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Vipers are not coming??

In 1971---it was obvious from day one---we had an alcoholic as a CinC and similar general staff under him---.
Sir Check Gen Arora's or Field Marshal Sir Manik Shah's interviews you will get insight why we lost....it was not because of Our General is drunkard it is only because of location and logistics, even Field Marshal Sir Manik Shah claimed if Pakistan was replaced with US and allies no one can save Pakistan at that time but Gen Niazi coned by some low rank Indian Generals to surrender too early.
 
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Sir Check Gen Arora's or Field Marshal Sir Manik Shah's interviews you will get insight why we lost....it was not because of Our General is drunkard it is only because of location and logistics, even Field Marshal Sir Manik Shah claimed if Pakistan was replaced with US and allies no one can save Pakistan at that time but Gen Niazi coned by some low rank Indian Generals to surrender too early.
Field Marshal Sam Manekshaw !!!
 
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Who says vipers are not coming? lol, they are coming. Afghan peace process is under way we will hear the news soon be optimistic people. If negotiations go well the vipers will come.
 
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Someday our generals will eventually smell the coffe and realize that USA is not a trustworthy partner and not our friend.
Why they even bothered to sign contracts with the Americans when everyone knew that America is like a teenage girl or teenage by very bad with hormonal imbalance who can get angry at any time.
 
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Someday our generals will eventually smell the coffe and realize that USA is not a trustworthy partner and not our friend.
Why they even bothered to sign contracts with the Americans when everyone knew that America is like a teenage girl or teenage by very bad with hormonal imbalance who can get angry at any time.

With USA it is always a one sum game you need to have some leverage to get any thing from them. Placing an order is very easy with USA the difficult part is getting the product so if you have some card hidden in the end times then you can for sure get the product from USA.
 
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coalition support funds sponsored acquisition so paa was happy to get Zulus otherwise does not make sense to have Zulu mi and at129 all at the same time
 
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Sir Check Gen Arora's or Field Marshal Sir Manik Shah's interviews you will get insight why we lost....it was not because of Our General is drunkard it is only because of location and logistics, even Field Marshal Sir Manik Shah claimed if Pakistan was replaced with US and allies no one can save Pakistan at that time but Gen Niazi coned by some low rank Indian Generals to surrender too early.

Hi,

Youngman---I was a strapping 15 years old and very well read at that time---
 
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coalition support funds sponsored acquisition so paa was happy to get Zulus otherwise does not make sense to have Zulu mi and at129 all at the same time
i don't see any evidence that its was FMF
 
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It is time we had a Tribunal to figure out who was friends with US supplier who pushed for this deal
There is plenty of corruption in military ranks too, hopefully when parliament and the judiciary is cleaned, we can tackle the Holy cow too.

It's incredible that those fake dousing rods are still used to detect bombs.
 
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I am not amazed. Its a pity and ironic our generals and military leadership will lick US boots any time in a year, on top of that nothing will change in PA thinking. No generals will be court marshaled they will receive full benefits at retirement, may be more.

Pakistan badly needs these hellos for CAS, unfortunately if they really dont get delivered our jawans will suffer on the front line.

Off Topic: Pakistan never had good relations will US, just before leaving office Obama sanctioned several Pakistan defence companies related to strategic weapons development needlessly. US was even ready to help jail break Shakil Afridi (a convicted punished traitor). US also recetly took away 7-11 hellos meant for Pak Afghan border petrol from Pakistan Army Aviation. Also the recent cancelled F-16 deal. US media always paints a grim picture about Pakistan. And the list goes on.

Pakistan lost so much funds, precious lives, and infrastructure ever since US invaded Afghanistan. Attaching Afghan cooperation strings and other US wish list to this defence deal is dirty and unethical. Pakistan is always getting epic level back stabbed by US again and again. If its certain we dont get these hellos then we are not part of the US coalition. Pakistan must stop US military supplies to Afghanistan indefinitely.

I pray common sense prevails in GHQ, they mend their ways and avoid any further lolly pops from US.

Off Topic: Meanwhile Indian Military will receive Apaches, Armed drones, Advanced jets, Light Artillery guns and other lethal tech from US necessary to butcher our jawans and people.

May Allah help & protect Pakistan, Amin
 
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