US shoots itself in foot in Pakistan jet deal .

[MastanKhan]

In the modern world no coutry cares about the other country's feeling and desires.if u.s.a is on his way and choose india for his future partnership in region,then Pakistan is also free to choose his own way.don't be over react on F 16 non funding.if pakistan can bye then pay the price fully.but i can bet still Pakistan will not get those jets like 90s we pay then we was under sanctions.so better option go for the chinese 5 th gen fighter and join it.let our engineers get the experience of building a new gen jet and almost after one decade we will able to get our own 5 th gen jets in PAF.always keep the hope alive and keep going on the struggle that is the only respect full manner in the world to live don't beg don't threat others but just do ur best silent then look their reaction on ur success .Pakistan have already so experience of enjoying their military success and opponents mad reviews

Hi,

That is an incorrect statement----. Even in a husband and wife's relationship---the wife needs to look pretty and needed for it to succeed---.

Nations are no different---you have to use the utility in a timely manner---and you need to keep ahead of the 8 ball---otherwise---you can keep blaming.

Whenever Pakistan tries to bring Taliban into mainstream of Afghanistan aka for peace talks, US always sabotage efforts of Pakistan and kill some taliban leader. Why? What US wants to achieve by killing taliban leader? Why US asks Pakistan to fight Afghan Taliban when US itself doesn't consider Afghan Taliban as terrorists and involve in peace process with them. So US itself is willing for peace with talibans but wants Pakistan to fight Afghan Taliban? I am confused.

I want to ask for how long this will continue? You guys are over there in Afghanistan since 2001, what did you achieve except instability? We are tired of this war now, this war seems to be not ending in near future. Don't know whether Taliban leader got killed or innocent person but even if taliban leader got killed, what will happen? Now another Taliban leader will come who will be more hard on you and will resist peace talks and continues to fight, which means more instability in Afghanistan. Don't expect Pakistan to fight like at your pace, we don't have much resources, we are pretty much overstretched.

We have already suffered a lot in this WOT. As a neighboring country of Afghanistan, we want to see Afghanistan stabilized so that we can send 3M afghan refugees back. We are dead serious in bringing peace in Afghanistan and also securing our interests in that volatile country.

I hope things don't escalate too much. No one in Pakistan wants to see this 60 years of relationship with US get deteriorate over arrogance and idiotic policies of US.

Americans are generally very nice and open minded people. We know you very well but your countrymen don't have much clue about Pakistan. Thanks to US media, your people are constantly being brainwashed regarding Pakistan. I feel happy whenever i see any guy from US on this forum, people to people chat/contact are must to avoid differences and misconceptions.

Welcome to this forum.......Peace !!!

Hi,

The basic reason it is happening is that the U S wants a reaction from pakistan---so that it make make a military strike.

Only if the paf was stronger---these things would not have happened.

 

[Genghis khan1]

Well here is the inside story.
Defence industrial complex is very strong in the US and lockheed martin needs their worker and production lines rolling. US made enough offer ( 8 or some F-16s) to keep Lockheed martin workforce employed until F-35 production is fully up and running. Few months ago lockheed martin decided to start full speed production of F-35 and all of the F-16 workers is being transitioned there. Last few orders of F-16s were filled by either Iraqi or some other AF. So basically, until or unless there are any unemployed work force left on F-16 assembly line, US is not subsiding $hit for Pakistan.

 

[Dr Shaheryar]

Good the deal expired now we both will be happy.

 

[Basel]

No matter how high Pakistanis like to think of themselves, they don't have the 'aukaat' to defy USA. Remember their own general(Musharraf) admitting that he joined the US led 'War On Terror' after they threatened to bomb Pakistan to stone age?? If not, see the link below.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/5369198.stm

Only Russia and China can defy US military threat like that in current world, everyone else will only bow down.

 

[Dr Shaheryar]

The new world order is changing.

 

[IceCold]

Hi,

The basic reason it is happening is that the U S wants a reaction from pakistan---so that it make make a military strike.

Only if the paf was stronger---these things would not have happened.

It seems Men in blue does not want to fight. They are happy with bombing taliban targets and performing on 23rd march. Thats about it. Not one serious change has taken place since the time we inducted F-16s. Dont believe me just see after more than 3 decades, its still your main fighter jet when it should had be replaced or even put in back burner a long time ago. Why allow US to hold you from your throats.

 

[MastanKhan]

It seems Men in blue does not want to fight. They are happy with bombing taliban targets and performing on 23rd march. Thats about it. Not one serious change has taken place since the time we inducted F-16s. Dont believe me just see after more than 3 decades, its still your main fighter jet when it should had be replaced or even put in back burner a long time ago. Why allow US to hold you from your throats.

Hi,

That is obviously the reason that theu did not buy an aircraft right after the sanctions came off.

 

[Dr Shaheryar]

Tell me is there any replacement for this legacy fighter. Even USA uses F-16 . F-35 and F-22 are still used in complementary and trial services. Proven platforms with modification still outrun the best. But this doesn't mean we have to pursue them. We can go for alternate anytime.