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and no Indian consulates in Afghanistan
You don't sell your martyers. Pakistan should ask for the culprits.
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and no Indian consulates in Afghanistan
Irfan Husain | Opinion
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But by refusing to participate in the American inquiry, our generals have made it clear that they are not interested in reaching the truth, but in scoring points.
Cross-Border Incident
by BRIAN CLOUGHLEY
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Pakistan was told it would not have equal status in the inquiry, so declined being relegated to an inferior position, because it was made clear that its members of the inquiry board would not be allowed to examine the most important information. There was no question of being permitted anything like equivalent representation. Can you imagine the Pentagon allowing a Pakistani officer to question US air force pilots who carried out the air strikes? Or access the record of computer exchanges? Or interview any of the US special forces involved in the ground operation?
There wasnt the remotest chance of that. It was insulting to even suggest that Pakistan might accept such terms. But thats typical of the way that allies are treated by Washington.
An apology often disarms the other person. The other day, a driver accidentally reversed into our car, causing a small dent.
But before I could berate him for his stupidity and demand the cost of repairs, he accepted it was entirely his fault, and apologised. After that, I found it hard to stay angry, and left, advising him to be more careful in the future.
Now, the balls in the American court. The easy way out would be to just say sorry and move on.
Hi,
But this strike was stretched over two hours---they came back again and again---. There was a reason behind this strike---.
The generals are tired of fighting this war---they knew that this kind of strike would create a major fiasco in relation with pakistan----which would result in embargo of goods----which would put undue pressure on the supply line----thus put pressure on the troops---and then the millitary would talk to the congress and senate---this war cannot be prolonged---there is no supply route----bring the soldiers home---.
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i am glad to see that atleast there is one individual (apart from who thanked me, but didnt share their thoughts) on this thread who understands what i am yapping about.
Why’s it so hard to say ‘sorry’?
Irfan Husain | Opinion | From the Newspaper (10 hours ago) Today
But what also makes no sense is the American refusal to apologise. What would it cost Obama to just say sorry so both sides can move on? After all, the official inquiry report does contain a pretty damning list of procedural flaws and tactical errors committed by American troops and their commanders.
Why
Develepereo,
Indeed---these are terrible times to be opposing the united states of america---. Obama is in deep sh-it---american forces are facing defeat in afg---leaving iraq in shambles is going to bite them in the future. The republicans have nothing but hate for pakistan and iran---and the saudis have signed a 30 billon dollar defence contract with the u s.
Biden has declared taliban as the friends of the united states---Zardari and Haqqani tried to sell the assets of pak millitary to the u s---these are intriguing times.
Going a bit off-topic, but I disagree with that thesis. The military's job is to win battles. Managing the subsequent occupation is a different proposition. You do that by
a) winning the hearts and minds of the conquered peoples, or
b) pulverizing their spirit by brute force
The military can do option b), but option a) falls squarely within civilian strategists' domain. It is not the US military's job to win hearts and minds. All they can do is to provide an area and a period of stability so that the civilians can do their thing.
In 45 minutes even a "Runner" (Each Platoon included a number of messengers or runners, at least two and sometimes three. These men were tasked with carrying the verbal orders of the Platoon Commander to any Squads out of direct control, or to neighbouring units. They also provided a link back to Company Headquarters. While armed with a rifle the runner's role was not primarily a combat one. Rather his task was to deliver his message accurately to the intended recipient and return to his commander with the reply or situation report. This had to be done in the midst of battle when units could quickly and unexpectedly shift location, and of course in the face of enemy fire.) could have knocked some sense into the battle commanders, what to talk about the WGS-2 as part of the Global Broadcast System (GBS) used the US Central Command in Afghanistan!The report produced by the American inquiry into the incident makes it clear that to a large extent, the Nov 27 tragedy was entirely avoidable. Neither side transmitted crucial information to the other because of the trust deficit between them. And even when it became clear to the American side that their soldiers had attacked a Pakistani security post, it took 45 minutes for the information to reach senior officers who immediately ordered a halt.
But I would mention another aspect of why obama wont apologize.
There's no reason to bring such things into this discussion.
It's a matter of Democrats v/s Republicans. Democrats are viewed as being weaker on national security. Republicans portray themselves as the red-blooded champions of America's defence. Hence Obama will be doubly reluctant to apologize where a war hero like McCain, for example, could have done so without rebuke.
But when in power Republicans have tended to have policies more favorable to Pakistan??
And Pakistan usually has a General in the hot seat .... Coincidence ?
Maybe cos AIPAC have more of a hold on democrats??
Sir! there is no question of incompetence the only option left is Premeditation and Delibration on the US/NATO part...and our Army knowz it very well that whatever is cooking within their evil mindz.....In 45 minutes even a "Runner" (Each Platoon included a number of messengers or runners, at least two and sometimes three. These men were tasked with carrying the verbal orders of the Platoon Commander to any Squads out of direct control, or to neighbouring units. They also provided a link back to Company Headquarters. While armed with a rifle the runner's role was not primarily a combat one. Rather his task was to deliver his message accurately to the intended recipient and return to his commander with the reply or situation report. This had to be done in the midst of battle when units could quickly and unexpectedly shift location, and of course in the face of enemy fire.) could have knocked some sense into the battle commanders, what to talk about the WGS-2 as part of the Global Broadcast System (GBS) used the US Central Command in Afghanistan!
BTW, employment of "Runners" was a WW-2 'technology'.
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With this preamble i once again ask Americans to choose between the (only) two available reasons behind Nov 26 tragedy:
-Incompetence
-Premeditation