument is?

and secondly what does NATO bring to the table that the US doesn't? If Iran is taking on the full weight of the US military, what exactly is a couple of extra French or british ships/planes going to do?

 

[Philip the Arab]

if a "NATO" country allows the use of its terrotiry for direct attacks on Iran. then IRan has no choice. war has already been declared on it. so I don't really see what your argument is?

and secondly what does NATO bring to the table that the US doesn't? If Iran is taking on the full weight of the US military, what exactly is a couple of extra French or british ships/planes going to do?

Way more staging areas, more ships, more planes, more cruise missiles. Pretty much more everything.
Do you actually believe Iran would come out victorious in a war between Iran and NATO? Even Russian can't.

 

[gambit]

any territory used for aggression against the Iranian homeland will be considered a legitimate target by Iran, and by literally any rules of war/common sense that exists.

otherwise every country could attack someone else from a 3rd parties territory, and pretend that they should be immuned from counter-attacks. its is beyond absurd.

That is true. But by extension of that common sense, Iran could not lob missiles at Israel, which is what Iranians on PDF are advocating, if Israel do nothing in this US-Iran war scenario.