US shoots itself in foot in Pakistan jet deal .

[risingsinga]

'aukaat'

What does it mean?

 

[GURU DUTT]

Hi, Salam, Good evening Friends.

I just have one Question - what if china gives hard slap to our Sh*t Politicians and PAF ACM by saying that go and l*ck Uncle SAM'S A** and we are not going to give you any jet or defense hardware?

i think than they will learn.
i know its not possible but what if really it happens , because china is closely watching us that we are just keep begging those who doesn't even bother us.
US giving best options to India and our Defense topper has no guts to ask US - why?

AND PLEASE DO NOT SAY MONEY ISSUE HERE. PLEASE


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One more thing, this F16 deals is not yet finished after few days US will throw one bone to our face and will start praising yeah yeah US-PAK love bla bla - right GUYS?
because you are same also belongs to same Nation after all including me.

Please Pak Nation Kuch to maan rakh lo yaro.

biraderr azeez point is pakistani political , militarry and beurocratic and feudal elite can never say no to yamrica bahdur and its allies as all of there wealth and asets and families are in USA or its allies and they know all about there faultlines and loopholes they (all pakistani elite of past and present)created


as for F16 well they are perfect "carrot" for pakistani militarry elite & unkle ji knows it yes they will give it but after new president comes to power till then cheers mate

 

[PAFMAN]

biraderr azeez point is pakistani political , militarry and beurocratic and feudal elite can never say no to yamrica bahdur and its allies as all of there wealth and asets and families are in USA or its allies and they know all about there faultlines and loopholes they (all pakistani elite of past and present)created


as for F16 well they are perfect "carrot" for pakistani militarry elite & unkle ji knows it yes they will give it but after new president comes to power till then cheers mate

Sir, time is over for F16, there is no life with this jet anymore. but what to do. Power is not in my hand.
and for your first statement - No comment honestly.

 

[mkiyani]

pakistan needs a crazy , A--hole leader.. basically a nut job who can take a stand against any one.. not only india and usa but also afghan and iran... alas no leader in pakistan is strong enough( strong will).. we need kim un jong... hehe ..

 

[GURU DUTT]

Sir, time is over for F16, there is no life with this jet anymore. but what to do. Power is not in my hand.
and for your first statement - No comment honestly.

most of the love for F16 and militarry elite is more emotional than anything else cause they from there graduation days are made to beleve if there is anything there arch rival fears is ... then it is ayf sollah

and i guess i dont need to tell you what kind of kick that is

make no mistake yamrika will never give AESA or the latest version of Air to Air weapnarry to PAF as it will mean end to indian market and yamrican dreams about it ... cheers mate

 

[PAFMAN]

pakistan needs a crazy , A--hole leader.. basically a nut job who can take a stand against any one.. not only india and usa but also afghan and iran... alas no leader in pakistan is strong enough( strong will).. we need kim un jong... hehe ..

No - we need General Raheel Sharif, I wish he takes the power in hand and kick everyone's A*s.
i am sure he can change something.
or are we again going to vote Mochu Wala D*ggie or this Bald Men
or Captain. yes he actually deserves to be in power to earn some money - sab ne Kha liya Usko bhi khany do
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anyway, on topic, we should go with J10 or if su35 is not possible.
really time is running out but how to tell this to our Higher Authorities.

 

[mkiyani]

Gen. rahel sharif ... where is he ... they are all sharif ... nothing will happen... zulfikar ali bhuto was also gr8t leader but...

 

[Zibago]

most of the love for F16 and militarry elite is more emotional than anything else cause they from there graduation days are made to beleve if there is anything there arch rival fears is ... then it is ayf sollah

and i guess i dont need to tell you what kind of kick that is

make no mistake yamrika will never give AESA or the latest version of Air to Air weapnarry to PAF as it will mean end to indian market and yamrican dreams about it ... cheers mate

I thought you got a perma ban?

 

[risingsinga]

America ceased to Pakistan's ally in 1990.

But Pakistan continues to be its ally till date right?

 

[GURU DUTT]

I thought you got a perma ban?

i know you are from the grpoup that loves to hate me and i genrally dont bother to reply people from your group consider it my last reply to you and please dont bother to quote me again .. thanks in advance

 

[PAFMAN]

Gen. rahel sharif ... where is he ... they are all sharif ... nothing will happen... zulfikar ali bhuto was also gr8t leader but...

Men you are too funny .

 

[Aamir Hussain]

What options are there for PAF:

SU 35? India will chew out Russkies if that happens (the chewing will be worth around 6 to 8 billion US$)
Rafael? Is out of question now.
J-10? PAF seems not interested in it. Might be a fallback option, if nothing else materializes.
Typhoon? Unit cost US$100 Million+

I do not see many choices for PAF but to go for used F-16 and upgrade them.

Remember, we need to replace 190 or so a/c and if we, as some of the members here are suggesting, dump F-16's then add another 70+ a/c to the list!

I see US helping out Pakistan to procure second hand birds from third parties and helping upgrade them in Turkey.

That is the ,most likely scenario, whether we like it or not!

 

[PAFMAN]

What options are there for PAF:

SU 35? India will chew out Russkies if that happens (the chewing will be worth around 6 to 8 billion US$)
Rafael? Is out of question now.
J-10? PAF seems not interested in it. Might be a fallback option, if nothing else materializes.
Typhoon? Unit cost US$100 Million+

I do not see many choices for PAF but to go for used F-16 and upgrade them.

Remember, we need to replace 190 or so a/c and if we, as some of the members here are suggesting, dump F-16's then add another 70+ a/c to the list!

I see US helping out Pakistan to procure second hand birds from third parties and helping upgrade them in Turkey.

That is the ,most likely scenario, whether we like it or not!

My friend/sir,
Su35 > no one i gonna chew - if you have guts just start the talk then say something. its about defense minister/higher authorities.
Rafael > You didn't even say a word that you want this jet or whatever, without putting you leg you can not say (out of question) yes you can say after deal is done with india which is still in negotiation process - not confirmed. However, forget about this Jet.
J-10 > Forget about about PAF not interested, its not about interest actually. its about we need to fill gape, Jf17 is very slow and not gonna fill the gape for sure. so this is the only jet who can help us in our bad.
Typhoon > My dear i do not understand why you guys jst keep saying money money issue. men money is not a issue. just kick out the Government and money will come out itself.
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and now come on to your Mighty F16. For God sake please. you guys are just keep saying F16 F16.
please think when you are in war and Uncle sam gives you sanction, than what you will do with this Junk? except taking pictures.
SO PLEASE COME OUT FROM YOUR DREAM THAT THIS JET IS GOING TO DEFEND US.

I can understand US is helping is to procure this jet. but they are giving us used maal. if they are really helpful so why not giving us Jet with AESA, F16V. why????

 

[Ahmad Bhutta]

Hmmm

 

[oFFbEAT]

What does it mean?

capability.