USAF drills a Chinese mainland bombing run

[Hafizzz]

What inside sources?

Are they those sources which come from inside every morning.

Ask Ulysses...he knows all about "Inside Sources"

See below :

QUOTE=Ulysses;2871001]Inside sources tell me that China has a plan if we do attack Iran.

China better not attempt anything stupid as we will defend all our Allies.[/QUOTE]

 

[Zeeshan360]

And you believe that USA can get away unharmed after spanking China ?

Something called superpower ..

 

[T-Rex]

Something called superpower ..

That 'superpower' just can't have the guts to attack Iran, though it has been huffing and puffing for the last three decades!

 

[LeGenD]

USA capability is 60% BS and 40% substance.

Are you sure?

Federation of American Scientists :: Status of World Nuclear Forces

That satellite photo is taken of a Russian SSBN, the Delta III class (obvious from the hump). This is the Type 094 Jin class SSBN armed with 16 JL-2A (10,000+ km range, 3-6 90 kT yield MIRV).

Description of the image: data for: Satellite photos show the two 094 submarines are moored at Naval Base pier

Here is another:

Of course China, right now, targets New York and Washington DC with our off-road mobile 12,000 km DF-31A, armed with a single 3 mT yield warhead. It is irrelevant that it overflies Russia. The ballistic path to Moscow is very different from the ballistic path to east coast USA.

Flight path over Russia is not an irrelevant factor. It can trigger Russian response.

Therefore, my point that SLBM is the best platform to strike these US cities.

Er.... the Great Wall of China is a tourist attraction. We don't hide any nukes in there. We do, however, have tunnels deep in mountains with stockpiles of missiles, warheads, fissile materials and manufacturing facilities.

Those missiles are ICBM. China knows that its strategic assets are highly vulnerable to US strikes in the open. Therefore, this underground facility have been developed to protect Chinese ground based strategic assets like ICBM arsenal and nukes. China is even developing missile silos in these underground facilities.

However, US 'currently' possesses firepower and technology to render even such underground facilities useless.

Just look at the size of US defence budget:

Imagine the possibilities with such a budget.

USA does not have any ABM ability that can threaten China's missiles. They are only 50% effective against 30 year old Scuds.

US ABM capability is much more advanced then it used to be during 1990s. The days of incompetency and inadequacy in this aspect of defence are gone.

In short, China is ready to rock and roll with our 3000+ nuclear warheads USA will wish they never declared independence from Great Britain when we are done with them!

My friend, China does not have 3000+ nuclear weapons.

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

Our interests are of course a stable World, and a stable world is one where international law is respected. I hope China will come to realize the value of today's system and become a responsible member of it, rather than lust after vague thoughts of ages long gone.

China is not an 'enemy' yet, but the actions that we have seen in the South China Sea are not conducive to that course, and only make China's future rocky.

International law or US law? When U.S. attacked Irak for WMD...which international law have they respected? Now alot of nations are awekening about abusif international system that westerners themself have created...soon or later these international structure such UN, WTO, IMF will be replaced...Americans won't have anymore the so call exceptionalism...

China still accomodate these systems created by Wests with only one reason, we still able to milk them and take advantage of...to earn more $$$ to mordernaize China and learn more to absor Western Industrial technologies...but nothing is set in stone...some other structures and organization have emerged such SCO, BRIC...eventually...fundamental questions will be raised of existing international structures.

Regardless of how US see China: through out history, China-US face off was not nothing new, China had closed eyes of what U.S actions such Irak, Afghanistan...doesn't mean China has appreciated or approved US actions, just because don't have the power to intervene and U.S represent China interest "economically". China is looking a full spreadtrum of angle and issues (gain and lost) instead of just judge U.S for it foreign policy and world dictatorship.

If China-US is head to a collision course..so be it, consider all options on table and needless to brag on who will be one to suffer the most, both sides will have decide how much they are ready to lose...American can gamble that US has immunity against China...than you're welcome to take initiative.

 

[Pakchina]

The US war criminlas have to justify all the billions pour in the US army. Thus China has been erected as evil and foe and has long replaced the USSR. The US war criminlas must invent a scary and virtual enemy to exist. The reality is that the main threat to world peace is the US itself.

 

[anon45]

International law or US law? When U.S. attacked Irak for WMD...which international law have they respected? Now alot of nations are awekening about abusif international system that westerners themself have created...soon or later these international structure such UN, WTO, IMF will be replaced...Americans won't have anymore the so call exceptionalism...

China still accomodate these systems created by Wests with only one reason, we still able to milk them and take advantage of...to earn more $$$ to mordernaize China and learn more to absor Western Industrial technologies...but nothing is set in stone...some other structures and organization have emerged such SCO, BRIC...eventually...fundamental questions will be raised of existing international structures.

Regardless of how US see China: through out history, China-US face off was not nothing new, China had closed eyes of what U.S actions such Irak, Afghanistan...doesn't mean China has appreciated or approved US actions, just because don't have the power to intervene and U.S represent China interest "economically". China is looking a full spreadtrum of angle and issues (gain and lost) instead of just judge U.S for it foreign policy and world dictatorship.

If China-US is head to a collision course..so be it, consider all options on table and needless to brag on who will be one to suffer the most, both sides will have decide how much they are ready to lose...American can gamble that US has immunity against China...than you're welcome to take initiative.

If China's goal is to get rid of the global system that brought it so much benefit, then we already have nothing to talk about, and a collision course is indeed certain. China should be prepared to face not just the US, but its allies who will no doubt take China's efforts to overthrow the system very badly.

It is a shame since throughout the short history both have existed our main relation has been trade. We have gone to war against China briefly and taken the path of war to save China briefly, but we have none of the history between us that China has with the European powers. Hopefully China won't hold a grudge when the outcome is resolved, it is only poison.

The US war criminlas have to justify all the billions pour in the US army. Thus China has been erected as evil and foe and has long replaced the USSR. The US war criminlas must invent a scary and virtual enemy to exist. The reality is that the main threat to world peace is the US itself.

Did you look at the post above yours pak? If that is China's goal then China is a genuine foe to us, not a strawman one.

 

[faithfulguy]

That 'superpower' just can't have the guts to attack Iran, though it has been huffing and puffing for the last three decades!

Read up on operation praying mantis

 

[CommonCause]

There won't be any war because the global economy is far too intertwined. In today's world, money is king, so bankers and banks are the rulers.

Question for Chinese members:


Do you guys know anything about Nicholas Rockefeller? He's part of a powerful Jewish family and he seems to have connections in China.


"Nicholas' China practice includes transactions with China’s largest banks, energy companies, communications entities and real estate enterprises as well as with China's principal cities and leading provinces. He was chosen as a board member of the Central China Construction and Development Commission and as a director of the Xiwai International School of Shanghai International University. He has appeared numerous times on CCTV and other China media."


I'd be more concerned about Jew infiltration in the Communist Party than any bomb. They are looking to leech on to the next superpower.

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

There won't be any war because the global economy is far too intertwined. In today's world, money is king, so bankers and banks are the rulers.

Question for Chinese members:


Do you guys know anything about Nicholas Rockefeller? He's part of a powerful Jewish family and he seems to have connections in China.


"Nicholas' China practice includes transactions with China’s largest banks, energy companies, communications entities and real estate enterprises as well as with China's principal cities and leading provinces. He was chosen as a board member of the Central China Construction and Development Commission and as a director of the Xiwai International School of Shanghai International University. He has appeared numerous times on CCTV and other China media."


I'd be more concerned about Jew infiltration in the Communist Party than any bomb. They are looking to leech on to the next superpower.

Indeed, people here like to talk BS about how US-China war, they both have much to gain to work cooperatively than antagonism, beside knife thrown on the medias, China and US know how to refrein themself of going beyond the limits that might perceive as offense to other.

As you verywell said that Money is the king, American and Chinese all love money, both side are lobbying to have a saint and healthy relation in order to keeep business continue...that's why China-US has invented an Economical strategic dialogue mecanism to keep our relation from degradating every year.

No matter South Korean, Japanese, Indian or Vietnamese...just make up your dream the stir up Sino-US relation...ultimately China and US are gamers: you would never known how we have secretly plotted to toghter to decide the fate on your countries.

 

[FairAndUnbiased]

There won't be any war because the global economy is far too intertwined. In today's world, money is king, so bankers and banks are the rulers.

Question for Chinese members:


Do you guys know anything about Nicholas Rockefeller? He's part of a powerful Jewish family and he seems to have connections in China.


"Nicholas' China practice includes transactions with China’s largest banks, energy companies, communications entities and real estate enterprises as well as with China's principal cities and leading provinces. He was chosen as a board member of the Central China Construction and Development Commission and as a director of the Xiwai International School of Shanghai International University. He has appeared numerous times on CCTV and other China media."


I'd be more concerned about Jew infiltration in the Communist Party than any bomb. They are looking to leech on to the next superpower.

Here's the problem with that.

The Chinese banking elite are all government bureaucrats. As government bureaucrats they take orders from the Party elite and the military. Did you know that the Governor of the People's Bank of China, Zhou Xiaochuan, wanted to institute shock therapy in 2008, and President Hu and Premier Wen directly overruled him? That's because both sit on the Politburo, Hu sits on the Committee for Military Affairs and Wen sits on the National Committee for Defense Mobilization.

In China the guns control the bankers.

The US banking elite on the other hand are all private sector players, even Treasury and Chairmen of the FED. The FED is totally free of government oversight (the opposite of China where the PBOC is completely under government oversight). The members of the FED and the major elite investment banks and hedge funds all have "advisers" in the federal government. You'll be surprised how many Senators, Representatives, White House Staff, etc. are simultaneously board members or consultants of strategic corporations like Goldman Sachs, Morgan Stanley, GE, Lockheed Martin, Monsanto, etc.

The bankers control the guns. And that's really scary.

 

[xdrive]

This is nothing new but an update on how to attack vital mainland Chinese targets. When I was on the F-111 back in the 1980s, we already had navigation plans made out specifically for vital targets in theaters of interests...

New Tusks for the Pig Parts 1 - 3

As new technologies are available, sometimes these mission plans got dusty and woefully out of date. Underestimate US at your peril, navigation routes from anywhere in the world to all the major Chinese military installations are ALREADY planned.

That's pretty interesting, thanks for sharing.

 

[HongWu]

Are you sure?

Federation of American Scientists :: Status of World Nuclear Forces


Description of the image: data for: Satellite photos show the two 094 submarines are moored at Naval Base pier

Here is another:

Flight path over Russia is not an irrelevant factor. It can trigger Russian response.

Therefore, my point that SLBM is the best platform to strike these US cities.


Those missiles are ICBM. China knows that its strategic assets are highly vulnerable to US strikes in the open. Therefore, this underground facility have been developed to protect Chinese ground based strategic assets like ICBM arsenal and nukes. China is even developing missile silos in these underground facilities.

However, US 'currently' possesses firepower and technology to render even such underground facilities useless.

Just look at the size of US defence budget:

Imagine the possibilities with such a budget.


US ABM capability is much more advanced then it used to be during 1990s. The days of incompetency and inadequacy in this aspect of defence are gone.


My friend, China does not have 3000+ nuclear weapons.

My friend, you have no idea how powerful China is. We kicked USA's buttocks in the 1950's and it gave them such an inferiority complex that they spread a ton of propaganda about how "evil" our leader Mao Zedong was. The more buttocks we kick (india in 1962, USSR in 1969, Vietnam in 1979 and 1988), the more USA tried to delude themselves, because they slowly realized Napoleon's prediction was coming true -- "When China rises, the whole world will tremble."

Now even the USA cannot hold back the truth anymore. China tested a thermonuclear fusion weapon in 1967. Our stockpile of fissile material is HUGE, and our ballistic missiles are the #1 most advanced on the planet Earth.

http://www.defence.pk/forums/world-...ay-have-3-000-nuclear-warheads-us-report.html

The information you posted is nothing more than USA's attempt to intimidate others into surrender. No more credible than a Hollywood script about invincible Superman always prevailing against bad guys in the end. This only works on weak countries. When the time comes, the Chinese civilization will wipe that grotesque thing off the face of the planet, 100% guaranteed.

 

[Patriot]

I am not sure why Chinese are so slow on nukes - They should build a large nuclear arsenal like Soviets.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

My friend, China does not have 3000+ nuclear weapons.

Yes, we do have it.

I am not sure why Chinese are so slow on nukes - They should build a large nuclear arsenal like Soviets.

We have much more nukes than France+UK combined, but we don't need the Cold War USA/USSR sized stockpile, this is simply a waste of money.