US responsible for the Murder of Pakistani Troops - Pak Rejects NATO Probe

[AgNoStiC MuSliM]

thats a wrong approach

remember Sulah Hadabia? Muslims and Quraish made an agreement to cooperate on some terms they mutally agreed
same should be done here too. only under new ROE and certain rules. I am not advocating back to how it was before NATO violations. those days are gone by

its our neighbourhood and we cant fix things by refusing to talk to Americans. they dont care, they will get bored one day and decide to bully some other country but by then we would have suffered a lot of problems. Imagine more hostial tribals and more Afghan refugee influx. So talking with terms that Americans understand, is essential.



America is not pure evil, they have some very nice people like you too
some of the elements that run its foreign war policy are the problem.

My only desire would be to see any future cooperation be based on written and official agreements that are approved by parliament, or, in case of sensitive intelligence cooperation, at the least vetted and approved by parliamentary defence committee. Our legislators and military should openly come out and accept any future cooperation, instead of ranting about 'being incapable of stopping the US'.

 

[HANI]

 

[GUNNER]

Pakistan Army replies to U.S./NATO probe... Below is the ISPR statement..

Rawalpindi - January 23, 2012:

The US Investigation Report into the Salala incident of 26th November 2011, involving aerial strikes by US aircraft and helicopters resulting into Shahadat (killing) of 24 Pakistani soldiers and injury to 13 others, was received by the General Headquarters (GHQ) Pakistan Army on the 24th of December 2011.

The report received is the same un version as available on the US Central Command (CENTCOM) Website. The analysis of the US Investigation Report has been carried out by Pakistan Military with a view to reiterate facts and correct the perspective.


Pakistan does not agree with several portions and findings of the Investigation Report as these are factually not correct.

The fundamental cause of the incident of 26th November 2011 was the failure of US / ISAF to share its near-border operation with Pakistan at any level. This obviously was a major omission, as were several others, like the complicated chain of command, complex command and control structure and unimaginative / intricate Rules of Engagement as well as lack of unified military command in Afghanistan.

In addition to the foregoing, US / ISAF violated all mutually agreed procedures with Pakistan for near-border operations put in place to avert such uncalled for actions. It also carried out unprovoked engagement of Pakistani Posts located inside Pakistan violating the US / ISAF mandate which is limited to Afghanistan alone.

The US Investigation Report is structured around the argument of “self defence” and “proportional use of force”, an argument which is contrary to facts. Continued engagement by US / ISAF despite being informed about the incident at multiple levels by Pakistan Military within minutes of initiation of US / ISAF fire, belies the “self defence” and “proportional use of force” contention. Affixing partial responsibility of the incident on Pakistan is therefore, unjustified and unacceptable.

The detailed Pakistani Perspective on the US Investigation Report (which is the only version of Pakistan’s Report), approved by Pakistan’s Defence Committee of the Cabinet, is available on Pakistan’s Inter Services Public Relations’ (ISPR) website (:: ISPR :: Inter Services Public Relations - PAKISTAN).

Here is the link to detailed response.. :: ISPR :: Inter Services Public Relations - PAKISTAN

 

[Safriz]

Army rejects "several portions and findings" of US report on Nato attack

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Army rejects "several portions and findings" of US report on Nato attack

RAWALPINDI: According to an ISPR press release the General Headquarters (GHQ) had received the US investigation report into the Nato attack in which 24 soldiers were killed.

The report received is the same unclassified version as available on the US Central Command (CENTCOM) Website.

The analysis of the report has been carried out by the Pakistan Military with a view to reiterate facts and correct perspectives.

The ISPR press release states: Pakistan does not agree with several portions and findings of the investigation report as these are factually not correct. The fundamental cause of the incident of 26th November 2011 was the failure of US / ISAF to share its near-border operation with Pakistan at any level.

This obviously was a major omission, as were several others, like the complicated chain of command, complex command and control structure and unimaginative / intricate Rules of Engagement as well as lack of unified military command in Afghanistan.

In addition to the foregoing, US / ISAF violated all mutually agreed procedures with Pakistan for near-border operations put in place to avert such uncalled for actions. It also carried out unprovoked engagement of Pakistani Posts located inside Pakistan violating the US / ISAF mandate which is limited to Afghanistan alone.

The US Investigation Report is structured around the argument of “self defence” and “proportional use of force”, an argument which is contrary to facts. Continued engagement by US / ISAF despite being informed about the incident at multiple levels by Pakistan Military within minutes of initiation of US / ISAF fire, belies the “self defence” and “proportional use of force” contention. Affixing partial responsibility of the incident on Pakistan is therefore, unjustified and unacceptable.

 

[Windjammer]

http://www.ispr.gov.pk/front/press/pakistan.pdf

http://www.ispr.gov.pk/front/press/pakistan.pdf

 

[VCheng]

I think the matter has moved on to the broad based review of all aspects of the bilateral relations by the PNSC. This presumably will lead to parliamentary deliberations to come up with an end result of sorts, I suppose.

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Edit: I went through the whole report; it is actually well-written and raises some good points. However, this should have been released before the matter was taken up by the PNSC.

 

[Asian.Century]

http://www.ispr.gov.pk/front/press/pakistan.pdf

http://www.ispr.gov.pk/front/press/pakistan.pdf

Brilliant release by the ISPR, the moronic reaction from the US would be expected, giving Pakistan more room to do what it is currently doing as a response to that unprovoked attack.

 

[Asian.Century]

Army’s rebuttal

By: Dr Haider Mehdi | January 25, 2012

The Pakistan army on Monday rejected the US report on the November 26 Salalah attack that led to the deaths of 24 Pakistani soldiers. The statement of rejection issued by the military categorically maintained that the attack was unprovoked.

The army’s statement contended that the fundamental cause of the attack was the failure of US/Isaf to share its near-border operations with Pakistan at any level. Thus, it rightly argued that US/Isaf violated all mutually agreed procedures with Pakistan for near-border operations put in place to avert such uncalled for actions. And most importantly one fully agrees with the opinion that the Nato forces were acting outside their mandate. Likewise, another crucial point which rebuffs the US report is the army’s categorical argument that several emergency calls to the Nato high command to stop the attack fell on deaf ears.

At the same time, what shows the double-standards in the probe was the appointment of the same General as the investigation officer who was piloting the gunship chopper that slaughtered Pakistani troops without any remorse. His appointment itself was a proof that the American side did not take seriously the concerns raised by the Pakistanis in carrying out impartial investigations, this only adding insult to injury. Imagine on the other hand, how the Americans would have reacted if Pakistani troops had opened fire on their soldiers, and later without tendering an apology stated that it would give the responsibility of carrying out the probe to the person who pulled the trigger. The US military's use of military terms like, ‘friendly fire’, etc, have been sternly rejected by the army as a smokescreen to hide the grievous and allegedly deliberate attack on Pakistani checkposts.

Meanwhile the drone attack in North Waziristan on Monday, killing five men, indicates that the drone wars are intended to continue in Pakistan. The government that has been considering possible restoration of Nato supplies must give up the thought in the wake of the army’s report and the resurgence of drone warfare. If the government gives in at this stage, it would amount to encouraging world powers to regard Pakistan’s soil as their fiefdom.

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