Vikramditya & the IAC Vikrant Threat To Pakistan Waters

[The Deterrent]

That would require a high res LEO sat grid for targeting, a larger grid than the deployed Chinese Yaogan (NOSS) constellation.

I was being funny!

 

[Dillinger]

I was being funny!

My sense of humor is dead, it rots away like a cadaver thrown away as refuse...being a Munshi will do that you.....

 

[Water Car Engineer]

Hmm, I had absolutely NO idea the IN was thinking about putting these weapons on their warships! If true this is absolutely GREAT news, such an advanced and useful self-protection asset.

But will they be the Strales system? Ie with this automation and dart/illumination tracking or just regular OTO Melare 76s as on the Shivlaik class?


@sancho, @Dillinger is this really true? Haven't seen/heard anything on this. 

It's not confirmed, but IN should seriously consider it over the regular ones.

 

[Abingdonboy]

It's not confirmed, but IN should seriously consider it over the regular ones.

If the IAC-1 will in fact have OTO Melare 76s on board then it would make sense for them to be configured for Strales.I mean to have them in a standard configuration seems entirely pointless when you consider the range is only around 25km and the IAC-1 is never going to get within 25km of a threat when it has escorts and its fighters. The days when warships would line up against each other and use naval guns to take on each other are LONG GONE. So with Strales in an AAD role is in the only realistic reason these weapons would be included onboard.

 

[illusion8]

Quite an interesting video on the recently tested LRASM from LM @Capt.Popeye, @Dillinger, @Abingdonboy , @Oscar.

 

[Capt.Popeye]

I was being funny!

Yes I know (if you were'nt then you'd better have been ); I quite like the cocktails/mocktails that you serve up from time to time. 

Quite an interesting video on the recently tested LRASM from LM @Capt.Popeye, @Dillinger, @Abingdonboy , @Oscar.

Very slick video, with all the necessary CGI and..............................its from the US of A.

 

[SQ8]

Ergo the larger K variant which was insisted upon by the IN, although I still don't want to take a chance- I would have preferred an Osprey based AEW&C with more range and endurance for our STOBAR boats (the only kind we've got ) so as to ensure better coverage (more powerful sensors too perhaps).

Be that as it may, the air threat should not be taken as lightly as it is being presumed here. Its effectiveness as AD/A2 systems is still enough to create the probability and hence worry for fleet commanders.

 

[Capt.Popeye]

Be that as it may, the air threat should not be taken as lightly as it is being presumed here. Its effectiveness as AD/A2 systems is still enough to create the probability and hence worry for fleet commanders.

An Air Threat can never be taken lightly. Is'nt that what caused the demise of the "Age of the Dreadnought/Battleship" ?

 

[Dillinger]

Be that as it may, the air threat should not be taken as lightly as it is being presumed here. Its effectiveness as AD/A2 systems is still enough to create the probability and hence worry for fleet commanders.

Oh that it will, ergo the reason that I took great pains in my posts on the AKG thread to incorporate the possible methods which the PAF could employ to bypass or breach the BARCAP for example or what may happen in the eventuality of a saturation attack...its a classic case of one side overestimating the efficiency of a system and tactic and other underestimating it..

 

[Abingdonboy]

Quite an interesting video on the recently tested LRASM from LM @Capt.Popeye, @Dillinger, @Abingdonboy , @Oscar.

Now THAT is how you do a PR video!!!

 

[SQ8]

An Air Threat can never be taken lightly. Is'nt that what caused the demise of the "Age of the Dreadnought/Battleship" ?

Which is why even Phallic looking system such as the KH-15 or CM-400 is fairly potent when deployed. IMHO the employment may not be of one weapon system. And it is likely that a combination of AGM-84, C-802 and CM-400 is the employment method likely to be used in AD/A2 moves.

 

[Capt.Popeye]

Which is why even Phallic looking system such as the KH-15 or CM-400 is fairly potent when deployed. IMHO the employment may not be of one weapon system. And it is likely that a combination of AGM-84, C-802 and CM-400 is the employment method likely to be used in AD/A2 moves.

That needs two things first; very good surveillance systems and very reliable delivery systems.
And both of that in adequate strength/numbers.

 

[SQ8]

That needs two things first; very good surveillance systems and very reliable delivery systems.
And both of that in adequate strength/numbers.

Surveillance may be assisted by P-3Cs as they have undergone quite an upgrade making them equal to the P-3C AIP program in the US. The APS-137 on board has been tested to pick up destroyer sized targets in moderate sea state with a mean 70nmi . Additionally the ZDK-03 systems have been designed with the sea in mind. The question then is not of surveillance capability, but of knowing where to look. That then depends on the whims of the FOC of the Indian western command and the deployment tactics.

 

[Armstrong]

Cap. I have the memory of a goldfish when it comes to PDF.

And women, I hope !

Which means heres a glass to you being out there once more my Pakistani Don Juan brother !

Achaaa Oscar eik question : How effective could mobile Land Based Missile Batteries be against the Aircraft Carrier & more so against Surface Vessels ?

 

[Capt.Popeye]

Surveillance may be assisted by P-3Cs as they have undergone quite an upgrade making them equal to the P-3C AIP program in the US. The APS-137 on board has been tested to pick up destroyer sized targets in moderate sea state with a mean 70nmi . Additionally the ZDK-03 systems have been designed with the sea in mind. The question then is not of surveillance capability, but of knowing where to look. That then depends on the whims of the FOC of the Indian western command and the deployment tactics.

Yes, of course. That is just the half of it. Then the question of delivery afer having located.
Then again throw the opposition's air-cover (which you had earlier alluded to) into the stew-pot.
That gets interseting as it progresses.

Air-Power (both for surveillance and for attack) has a large role in this particular scenario.