Wahhabism & its Connections with Terrorism..!!!

[American Pakistani]

I hate these kind of fightings, Shias, Sunnis, Sufis, Wahabis...

 

[Bhai Zakir]

Wahhabism is not Islam.

Islam is the religion of peace and self control.

 

[Ostad]

with all respect to our Sunni brothers from SA.all muslims are paying a high price for what wahabies are doing.

 

[al-Hasani]

Once again - Wahhabism is a Western/Shia concept of denouncing Sunni Islam without saying it directly. As I wrote earlier I challenge anyone to show me how the Hanbali fiqh which was the fiqh Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab (ra) followed is against Sunni Islam or Islam by using the Holy Qur'an, ahadith (the SUNNAH of the Prophet Muhammad (saws). This is not possible. And I say this as a Shafi'i which is the fiqh I and my father's family (Al-Hasani of Makkah (sadah) have followed for generations.


I recommend reading this book in English. Anyone with a open heart will one day realize the truth. To blame fanatics who blow themselves up and equal that with Sunni Islam and the codename of that (Wahhabism) is quite frankly very dishonest and a punishment from the most HIgh, Allah (swt) will await those individuals as predicted in the Holy Qur'an and the Sunnah of the Prophet.

Muhammad Ibn 'Abd al-Wahhab: The Man and his Works (Library of Middle East History): Abd Allah Salih al-'Uthaymin: 9781845117917: Amazon.com: Books

Muhammad Ibn 'Abd al-Wahhab: The Man and his Works (Library of Middle East History)

"The Saudi religious reform movement of the 18th and 19th centuries, known in the west as Wahhabism, is one of the most controversial and misunderstood religious movements of the modern Middle East. This biography of its founder, Muhammad Ibn Abd Al-Wahhab, is the first serious English-language account written not from a Western, but an Arabian perspective. Based on exhaustive research of primary sources, Abd-Allah Salih Al-Uthaimin reconstructs the social, political and spiritual environment of the Arabian peninsula in the time of Ibn Abd Al-Wahhab. The author charts this movement's intellectual development and growing sway, and unpicks the historic alliance of its founder with the House of Al-Saud: a uniquely close partnership of political and religious relationships whose legacy is felt in the Saudi state to this day. Al-Uthaimin also provides a detailed exposition and commentary on Ibn Abd Al-Wahhab's doctrines, based on his published and unpublished works, and explains his perspective on concepts such as tawhid, takfir and sharia. This meticulously researched biography offers a unique insight into its complex and often controversial subject. As such, it will become essential reading for anyone interested in political Islam, Saudi Arabia and the modern Middle East."

 

[Patriots]

Abdul wahab A.K.A Najdi is fitna and prophet S.A.W already warn the muslim in hadis mention below

FIRST HADITH


Imam Bukhari (Radiallhu Anhu) quotes this Hadith from Abdullah ibn Umar (Radiallhu Anhu) that the Holy Prophet (Sallal Laahu Alaihi Wasallam) once prayed for Syria (Shaam) and Yemen. It is narrated that there were some people of Najd also present in the gathering and they requested the Prophet (Sallal Laahu Alaihi Wasallam) to make du'a for Najd also. The Holy Prophet (Sallal Laahu Alaihi Wasallam) continued saying: "O! Allah, Shower Blessings on Shaam and Yemen," The people of Najd again requested the Prophet (Sallal Laahu Alaihi Wasallam) to offer prayers for Najd. The Prophet (Sallal Laahu Alaihi Wasallam) said: "It is a place of tremor and Fitna (Mischief) and the horn of Shaitaan will rise from there." (Bukhari Shareef, Vol. ii, PP. 1050)

It can be deduced from the above Hadith that Najd is neither blessed nor a good place but one of Fitna and Evil. Najd has been deprived of the prayers of the Holy Prophet (Sallal Laahu Alaihi Wasallam) and therefore Najd has the seal of misery and misfortune and hoping for any good from there is going against the Will of Allah.

The Arabic word used in the above Hadith is Qarnush Shaitaan, which normally means the horn of Shaitaan. But the 'Misbahul Lughaat', a dictionary printed in Deoband has the following meaning: "One who follows the advice of Shaitaan." (Misbahul Lughaat, pp/663). Thus we learn that a Najdi/Wahhabi group will emerge, as pointed out by Rasoolullah (Sallal Laahu Alaihi Wasallam) and this group will follow the advice of Shaitaan (Shaitaan refuses to respect Prophets and Saints, remember his refusal to bow to Hazrat Adam (Alayhi Salaam) is mentioned in the Quran. It will create havoc in the Muslim world. We are now witnessing the emergence of the Wahhabis who, with the assistance of petrodollars, are sweeping the Muslim world and are bribing them into accepting Wahhabism as the official version of Islam. Wahhabism is a disease but so many are misled into believing that it is curing the Ummah of Shirk, Kufr and Bidah. It is being portrayed as a revivalist movement. This is against the Ahadith. Looking at the geographical position of Najd, it lies to the East of Medina. The Prophet (Sallal Laahu Alaihi Wasallam) pointed towards the East and said:
"There, that is the direction from where Fitna will emerge."

SECOND HADITH

Abdullah bin Umar (Radiallhu Anhu) narrates in Muslim Shareef: "The Holy Prophet (Sallal Laahu Alaihi Wasallam) once emerged from the room of his wife, Hazrat Ayesha (Radiallahu Anha) and pointing towards Najd exclaimed:
'This is the center of Kufr from where the horn of Shaitaan will rise'."
(Muslim Shareef Vol. ii, PP. 1394)

THIRD HADITH
Allama Dahlan narrates an authentic Hadith in his book 'Addarus Sunniah', which he has quoted from Sihaah.


The Holy Prophet (Sallal Laahu Alaihi Wasallam) is reported to have said: "There will rise a group of people in the East who will recite the Holy Quran, but alas, the Quran will not go beyond their throat. This group will keep rising till the Day of Judgment and they will eventually rise with Dajjal. Their main symbol will be to sit in groups (Halqa)."
(Addarus Sunniah, PP. 50)

It should be noted from the above Hadith, that, the center of Kufr and Shaitaan is situated to the East of Medina. You will also note that Najd lies to the East of Medina from where a group of so-called Muslims will recite the Holy Quran but it will not penetrate beyond their throat. They will invite the masses towards the Holy Quran and religion. Now, if you examine the situation carefully, you would observe without any fear of contradiction, that reference is made to no other Group besides the notorious Tableeghi Jamaat whose one end is in Delhi and the other is implanted in Najd (Riyadh).

Rasoolullah (Sallallah O Alaihe Wa Alaihi Wa Sallam) said,
"O Allah bestow your blessings on our Shaam. O Allah bestow your blessings on our Yemen." The people said, "O Messenger of Allah, and our Najd." I think the third time Rasoolullah (Sallallah O Alaihe Wa Alaihi Wa Sallam) said, "There (in Najd) will occur earthquakes, trials and tribulations, and from their appears the Horn of Satan."

Reported in al-Bukhari [Book of Trials, Chpt. 'The afflictions will come from the East' 9/166 no. 214 Eng. Trans]

A Hadith which has some controversy surrounding it due to obvious sectarian reasons. A Hadith which has been (deliberately) misunderstood by certain groups of people in order that they may spread their misguidance and deceive ignorant Muslims.

This because upon research and investigation and looking to the words of our early scholars we find that this Hadith does not refer to the Najd that is famously known in Saudi Arabia today, but rather it refers to Iraq.

Amongst the scholars that are mentioned who referred this Hadith to Iraq were: al-Khattabi, al-Kirmani, al-Aynee, an-Nawawee, ibn Hajr and others. The reasons behind this are numerous and clear:


The Generality of the Hadith Pertaining to the Fitna Coming from the East.

Al-Bukhari includes this Hadith in the chapter: "The affliction will appear from the East"

From the father of Saalim: The Prophet (Sallallah O Alaihe Wa Alaihi Wa Sallam)stood up besides the pulpit (and pointed towards the east) and said: "Afflictions are there! Afflictions are there! From where appears the horn of Satan" or he said," the horn of the Sun"

From ibn Umar that he said: I heard the Messenger of Allah (Sallallah O Alaihe Wa Alaihi Wa Sallam) saying while facing the east: "Indeed Afflictions are there, from where appears the Horn of Satan."

The Hadith of Najd under discussion.

Similar Hadith can be found in Sahih Muslim (volume 4 no. 6938). Hadith that give the same meaning can be found in Sahih Muslim (volume 1 no. 83)

The Generality of the Early Trials and Tribulations arose from the East, many of them actually in Iraq itself.

Ibn Hajr al-Asqalani said after quoting the words of al-Khattabi explaining the meaning of Qarn (horn), "and others have said that the People of the East were disbelievers at that time and the Messenger of Allaah(Sallallah O Alaihe Wa Alaihi Wa Sallam) informed us that the trials and tribulations would arise from that direction and it was as he said. And the first of the trials that arose from the direction of the east and they were the reason for the splitting of the Muslim ranks, and this is what Satan loves and delights in. Likewise the innovations appeared from that direction." [Fath al-Baree 13/58 in commentary to the Hadith of Najd]

Amongst the trials that arose in Iraq and the east was the martyrdom of Alee, the martyrdom of the grandson of the Prophet (Sallallah O Alaihe Wa Alaihi Wa Sallam) the first battle between the Muslims occurred in Iraq, and many more.

Imam Nawawee mentions that one of the greatest trials to appear from the East will be the appearance of the Dajjaal. [Sharah Sahih Muslim 2/29]

From the innovations that appeared in the east and specifically Iraq, was many of the early deviant sects amongst them the Qadariyyah (as the first Hadith in Muslim shows), the Moatezilah, the Jahmiyyah and their offshoots etc...

That at the time of the Prophet (Sallallah O Alaihe Wa Alaihi Wa Sallam) there were 13 places known as Najd [according to 'Najd Qarnu ash-Shaytaan'] depending on where one was. This because Najd linguistically means a raised/elevated land. Therefore the Arabs referred to lands that were elevated with respect to them as Najd. One of the most commonly referred to areas at that time as Najd was Iraq.

The Najd for those people living in Madinah in the direction of the East would be Iraq.

Ibn Hajr said: "al-Khattabi said: 'the najd in the direction of the east, and for the one who is in Madinah then his Najd would be the desert of Iraq and it's regions [baadiya al-Iraaq wa Nawahiha] for this is to the east of the People of Madinah. The basic meaning of Najd is that which is raised/elevated from the earth in contravention to al-Gawr for that is what is lower than it. Tihamah [the coastal plain along the south-western and southern shores of the Arabian Peninsula] is entirely al-Gawr and Mecca is in Tihamah.'"

Ibn Hajr continues, "by this [saying of al-Khattabi] the weakness of the sayings of ad-Daawodi is understood that 'Najd is in the direction of Iraq' [min Naahiya al-Iraq] for he suggests that Najd is a specific place. This is not the case, rather everything that is elevated with respect to what adjoins it is called Najd and the lower area called Gawr." [Fath al-Baree 13/58-59]

Al-Mubarakfuri endorses these words in his commentary to Sunan at-Tirmidhee (10/314 no.4212)

The Hadith in Sahih Muslim [4/1505 no.6943]

Saalim bin Abdullah bin Umar said: O people of Iraq, how strange is it that you ask about the minor sins but commit the major sins? [The killing of al-Husayn] I heard my father, Abdullah bin Umar narrating that he heard the Messenger of Allah (Sallallah O Alaihe Wa Alaihi Wa Sallam) saying while pointing his hand to the east: "Indeed the turmoil would come from this side, from where appear the horns of Satan and you would strike the necks of one another..."


The Variations in Wording of the Hadith of Najd that Leave no Doubt Whatsoever as to what it refers to.

The Hadith of ibn Umar Reported by Abu Nu'aym in al-Hilya (6/133), "O Allah bestow your blessings on our Madinah, and bestow your blessings on our Mecca, and bestow your blessings on our Sham, and bestow your blessings on our Yemen, and bestow your blessings in our measuring (fee saa'inaa wa muddinaa)." A person said, " O Messenger of Allah and in our Iraq" and so he turned away from him and said, "there will occur earthquakes, trials and tribulations and there will appear the horn of Satan."

Shu'ayb al-Arna'ut declares it's isnad to be sahih as in his footnotes to 'Sharah as-Sunnah' (14/206-207 fn. 2) and he too endorses the words of al-Khattabi quoted above.

The Hadith of ibn Umar reported in at-Tabaraanee in 'al-Awsat' that the Messenger of Allah (Sallallah O Alaihe Wa Alaihi Wa Sallam) prayed Fajr and then faced the people and said, "O Allah bestow your blessings on our Madinah, O Allah bestow your blessings in our measuring, O Allah bestow your blessings in our Sham and our Yemen." A person said, "And Iraq O Messenger of Allah?" He said, "from there arises the horn of Satan and the trials and tribulations would come like mounting waves."

Ibn Hajr al-Haythami says in his 'Mujma az-Zawaa'id' (3/305 - chapter 'collection of du'aas made for (Madinah)'): 'its narrators are trustworthy and precise.'

The Hadith of ibn Abbaas reported by at-Tabarani in 'al-Kabeer' that the Prophet (Sallallah O Alaihe Wa Alaihi Wa Sallam) supplicated and said, "O Allah bestow your blessings on our Sham and Yemen." A person from amongst the people said, "O Prophet of Allah and Iraq?" He said, "Indeed there is the Horn of Satan, and the trials and tribulations will come like mounting waves, and indeed harshness/coarseness is in the east."

Al-Haythamee says: "it's narrators are trustworthy and precise." (ibid.)


The Virtues of Bani Tameem

Bani Tameem constitute the majority of the inhabitants of the Najd that is in Saudi Arabia.

The hadeeth of Saheeh Bukhaaree reported by Abu Hurayra (RA): "I have loved the people of the tribe of Bani Tameem, ever since I heard three things the Messenger of (Sallallah O Alaihe Wa Alaihi Wa Sallam) said about them. I heard him saying, 'these people (of the tribe of Bani Tameem) would stand firm against the Dajjaal.' When the Saddaqat from that tribe came, the Messenger of Allaah (Sallallah O Alaihe Wa Alaihi Wa Sallam) said, "these are the Saddaqat (charitable gifts) of our folk." Aa'ishah (RA) had a slave girl from that tribe, and the Prophet , sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam, said to Aa'ishah (RA), 'manumit her as she is a descendant of Ismaa'eel (AS).'"
[Hadith no. 2543, 4366 of al-Fath]


Ibn Hajr al-Asqalani said, "this Hadith also contains a clear mention of the excellence and superiority of Bani Tameem." [Fath 5/217]

The Hadith of Ikrimah from one of the Companions reported in the Musnad of Imaam Ahmad and in it occurs, "do not say of Bani Tameem anything but good, for indeed they are the severest of people in attacking the Dajjaal."

Al-Haythami says: "its narrators are those of the Sahih." [Mujma 10/48 chpt: What is reported concerning Bani Tameem]
It is not strange that Bani Tameem would be the most severe against the Dajjaal, because the tools required to combat him are none but a correct and firm belief and proper beneficial knowledge. Alhumdolillah many of the scholars of Saudia Arabia are from the most noble and skilled scholars on the face of this earth today, firmly upon the way of our noble Messenger (Sallallah O Alaihe Wa Alaihi Wa Sallam).

Abu Said Khudri reported that 'Ali (Allah be pleased with him) sent some gold alloyed with dust to the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him), and the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) distributed that among four men, al-Aqra b. Habis Hanzali and Uyaina b. Badr al-Fazari and 'Alqama b. 'Ulatha al-'Amiri, then to one person of the tribe of Kilab and to Zaid al-Khair al-Ta'l, and then to one person of the tribe of Nabhan. Upon this the people of Quraish felt angry and said: He (the Holy Prophet) gave to the chiefs of Najd and ignored us. Upon this the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said: I have done it with a view to conciliating them. Then there came a person with thick beard, prominent cheeks, deep sunken eyes and protruding forehead and shaven head. He said: Muhammad, fear Allah. Upon this the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said: If I disobey Allah, who would then obey Him? Have I not been (sent as the) most trustworthy among the people of the-world?-but you do not repose trust in me. That person then went back. A person among the people then sought permission (from the Holy Prophet) for his murder. According to some, it was Khalid b. Walid who sought the permission. Upon this the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him),said: From this very person's posterity there would arise people who would recite the Qur'an, but it would not go beyond their throat; they would kill the followers of Islam and would spare the idol-worshippers. They would glance through the teachings of Islam so hurriedly just as the arrow passes through the pray. If I were to ever find them I would kill them like 'Ad. (Sahih Muslim, Book 005, Chapter : Exhortation to kill the Khwarij, Hadith Number 2318)

Here we see that the characteristics of those coming from Najd are that they will kill the followers of Islam and spare the idol worshippers.

Now the anti salafis might argue that the 'wahhabis' killed innocent Muslims but they can in no way argue that they spared the idol worshippers. I mean, the whole Sufi argument is assuming that the 'wahhabis' were extreme in fighting against idol worshippers. But the Hadith says that they spared them. So it cannot be referring to the 'wahhabis'.

This Hadith completely destroys them because the criteria do not match the 'wahhabis' at all.

 

[kalu_miah]

Once again - Wahhabism is a Western/Shia concept of denouncing Sunni Islam without saying it directly. As I wrote earlier I challenge anyone to show me how the Hanbali fiqh which was the fiqh Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab (ra) followed is against Sunni Islam or Islam by using the Holy Qur'an, ahadith (the SUNNAH of the Prophet Muhammad (saws). This is not possible. And I say this as a Shafi'i which is the fiqh I and my father's family (Al-Hasani of Makkah (sadah) have followed for generations.


I recommend reading this book in English. Anyone with a open heart will one day realize the truth. To blame fanatics who blow themselves up and equal that with Sunni Islam and the codename of that (Wahhabism) is quite frankly very dishonest and a punishment from the most HIgh, Allah (swt) will await those individuals as predicted in the Holy Qur'an and the Sunnah of the Prophet.

Muhammad Ibn 'Abd al-Wahhab: The Man and his Works (Library of Middle East History): Abd Allah Salih al-'Uthaymin: 9781845117917: Amazon.com: Books

Muhammad Ibn 'Abd al-Wahhab: The Man and his Works (Library of Middle East History)

"The Saudi religious reform movement of the 18th and 19th centuries, known in the west as Wahhabism, is one of the most controversial and misunderstood religious movements of the modern Middle East. This biography of its founder, Muhammad Ibn Abd Al-Wahhab, is the first serious English-language account written not from a Western, but an Arabian perspective. Based on exhaustive research of primary sources, Abd-Allah Salih Al-Uthaimin reconstructs the social, political and spiritual environment of the Arabian peninsula in the time of Ibn Abd Al-Wahhab. The author charts this movement's intellectual development and growing sway, and unpicks the historic alliance of its founder with the House of Al-Saud: a uniquely close partnership of political and religious relationships whose legacy is felt in the Saudi state to this day. Al-Uthaimin also provides a detailed exposition and commentary on Ibn Abd Al-Wahhab's doctrines, based on his published and unpublished works, and explains his perspective on concepts such as tawhid, takfir and sharia. This meticulously researched biography offers a unique insight into its complex and often controversial subject. As such, it will become essential reading for anyone interested in political Islam, Saudi Arabia and the modern Middle East."

al-Hasani bro, when you have time, I would appreciate if you could please go through this thread and comment:
http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-...slamic-extremism-global-fiqh-council-gfc.html

Thanks.

 

[Patriots]

I respect Saudia too but I don't like people dividing my nation and my citizens in the name of sectarianism which is being done on this thread... what is done is done and you are wahabis, but Wahabism was never native to this land

But our regions are now burning in the fires of terrorism and I don't see anything productive being done by any Wahabi ever for Islam. Also Wahab is a dubious character with a personality that would raise a few eyebrows and if he was alive today the hair on my spine too since he tore baby feotuses and was involved in despicable crimes including rape and murder which he "sanctified". I mean there has to be logic to this support. In our countries we haven't been taught objectivity so what Saud tells you, you simply believe. It is a sad state of affairs. Even in the Siege of Mecca the author noted that Wahabism had a link to terrorism that could not be denied.

We should look at Wahabism critically and begin Ijtehad but Wahabism is against the entire concept. I would advise you to at least be open to debate about it-its just a school of thought and according to reports. A Pew report on World muslim populace revealed that a great number (50%+ view Sufis as heretical) Now those peaceful guys can be seen as heretical and Wahabis can't even be criticized?

@haviZsultan

I didn’t like to talk about sectarianism. This is you who always malign to naming wahhabi wahhabi. I started this thread just because you & your like minded people again n again alleging to true Muslims. This is a knowledgeable thread. I didn’t blame any sect. in title post. I started this thread on 5th February and later I even didn’t open it again nor provoked to anyone. Today your shia fellow had posted nonsense in it.

Actually you are continuously dividing to Muslims each other. Your all threads are prove it.

 

[Mitro]

CONFIRMATION BY MOLWI MASOOD AALAM NADWI
The above Nadwi writes in his well known book "Muhammad Ibne Abdul Wahab" - on the side commentary: "The Southern part of Najd has the famous town of Riyadh, the Capital of his (Wahhabi) headquarters in Dariya. Both these villages are in the valley called Waadi Hanifa (situated in Najd)." (PP. 16)

Allama Dahlan has quoted the following Ahadith from the Sihaah.

The Holy Prophet (Sallal Laahu Alaihi Wasallam) said: "During the initial part of my Dawah in Mecca, I particularly invited the outside tribes who used to arrive during the Hajj season. From these tribes the most hostile and ugly reaction was from the Banu Hanifa tribe" (The same tribe in which Ibné Abdul Wahab was born. He founded Wahhabism which is begin followed by the Tableeghi Jamaat) (Addarus Sunniah, PP. 52)

He quotes a further Hadith, Hazrat Abu Bakr Siddiq (Radiallhu Anhu) reports that the Prophet (Sallal Laahu Alaihi Wasallam) said: "From the tribes that live in Waadi Hanifa, Fitna shall emerge till the final era. That valley shall be notorious for its fitna because of the rise of false leaders." (PP. 52)

Hazrat Imraan, the son of Hazrat Haseen (Radiallhu Anhu) reports:

that the Prophet (Sallal Laahu Alaihi Wasallam) disliked three tribes life long. (1) Banu Saqeef; (2) Banu Hanifa; (3) Banu Umayya. (Tirmizi Shareef)

Rasoolullah (Sallallah O Alaihe Wa Alaihi Wa Sallam) said,
"O Allah bestow your blessings on our Shaam. O Allah bestow your blessings on our Yemen." The people said, "O Messenger of Allah, and our Najd." I think the third time Rasoolullah (Sallallah O Alaihe Wa Alaihi Wa Sallam) said, "There (in Najd) will occur earthquakes, trials and tribulations, and from their appears the Horn of Satan."

Reported in al-Bukhari [Book of Trials, Chpt. 'The afflictions will come from the East' 9/166 no. 214 Eng. Trans]

A Hadith which has some controversy surrounding it due to obvious sectarian reasons. A Hadith which has been (deliberately) misunderstood by certain groups of people in order that they may spread their misguidance and deceive ignorant Muslims.

This because upon research and investigation and looking to the words of our early scholars we find that this Hadith does not refer to the Najd that is famously known in Saudi Arabia today, but rather it refers to Iraq.

Amongst the scholars that are mentioned who referred this Hadith to Iraq were: al-Khattabi, al-Kirmani, al-Aynee, an-Nawawee, ibn Hajr and others. The reasons behind this are numerous and clear:


The Generality of the Hadith Pertaining to the Fitna Coming from the East.

Al-Bukhari includes this Hadith in the chapter: "The affliction will appear from the East"

From the father of Saalim: The Prophet (Sallallah O Alaihe Wa Alaihi Wa Sallam)stood up besides the pulpit (and pointed towards the east) and said: "Afflictions are there! Afflictions are there! From where appears the horn of Satan" or he said," the horn of the Sun"

From ibn Umar that he said: I heard the Messenger of Allah (Sallallah O Alaihe Wa Alaihi Wa Sallam) saying while facing the east: "Indeed Afflictions are there, from where appears the Horn of Satan."

The Hadith of Najd under discussion.

Similar Hadith can be found in Sahih Muslim (volume 4 no. 6938). Hadith that give the same meaning can be found in Sahih Muslim (volume 1 no. 83)

The Generality of the Early Trials and Tribulations arose from the East, many of them actually in Iraq itself.

Ibn Hajr al-Asqalani said after quoting the words of al-Khattabi explaining the meaning of Qarn (horn), "and others have said that the People of the East were disbelievers at that time and the Messenger of Allaah(Sallallah O Alaihe Wa Alaihi Wa Sallam) informed us that the trials and tribulations would arise from that direction and it was as he said. And the first of the trials that arose from the direction of the east and they were the reason for the splitting of the Muslim ranks, and this is what Satan loves and delights in. Likewise the innovations appeared from that direction." [Fath al-Baree 13/58 in commentary to the Hadith of Najd]

Amongst the trials that arose in Iraq and the east was the martyrdom of Alee, the martyrdom of the grandson of the Prophet (Sallallah O Alaihe Wa Alaihi Wa Sallam) the first battle between the Muslims occurred in Iraq, and many more.

Imam Nawawee mentions that one of the greatest trials to appear from the East will be the appearance of the Dajjaal. [Sharah Sahih Muslim 2/29]

From the innovations that appeared in the east and specifically Iraq, was many of the early deviant sects amongst them the Qadariyyah (as the first Hadith in Muslim shows), the Moatezilah, the Jahmiyyah and their offshoots etc...

That at the time of the Prophet (Sallallah O Alaihe Wa Alaihi Wa Sallam) there were 13 places known as Najd [according to 'Najd Qarnu ash-Shaytaan'] depending on where one was. This because Najd linguistically means a raised/elevated land. Therefore the Arabs referred to lands that were elevated with respect to them as Najd. One of the most commonly referred to areas at that time as Najd was Iraq.

The Najd for those people living in Madinah in the direction of the East would be Iraq.

Ibn Hajr said: "al-Khattabi said: 'the najd in the direction of the east, and for the one who is in Madinah then his Najd would be the desert of Iraq and it's regions [baadiya al-Iraaq wa Nawahiha] for this is to the east of the People of Madinah. The basic meaning of Najd is that which is raised/elevated from the earth in contravention to al-Gawr for that is what is lower than it. Tihamah [the coastal plain along the south-western and southern shores of the Arabian Peninsula] is entirely al-Gawr and Mecca is in Tihamah.'"

Ibn Hajr continues, "by this [saying of al-Khattabi] the weakness of the sayings of ad-Daawodi is understood that 'Najd is in the direction of Iraq' [min Naahiya al-Iraq] for he suggests that Najd is a specific place. This is not the case, rather everything that is elevated with respect to what adjoins it is called Najd and the lower area called Gawr." [Fath al-Baree 13/58-59]

Al-Mubarakfuri endorses these words in his commentary to Sunan at-Tirmidhee (10/314 no.4212)

The Hadith in Sahih Muslim [4/1505 no.6943]

Saalim bin Abdullah bin Umar said: O people of Iraq, how strange is it that you ask about the minor sins but commit the major sins? [The killing of al-Husayn] I heard my father, Abdullah bin Umar narrating that he heard the Messenger of Allah (Sallallah O Alaihe Wa Alaihi Wa Sallam) saying while pointing his hand to the east: "Indeed the turmoil would come from this side, from where appear the horns of Satan and you would strike the necks of one another..."


The Variations in Wording of the Hadith of Najd that Leave no Doubt Whatsoever as to what it refers to.

The Hadith of ibn Umar Reported by Abu Nu'aym in al-Hilya (6/133), "O Allah bestow your blessings on our Madinah, and bestow your blessings on our Mecca, and bestow your blessings on our Sham, and bestow your blessings on our Yemen, and bestow your blessings in our measuring (fee saa'inaa wa muddinaa)." A person said, " O Messenger of Allah and in our Iraq" and so he turned away from him and said, "there will occur earthquakes, trials and tribulations and there will appear the horn of Satan."

Shu'ayb al-Arna'ut declares it's isnad to be sahih as in his footnotes to 'Sharah as-Sunnah' (14/206-207 fn. 2) and he too endorses the words of al-Khattabi quoted above.

The Hadith of ibn Umar reported in at-Tabaraanee in 'al-Awsat' that the Messenger of Allah (Sallallah O Alaihe Wa Alaihi Wa Sallam) prayed Fajr and then faced the people and said, "O Allah bestow your blessings on our Madinah, O Allah bestow your blessings in our measuring, O Allah bestow your blessings in our Sham and our Yemen." A person said, "And Iraq O Messenger of Allah?" He said, "from there arises the horn of Satan and the trials and tribulations would come like mounting waves."

Ibn Hajr al-Haythami says in his 'Mujma az-Zawaa'id' (3/305 - chapter 'collection of du'aas made for (Madinah)'): 'its narrators are trustworthy and precise.'

The Hadith of ibn Abbaas reported by at-Tabarani in 'al-Kabeer' that the Prophet (Sallallah O Alaihe Wa Alaihi Wa Sallam) supplicated and said, "O Allah bestow your blessings on our Sham and Yemen." A person from amongst the people said, "O Prophet of Allah and Iraq?" He said, "Indeed there is the Horn of Satan, and the trials and tribulations will come like mounting waves, and indeed harshness/coarseness is in the east."

Al-Haythamee says: "it's narrators are trustworthy and precise." (ibid.)


The Virtues of Bani Tameem

Bani Tameem constitute the majority of the inhabitants of the Najd that is in Saudi Arabia.

The hadeeth of Saheeh Bukhaaree reported by Abu Hurayra (RA): "I have loved the people of the tribe of Bani Tameem, ever since I heard three things the Messenger of (Sallallah O Alaihe Wa Alaihi Wa Sallam) said about them. I heard him saying, 'these people (of the tribe of Bani Tameem) would stand firm against the Dajjaal.' When the Saddaqat from that tribe came, the Messenger of Allaah (Sallallah O Alaihe Wa Alaihi Wa Sallam) said, "these are the Saddaqat (charitable gifts) of our folk." Aa'ishah (RA) had a slave girl from that tribe, and the Prophet , sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam, said to Aa'ishah (RA), 'manumit her as she is a descendant of Ismaa'eel (AS).'"
[Hadith no. 2543, 4366 of al-Fath]


Ibn Hajr al-Asqalani said, "this Hadith also contains a clear mention of the excellence and superiority of Bani Tameem." [Fath 5/217]

The Hadith of Ikrimah from one of the Companions reported in the Musnad of Imaam Ahmad and in it occurs, "do not say of Bani Tameem anything but good, for indeed they are the severest of people in attacking the Dajjaal."

Al-Haythami says: "its narrators are those of the Sahih." [Mujma 10/48 chpt: What is reported concerning Bani Tameem]
It is not strange that Bani Tameem would be the most severe against the Dajjaal, because the tools required to combat him are none but a correct and firm belief and proper beneficial knowledge. Alhumdolillah many of the scholars of Saudia Arabia are from the most noble and skilled scholars on the face of this earth today, firmly upon the way of our noble Messenger (Sallallah O Alaihe Wa Alaihi Wa Sallam).

Abu Said Khudri reported that 'Ali (Allah be pleased with him) sent some gold alloyed with dust to the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him), and the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) distributed that among four men, al-Aqra b. Habis Hanzali and Uyaina b. Badr al-Fazari and 'Alqama b. 'Ulatha al-'Amiri, then to one person of the tribe of Kilab and to Zaid al-Khair al-Ta'l, and then to one person of the tribe of Nabhan. Upon this the people of Quraish felt angry and said: He (the Holy Prophet) gave to the chiefs of Najd and ignored us. Upon this the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said: I have done it with a view to conciliating them. Then there came a person with thick beard, prominent cheeks, deep sunken eyes and protruding forehead and shaven head. He said: Muhammad, fear Allah. Upon this the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him) said: If I disobey Allah, who would then obey Him? Have I not been (sent as the) most trustworthy among the people of the-world?-but you do not repose trust in me. That person then went back. A person among the people then sought permission (from the Holy Prophet) for his murder. According to some, it was Khalid b. Walid who sought the permission. Upon this the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him),said: From this very person's posterity there would arise people who would recite the Qur'an, but it would not go beyond their throat; they would kill the followers of Islam and would spare the idol-worshippers. They would glance through the teachings of Islam so hurriedly just as the arrow passes through the pray. If I were to ever find them I would kill them like 'Ad. (Sahih Muslim, Book 005, Chapter : Exhortation to kill the Khwarij, Hadith Number 2318)

Here we see that the characteristics of those coming from Najd are that they will kill the followers of Islam and spare the idol worshippers.

Now the anti salafis might argue that the 'wahhabis' killed innocent Muslims but they can in no way argue that they spared the idol worshippers. I mean, the whole Sufi argument is assuming that the 'wahhabis' were extreme in fighting against idol worshippers. But the Hadith says that they spared them. So it cannot be referring to the 'wahhabis'.

This Hadith completely destroys them because the criteria do not match the 'wahhabis' at all.

 

[al-Hasani]

@haviZsultan

I didn’t like to talk about sectarianism. This is you who always malign to naming wahhabi wahhabi. I started this thread just because you & your like minded people again n again alleging to true Muslims. This is a knowledgeable thread. I didn’t blame any sect. in title post. I started this thread on 5th February and later I even didn’t open it again nor provoked to anyone. Today your shia fellow had posted nonsense in it.

Actually you are continuously dividing to Muslims each other. Your all threads are prove it.

Brother, don't waste your time with him. I like to do my research with everything and when I see a idiot and liar I suspect that same individual to have been engaged in similar behavior somewhere else. And rightly so, this haviZsultan was proven to be a serial liar on another forum if you google his name. They are identical. I made my homework when it comes to this.

This will expose him on this forum and forever tarnish his credibility but someone has to do it. Look at the thread below:

http://www.******************/hujra-12/news-update-haviz-sultan-desendant-pashtun-34387/

So yeah, let him bark. The guy speaks NO Arabic whatsoever. Probably all of his information regarding Islam comes from English sources and we all know that you could turn out as a lunatic if you followed Islam through the internet given all the different agendas/wrong translations, different interpretations etc. When I want to understand a book I need to read and understand it in the original language if possible. I mean this guy and those who support him are unable to answer our simple questions. I mean people who claim Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab (not his real name - his surname was al-Tamimi a very common Najdi tribe in Saudi Arabia, Iraq and elsewhere) to be the reincarnation of the shayatin should surely be able to point out such simple things and use the Holy Qur'an (which all Muslims follow regardless of sect) and the Sunnah of the Prophet Muhammad (saws).

Anyway this is not the people nor the forum to discuss such things since it is expected that most people are unaware of this.

Also all the accusations of British cooperation, LOL, is pure nonsense. Saudi Arabia was never under British rule unlike certain other countries and they never got a foothold in Saudi Arabia. Certainly not from year 1703-1792. Simple as that.

 

[al-Hasani]

CONFIRMATION BY MOLWI MASOOD AALAM NADWI
The above Nadwi writes in his well known book "Muhammad Ibne Abdul Wahab" - on the side commentary: "The Southern part of Najd has the famous town of Riyadh, the Capital of his (Wahhabi) headquarters in Dariya. Both these villages are in the valley called Waadi Hanifa (situated in Najd)." (PP. 16)

Allama Dahlan has quoted the following Ahadith from the Sihaah.

The Holy Prophet (Sallal Laahu Alaihi Wasallam) said: "During the initial part of my Dawah in Mecca, I particularly invited the outside tribes who used to arrive during the Hajj season. From these tribes the most hostile and ugly reaction was from the Banu Hanifa tribe" (The same tribe in which Ibné Abdul Wahab was born. He founded Wahhabism which is begin followed by the Tableeghi Jamaat) (Addarus Sunniah, PP. 52)

He quotes a further Hadith, Hazrat Abu Bakr Siddiq (Radiallhu Anhu) reports that the Prophet (Sallal Laahu Alaihi Wasallam) said: "From the tribes that live in Waadi Hanifa, Fitna shall emerge till the final era. That valley shall be notorious for its fitna because of the rise of false leaders." (PP. 52)

Hazrat Imraan, the son of Hazrat Haseen (Radiallhu Anhu) reports:

that the Prophet (Sallal Laahu Alaihi Wasallam) disliked three tribes life long. (1) Banu Saqeef; (2) Banu Hanifa; (3) Banu Umayya. (Tirmizi Shareef)

COMPLETE NONSENSE yet again. I read the first two lines and stopped reading after this so-called author claimed that Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab belonged to the Banu Hanifa tribe which is a BLATANT lie since he belonged to the BANU TAMIM tribe and every single source confirm this. We are talking about a scholar who has thousands of descendants in not only KSA but also Iraq where the Banu Tamim tribe is strong as well.

Simple - cut the nonsense if you don't want to be exposed. And why don't you use Arabic sources and not some English made up sources? Have you never learnt to use primary sources in school? You don't use Latin literature as the best possible source to understand Pakistani society - do you?

Such tactics will not work against Arabs or any informed Muslim or individual.

 

[al-Hasani]

al-Hasani bro, when you have time, I would appreciate if you could please go through this thread and comment:
http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-...slamic-extremism-global-fiqh-council-gfc.html

Thanks.

I will gladly take a look. No problem at all but I am no authority of any short and I am still very young so don't expect the second coming, LOL. Anyway just by looking at that title of the thread I am expecting a lot of ignorance and "we know it better than you Arabs yourself" attitude so it might be a battle from the start. Much like this thread is.

 

[Mitro]

FOURTH HADITH
It is reported in Mishkat from Hazrat Abu Said Khudri (Radiallhu Anhu) who narrates that:

"Once we were in the presence and company of the Holy Prophet (Sallal Laahu Alaihi Wasallam). He was distributing booties (Spoils of War) when a person named Zul-Khawaisara, who was from the tribe of Bani Tamim addressed the Holy Prophet (Sallal Laahu Alaihi Wasallam) "Oh Muhammad Be Just!" ". The Prophet (Sallal Laahu Alaihi Wasallam) replied: "A Great pity that you have doubts, if I am unjust then who will be just, you are a loser and a failure." Zul-Khawaisara's attitude infuriated Hazrat Umar (Radiallhu Anhu) and he pleaded with the Prophet (Sallal Laahu Alaihi Wasallam) to permit him to slay Zul-Khawaisara. The Prophet (Sallal Laahu Alaihi Wasallam) remarked: "Leave him, as his slaying will serve no good purpose, as he is not the only individual but there are a host of others like him and if you compare their prayers and fasting to that of yours, you yourself will feel ashamed. These are the people who will recite the Quran but it will not go beyond their throats, with all these apparent virtues they will leave the fold of Deen just like the arrow leaves the bow." (Miskhat Shareef, PP. 535)

FIFTH HADITH
The previous Hadith has also been narrated as follows: "A person with eyes protruding, with a long beard and head clean-shaven came to the Prophet (Sallal Laahu Alaihi Wasallam) and declared: 'O Muhammad! (Sallal Laahu Alaihi Wasallam) fear Allah. "' The Prophet(Sallal Laahu Alaihi Wasallam) replied: "If I disobey Allah, then who else will obey Him? I am obedient to Allah at all times and never disobedient. Allah has sent me as Amin(Honest for the entire world, but you don't accept me as an honest man?' A Sahabi (Companion) became infuriated and sought permission to remove him from the presence of the Prophet (Sallal Laahu Alaihi Wasallam). The Prophet (Sallal Laahu Alaihi Wasallam) prevented the Sahabi from doing so After the person had left, the Holy Prophet (Sallal Laahu Alaihi Wasallam) said: "From his progeny will rise a Group who will recite the Holy Quran but it will not go below their throats. They will leave the Deen just as an arrow leaves the bowstring. They will kill the Muslims but spar the idolaters. If I ever confronted these people I would slaughter them just as the people of Aad had been destroyed" (Mishkat Shareef, pp/535)

SIXTH HADITH
Shareekh Ibn Shihab (Radiallhu Anhu) also narrates a similar incident of a person who displayed disrespect towards the Holy Prophet (Sallal Laahu Alaihi Wasallam). He states the Prophet(Sallal Laahu Alaihi Wasallam) said "Nearing Qiyamah there will be a Group of people who will recite the Holy Quran but it will not go below their throats. They will leave the true Religion of Islam as fast as an arrow leaves the bow. They will be recognized by the shavings of their entire head and they will move in Groups and their last Group will emerge with Dajjal, when you meet them you will discover their nature and character, the worst of its kind." (Mishkat pp/309 - Prints may vary and pages may be different in other publications) The aforementioned Hadith are the words of a Great and Noble Prophet of Allah (Sallal Laahu Alaihi Wasallam) who is the possessor of Unseen Knowledge, who knows the signs and the secrets of the future. All Praise is due to Allah, that we do not have to search far for this Group, as the Prophet(Sallal Laahu Alaihi Wasallam) has mentioned the different signs of this notorious Group, so we are able to detect our enemies without difficulty.

Another sign mentioned in recognizing this particular Group is that they will be so punctual and devoted to their Salaat, that one will feel ashamed of ones own Salaat compared to theirs. It is obvious that these qualities are prevalent amongst the Tableegh Jamaat. For example, you will agree that there are thousands of individuals, nay, many millions of individuals that are performing Salaat for a period of over 40 to 50 years, an yet, they do not possess a sign on their forehead (sign of Sajda) whereas, very surprisingly, the devotees of the Tableeghi Jamaat get the mark of Sajda on their forehead within a few weeks! The reason for this is very clear, they deliberately press and rub their foreheads on the mussallah to obtain the much coveted mark. This is to display to the Muslims, their so-called piousness. An other sign of this Group is that they will consider all other persons as being inferior to them and even those of high standing-in society are looked down upon by them. The most glaring sign of recognizing these people is their constant attempts in degrading the Prophets and Aulia (Prophets and Saints) of Allah.

These signs are prevalent amongst the Tableeghi Jamaat. They look down upon all Sunni Muslims who are, without any doubt, true and devout Muslims. They openly challenge the Ulema and Imams. They engage in discussions and arguments on matter which they themselves do not understand and yet they have the audacity to degrade the status and the Glory of the Holy Prophet (Sallal Laahu Alaihi Wasallam).

In the fifth Hadith it is mentioned that another sign of this notorious Group is that they will shed the blood of fellow Muslims and will have no dispute whatsoever, with the' idolaters. This glaring sign is also present in the present Tableeghi Jamaat. You have often witnessed or heard that in certain Masjid the Tableeghi Jamaat had a dispute or in a certain Masjid the Tableeghi Jamaat had come with sticks, chains, knives, etc. You have also noticed that when and wherever they fight it is always with the Muslims and not with the Kafirs and Mushriks (Polytheists). You may have also noticed that when or wherever they confront the Kafirs or Mushriks, which is seldom or never, they tug their tails between their legs and run. This is true in India, during Hindu Muslim Riots.

In the sixth Hadith it was mentioned that a peculiar sign of this Group will be the shaving of their head completely. This act is now reckoned to be its sign and emblem as such they advise their followers and Mureeds (Disciples) to also shave their heads and therefore you will notice that most of them are bald.

A STRANGE FACT
The Arabic word Thaleeq (Shaving) as used in the Ahadith must be taken into consideration. The common translation of the word Thaleeq is clean-shaving of the entire head. The Deoband scholars in Misbahul Lughat - page-148 give its meaning as 'to turn around and sit in a circle'. This translation fits like a glove with the Movement of the Tableeghi Jamaat, one translation is regarding them moving around and the other indicating their sitting in circles in Masjids and doing Kitab-reading as a splinter group detached from the other Musallies. They cut across the Imam and display a defying attitude. They never read the Quran. They love the Kitab written by Molvi Zakariya. They will never participate in Khatamul Quran organized in Mosques on certain nights or auspicious nights. If the Imam is delivering Tafseerul Quran, or Darse Hadith or fiqah lessons or even Zikrullah, these people never take part, as if they are super Muslims and everybody else is 3rd grade! These Tableeghis are programmed internationally to behave in this manner. It is not peculiar to any one country. This is the global strategy to destabilize the Muslims The anti-Muslim West has realized that they cannot break the Muslims from outside. They will have to use a group of hypocrites, who will use Western financial resources, and creep into Muslim society, systematically dismantling them and fragmenting them. Remember, all this is done in the name of establishing the Sunnah and "The Mubarak Tareeqa" of our Beloved Rasoolullah(Sallal Laahu Alaihi Wasallam), as claimed by them!

Hazrat Abu Saeed Khudri (Radiallhu Anhu) and Hazrat Anas (Radiallhu Anhu) report that the Holy Prophet (Sallal Laahu Alaihi Wasallam) stated: "My Ummat is destined to differ and be divided. So a group will arise whose talks will sound very good but their character will be misleading. They will read the Quran but it will not descend below their throats (just oral reading). They will leave Deen just as an arrow pierces and goes right through the prey. They will not return to Islam. They are the worst of creation because of their nature and constitution. They will call the people towards the Quran and Deen whilst in reality they will have nothing to do with Islam. Whoever will confront them, he will be the most beloved servant of Allah. The Sahaba inquired: "Ya Rasoolullah, (Sallal Laahu Alaihi Wasallam) what is their sign?" He replied: "Sitting in a Halqa (circle)."(Mishkat Shareef, pp/308)

SEVENTH HADITH
Hazrat Ali (Radiallhu Anhu) once narrated: "I swear by Allah that to fall from the sky to the Earth is very simple for me, but to utter one false word in reference to the Holy Prophet (Sallal Laahu Alaihi Wasallam) is a very difficult and impossible task for me."

Hazrat Ali(Radiallhu Anhu) then narrated as follows:

"I heard the Holy Prophet (Sallal Laahu Alaihi Wasallam) as saying that as the Day of Qiyamah approaches there will appear a group of youths with a low mental capacity and understanding, apparently they will talk of good but their Imaan will not go beyond their throat and they will leave the true Deen like an arrow leaves the prey. Wherever you find them, you should make Jihaad with them. (Bukhari Shareef, pp/1024)

EIGHTH HADITH
The following Hadith is reported by Hazrat Abu Naim (Radiallhu Anhu) in his book entitled 'Huliya'. Hazrat Abu Umana Bahili (Radiallah Anhu) narrates that the Holy Prophet (Sallal Laahu Alaihi Wasallam) said "Before the Day of Qiyamah, they (Tableeghi Jamaat) will spread and attack bitterly like the small and the large insects and whosoever witnesses this period must seek refuge in Allah." (Huliya)

Hazrat Hassan Basri (Radiallhu Anhu) narrated the following Hadith, "The Holy Prophet (Sallal Laahu Alaihi Wasallam) said that there will come a time when people will speak of worldly affairs in the Masjid and when this period arrives, keep away from such people as Allah has no relation with them." (Mishkaat)

In the previous Hadith, above, it is stated about this Group, that it will consist of youths of low mental capacity and understanding. If one desires to confirm this sign then one has to go to their Ijtima (as an observer) and one would find people of both these categories. You will also notice that a great number of ignorant people joining the Tableeghi Jamaat with the idea in mind that they are doing a great service to Islam. You will also find a group of little children from schools, colleges, madressas and the general public who without thinking or understanding join the Tableeghi Jamaat in the belief that they are rendering a religious service. These innocent, simple-minded individuals unwittingly become target of their deception and fraud. Thus, many youth and unwary persons have unconsciously joined the Tableeghi Jamaat due to their misleading tactics. In the eighth Hadith it is stated that before Doomsday the 'Mullahs' will multiply like the insects and the Masjids will be turned into a village pavilions or rural clubs. It is apparent from observation and experience that the Tableeghi Jamaat is a living picture of this Prophecy. There are a great number of individuals, who by merely reading a few pages of the "Tableeghi Nisab" (Teachings of Islam), automatically become Moulvies and Alims. These so-called Mullahs now utter disrespect and disregard for the Great Ulema, who have spent the best and greater part of their lives in attaining Islamic Knowledge at reputed colleges and Universities, here and abroad.

The state of Masjids has now become the center of various activities besides a place of Worship. These gypsies (Tableeghi Jamaat members) have transformed the Masjid into a hostel, with canteen and sleeping hall and engage in other worldly affairs. This disgraceful and tormenting attitude towards the Masjid is both shocking and disheartening.

NINTH HADITH
Sayed Allama Dahlan (Rahmatullahi Alaihi) quotes in his book 'Addarus Sunnia' an authentic Hadith of the Holy Prophet (Sallal Laahu Alaihi Wasallam) which states:

"There will be a Group of people emerging from the East who will recite the Holy Quran but it will not go down their throats. They will leave the folds of Islam like an arrow leaves the bow never to return. A feature to recognize this Group is that their heads would be shaven clean." (Addarus Sunnia, PP. 49)

From the above Hadith it will be noted that since they deviate from the truth it is impossible for them to return to the Right Path. This Hadith could be put to a simple test by yourself, for the sake of confirmation of your doubts, if any, then confront a staunch follower of the Tableeghi Jamaat and try and influence him a thousand times and try t rid him of his false belief and not to associate with those who degrade the Prophet (Sallal Laahu Alaihi Wasallam) and to believe in the true status of the Aulia Allah's (Saints). Surprisingly, you will note that your attempts and confrontation will fall on deaf ears and they will neither return t the truth nor will they try to reason and see the truth. Muhaddith Kabir Imam Abu Ya'la (Rahmatullahi Alaihi) narrates a Hadith from Hazrat Anas bin Malik(Radiallhu Anhu) and the Author of 'lbriz' who states:
"Hazrat Anas Bin Malik (Radiallhu Anhu) narrates that in Medina, there lived a very pious youngster. One day we made reference about this youngster to the Holy Prophet(Sallal Laahu Alaihi Wasallam). Inspite of the Sahaba describing the youngster's features and character to the Prophet (Sallal Laahu Alaihi Wasallam), the Prophet (Sallal Laahu Alaihi Wasallam) was unable to recognize the youngster made mention of. However, a few days later, whilst we were in the company of the Holy Prophet (Sallal Laahu Alaihi Wasallam), the young man passed that way. On seeing the young man, the Prophet (Sallal Laahu Alaihi Wasallam) exclaimed: 'I see the scabs of Shaitaan imprinted on his face. The youngster then approached the Prophet (Sallal Laahu Alaihi Wasallam) and made salutation. The Holy Prophet (Sallal Laahu Alaihi Wasallam) then said to him:'Is it not true that right now you are thinking that there is no one better than yourself here, 'The youngster then replied: 'Yes, these thoughts did pass my mind.'He then walked away into the Masjid. The Prophet then inquired as to who will kill this person. Hazrat Abu Bakr(Radiallhu Anhu) volunteered to do so and entered the Masjid and saw the person he was to kill engrossed in performing his Salaat and he remembered a Hadith of the Holy Prophet (Sallal Laahu Alaihi Wasallam) which prohibited one from killing a person who is performing his Salaat and returned to the Prophet (Sallal Laahu Alaihi Wasallam).

The Prophet (Sallal Laahu Alaihi Wasallam) again inquired as to who will kill the youngster, this time Hazrat Umar (Radiallhu Anhu) volunteered to kill him and entered the Masjid and found the youngster performing his Sajda and with the same thoughts as Hazrat Abu Bakr (Radiallhu Anhu), Hazrat Umar (Radiallhu Anhu) returned to the Prophet (Sallal Laahu Alaihi Wasallam). For the third time the Prophet (Sallal Laahu Alaihi Wasallam) again inquired who will kill the youngster, this time Hazrat Ali (Radiallhu Anhu) volunteered to do so, the Prophet (Sallal Laahu Alaihi Wasallam) said:'You will surely kill him, if you find him.'

When Hazrat Ali entered the Masjid, he was surprised to see that the youngster was no longer in the Masjid and he too like the others returned to the Prophet (Sallal Laahu Alaihi Wasallam). The Holy Prophet (Sallal Laahu Alaihi Wasallam) said: 'If you had only killed him then all the Fitna in my Ummah till Day of Qiyamah would have been wiped out and no two persons in my Ummah would have fought between themselves." (Ibreez Shareef, pp/277, Author Allama Shah Abdul Aziz Dabbaag (Rahmatullahi Alaihi)). The Holy Prophet (Sallal Laahu Alaihi Wasallam) informed the Sahaba (Companions) that among my Ummah will rise a Group of people who will recite the Quran, invite to good talks, will be punctual for their Salaat and will be mindful of their fasting, yet they will have no relation with Islam. With this confusion in their minds the Sahaba asked the Prophet (Sallal Laahu Alaihi Wasallam) to forecast a sign to recognize this particular Group of people. The Prophet (Sallal Laahu Alaihi Wasallam) replied that their head will be shaven clean or sitting in circles.

Let us all fervently pray to Almighty Allah, with the Grace and Blessings of the Holy Prophet (Sallal Laahu Alaihi Wasallam) that Allah grants protection to all true Muslims from this false an astrayed Sect. I invite you to be impartial and ask yourself one question. Where is that group which the Holy Prophet (Sallal Laahu Alaihi Wasallam) described so vividly in so many Ahadith? Is it so difficult to pinpoint them? Surely these prophetic statements are a pen-portrait of the Tableeghi Jamaat.

SUMMARY OF AHADITH
Zul Khuwaisra - the man who showed so much disrespect to the Prophet (Sallal Laahu Alaihi Wasallam) was from the tribe of Bani Tamim. The Prophet (Sallal Laahu Alaihi Wasallam) foretold that the Wahhabi group who will cause much fitna, will be the off-springs of the above Munaafiq. Allama Dahlaan, the celebrated Historian of our era writes: "Zul Khuwaira was of the Banu Tamim tribe and so was Ibne Abdul Wahab Najdi." (Addarus Sunniah, pp/51). These Ahadith certainly do not fit the Kharajees because they were not the off-springs of Bani Tamim. Shah Abdul Haq the great Muhaddis of Delhi writes: "The Kharajees were not the descendants of Zul Khuwaisra." (Ashatul Lamaat, Commentary on Mishkat pp/535)

Moulana Muhammad Ali Jauhar has made the following observations about the Wahhabi Najdi Jamaat: "The hands of Najd and Najdis are red with the blood of Muslims, this is their only achievement. Now too, there are hostilities with the Yemenis and a war is looming." (Maqaalaate Muhammad Ali, Part 1,PP. 37)

Here we see that the characteristics of those coming from Najd are that they will kill the followers of Islam and spare the idol worshippers.

Now the anti salafis might argue that the 'wahhabis' killed innocent Muslims but they can in no way argue that they spared the idol worshippers. I mean, the whole Sufi argument is assuming that the 'wahhabis' were extreme in fighting against idol worshippers. But the Hadith says that they spared them. So it cannot be referring to the 'wahhabis'.

This Hadith completely destroys them because the criteria do not match the 'wahhabis' at all.

If You see Wahabi's only kill innocent muslim not idol worshipper i.e Libya ,Syria,pakistan,yemen and chechnya they kill innocent muslim only because they don't follow their doctrine .they destroy mosque ,library and school,.wahabi are brain wash terrorist who blow up himself killing innocent people children,woman and old people which are protected in islam in war also so they are
doing every thing against islam .

 

[al-Hasani]

Seriously who is willing to read long paragraphs written by Shia non-Arabic speakers who are anti-Arab/anti-Sunni which false information from the start to the beginning?

I already refuted one simple information in a few seconds in one of this Czar786's quotes.

Hilarious stuff, LOL. And the sheep who follow him are unable to answer simple questions let alone find primary sources in Arabic. When they do I will gladly participate in a serious discussion about the teachings of Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab in either Arabic or English. And that as a non-Hanbali fiqh follower but one who follows the Shafi'i fiqh.

Until then let them bark and make anti-Sunni posts.

 

[Patriots]

Brother, don't waste your time with him. I like to do my research with everything and when I see a idiot and liar I suspect that same individual to have been engaged in similar behavior somewhere else. And rightly so, this haviZsultan was proven to be a serial liar on another forum if you google his name. They are identical. I made my homework when it comes to this.

This will expose him on this forum and forever tarnish his credibility but someone has to do it. Look at the thread below:

http://www.******************/hujra-12/news-update-haviz-sultan-desendant-pashtun-34387/

So yeah, let him bark. The guy speaks NO Arabic whatsoever. Probably all of his information regarding Islam comes from English sources and we all know that you could turn out as a lunatic if you followed Islam through the internet given all the different agendas/wrong translations, different interpretations etc. When I want to understand a book I need to read and understand it in the original language if possible. I mean this guy and those who support him are unable to answer our simple questions. I mean people who claim Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab (not his real name - his surname was al-Tamimi a very common Najdi tribe in Saudi Arabia, Iraq and elsewhere) to be the reincarnation of the shayatin should surely be able to point out such simple things and use the Holy Qur'an (which all Muslims follow regardless of sect) and the Sunnah of the Prophet Muhammad (saws).

Anyway this is not the people nor the forum to discuss such things since it is expected that most people are unaware of this.

Also all the accusations of British cooperation, LOL, is pure nonsense. Saudi Arabia was never under British rule unlike certain other countries and they never got a foothold in Saudi Arabia. Certainly not from year 1703-1792. Simple as that.

Actually this guy is moatazilli

 

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The subject of discussion is wahhabism not shiaism, but many followers from both dogma went extreme.

Lets respectfully ask those who say there is no wahhabism then why is the term wide spread being used by saudis for themselves. Alright lets minus wahhabism...why do saudis call themselves "SALAFIS" which again leads to a sect.

I challenge every person on this thread or outsider to come forth authentic Hadith and any evidence where Prophet Muhammad P.B.U.H every said he is salafi, hanbali, hanafi, jaffery, maliki, shafi'i and on and on or he ever gave an indirect message that in the future some men will form "The Schools of Thought" follow and turn it into personalized Sects.

I had discussed it alot with saudis over here and I came to the conclusion leave them be they just don't want to understand, the size of their brains is as small as pea they just don't want to call themselves muslims alone but proudly insist upon being associated with a specific madhab for superiority and that Islam is due to them in the Islamic world.

I respect those men Imam Abu Hanifa, Imam Malik, Imam Shafi'i, Imam Ahmad ibn Hanbal...But even they don't have guarantees that they will not be subject to scrutiny by Allah on the day of Judgement. What if Allah asks them you 4 people had spread and put confusion into the hearts of people "muslims". You people are the reason Islam split into division and sects. Allah has already stated every soul will be held accountable that includes these 4 Imams. Do we really need schools of thoughts to follow Islam?, was there any school of thought at the times of Prophet Muhammad P.B.U.H? Did muslims felt the need of one at that time?

Do you people even Think about it or blindly follow what your moms and pops tell you to follow. Quran asks you and answers you and tells you to Think. Unfortunately you people live by mullah's book and mullah's philosophy and whatever you inherit from you parents but never use your brains to think and make sense.

There is no madhab but Islam and certainly no place for sub-madhabs [hanafi, salafi, hanbali, shafi, maliki, jaffer.. or what so ever tag names], the follower of Islam is called Muslim not hanafi, salafi hanbali and so on. Most of people are disillusion and distorted. Trust me the sooner you people detach yourselves from this sub-madhab thing the better would be for Islam...compare Prophet Muhammad P.B.U.H Time vs 4 Imam and after the extra madhab and leading to Sect pick one.