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US Bill On Balochistan

Time for large scale relocation of Pakistanis and Biharis from Bangladesh to Baluchistan.

Problem resolved. This is not East Pakistan.

Baluchistan is flanked by iran and Afghanistan and Pakistan.

They can demand all they want, these three countries will not allow the renegades to go anywhere.

I agree, but there is no need to worry. Pakhtuns are becoming majority in Balochistan and they are pro-Pakistan. Even most Baloch in Pakistan are pro-Pakistan.


U.S. actually wants a civil war in Pakistan like 1971. U.S. wants Pakistan army to kill Pakhtun tribes in Waziristan (who are Pro-Pakistan) so Pakhtuns, being the 2nd largest ethnic group, can revolt against Pakistan and break the country. Pakistan army knows U.S. intentions therefore refuses to do operations in Waziristan.

At the same time, Baloch being the smallest ethnic group (making only 3% of Pakistan's population and half of that population living in other provinces) are seen as victims in the eyes of U.S. and U.S. hates it that ISI is killing BLA terrorists.
 
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Throw the Americans out of Islamabad. Pakistan must troll harder in the face of these master trolls. New Mexico and Texas have always been independent of the dirty Yanks and should belong to the nation of Mexico.
 
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im already yawning by this news and this dead head talk about generals.


Thank u America u really are our Evil Friend. Baluchistan is part of Pakistan and will always be, ur maniac plans will not succeed
 
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This is done to put pressure on pakistan and the tiny support for the bill will increase in case of pakistan refuses to accept conditions

there will be no paradigm shift from Pakistan's part, on issues that compromise on our national security

but i assume you already knew this


this wont build pressure on Pakistan; it will only antagonize Pakistani people, government AND needless to say, the security establishment.

as long as NATO is in Afghanistan, it would be absolutely suicidal and dangerous for them to try any stupid games with Pakistan....
 
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Really shameful for every Pakistani,
our policies have brought us to this point,

Govt should mediately withdraw FC from Baluchistan
 
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Whatever the case may be, one thing is clear for sure.


USA knows how to get its demands met by other countries.

Pakistan refuses to allow USA its supply routes and suddenly a bill on Balochistan comes threatening Pakistani sovereignity. This is nothing but a pressure tactic by the USA.

I am sure about one thing though. In the present state, with Pakistan, China and India being Nuclear Powers, Balochistan, Kashmir and Tibet are there to stay.
No one can remove them from their respective places.

Also, I understand that my Pakistani friends would pick this point against me but in order to avoid any conflicts in the future, Pakistan needs to get its house in order. REALLY BADLY.. (no offences meant to anyone)
 
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Really shameful for every Pakistani,
our policies have brought us to this state,

Before U.S. invasion of Afghanistan, Pakistan including Balochistan was much better off. U.S. and India are the cause of all problems in Balochistan.

No army operation in Balochistan: Gen Kayani



ISLAMABAD – Chief of Army Staff (COAS) General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani on Saturday said that there is no military operation being carried out in Balochistan and not a single soldier is involved in any operation in the province.

Gen Kayani said this while talking to the media persons during a reception arranged by the Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani in the honour of Sri Lankan President Mahinda Rajapaksa.

The rumours about military operation in Balochistan were mere propaganda while the Frontier Core (FC) was helping out the provincial government under the article 245. The situation that appeared after the murder of a Balochi leader Habib Jalib tells enough who was behind creating law and order situation, but unfortunately the blame has been put on to the army. To a question, he said Balochistan has a great strategic importance, particularly for the Central Asian States and Afghanistan.

Sources informed this scribe that insurgency is restricted to only three districts of Balochistan while major part of the province is in peace. Militant outfits, particularly Baloch Republican Army, Balochistan Liberation Front and Balochistan Liberation Army are actively involved in the insurgency. During last four years, insurgents have established various camps and arms are being supplied to them from Central Asian States, Afghanistan and India.

They said more than 400,000 residents of the province have been displaced while Kohlu garrison and many garrisons in Sui have been sealed, and about 70 percent schools too have been closed down throughout the province. Sources were of the opinion that a political vacuum is being severely felt and since the issue of Balochistan is political in nature, it must be resolved on political basis. The role of provincial police is limited and confined to particular areas while the general responsibility of security throughout the province has been put on the FC.

Due to insecurity and bad governance, development funds are also not being properly utilised, they added. They have further deplored that no serious efforts have been carried out so far to implement Aghaz-e Haqooq-e-Balochistan and residents have not bore any fruit from this support package.

However, despite the deteriorating law and order situation, various international firms are interested in working in the province but their primary demand is provision of security.

Agencies add: The worrisome situation in Balochistan is not restricted to local conditions and vested interests as foreign powers are behind it that want to advance their objectives in view of the location of the area, well-places sources have said.

They said the authorities failed to bridge the gulf, created after the army was called back from Balochistan, through political process. The law enforcement institutions were under pressure as they are neither well-educated nor adequately trained. Sixty five percent of the personnel are under-Matric and the security forces have been made target of well-organised and constant propaganda that they have established a state within the state.

The sources revealed that extremists are provided training in camps set up in Afghanistan and then sent to Balochistan with enough funds and arms. They said that Brahamdag Bugti, Harbiyar Marri, Javed Mengal and Dr Allah Nazar were leading four groups of miscreants. First three of them are presently in Europe while Dr Allah Nazar is active in the mountains of Khuzdar. They said the roots of all the problems in Balochistan are in Afghanistan.

They said the political decisions taken in the past have also added to the worsening of the situation. They pointed out that Chamlang coalmines are providing jobs to 75,000 people since 2006 but Khair Bakhsh Marri and Mir Biyar Marri are trying to close down the coalmine.

According to figures, 1,476 incidents of terrorism were reported in Balochistan in 2011. These included 36 bomb attacks, 68 explosions and 134 attacks on gas pipelines. There were 116 attacks at railways tracks and 20 on electricity installations during the year.

The sources further said that during the year 117 rockets were fired and 215 landmine exploded and 291 people were kidnapped, and only last month 38 security personnel were martyred. They said attacks on FC personnel have intensified in 2012.

They pointed out that law enforcement agencies were providing security for development projects, gas and electricity installations and railway tracks but they are not provided cooperation by the province’s security apparatus, even though most of the security in Quetta too is being taken care of by the FC.

The sources said that a former student leader Dr Allah Nazar was now a days active in hitherto most peaceful areas of Turbat and Makran. He is being provided funds and arms by the Indian intelligence agencies and whoever opposes his acts of terrorism is killed.

The sources pointed out that every member of the provincial assembly gets Rs250 million development funds in addition to those given to national assembly members and senators but there is no sign of any development in the province.

During the previous government, all the ‘B Areas’ were closed but the present government withdrew that decision and as a result today only 7% area is in ‘A’ category and remaining 93% is B Area, which is controlled by Levies. Personnel of the Levies are not trained and most of them work hand-in-hand with the militants. To add to the problems, political leaders in the province are least interested in the problems of the people and no one openly opposes the militants.

They said the proposal to talk with the estranged Baloch leaders some six months back has not been implemented and there are no basic facilities for the people. Seventy percent of schools in the province are closed and there is no doctor or medicine in the hospitals. In addition there are no assistant commissioners and other officers in Tehsils.

The sources said that influential people are behind acts of kidnapping and theft and when the security institutions take action against them, a well-orchestrated campaign is launched against them through political leaders and media. They pointed out that the situation is disturbed in only five districts out of thirty in the province.

The sources strongly denied involvement of security institutions in the kidnapping of people. They pointed out that in addition to US, India, Iran and Gulf states, European countries too were playing games to protect and advance their vested interests. They said there is no presence of Jandola and there has been no complaint from Iran in the last seven months in this connection.


No army operation in Balochistan: Gen Kayani | The Nation


Now this is the Chief of Army Staff saying this. My fellow Pakistanis, put your trust on the Pakistan army. Indians and other people from other countries hate the existence of Pakistan and hate that Pakistan is given such a strategic place on earth, if you care about Pakistan put your trust on the Pakistan Army. If there is no Pakistan, then there are no Pakistani wherever we are in the world.
 
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Before U.S. invasion of Afghanistan, Pakistan including Balochistan was much better off. U.S. and India are the cause of all problems in Balochistan.

No army operation in Balochistan: Gen Kayani





ISLAMABAD – Chief of Army Staff (COAS) General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani on Saturday said that there is no military operation being carried out in Balochistan and not a single soldier is involved in any operation in the province.

Gen Kayani said this while talking to the media persons during a reception arranged by the Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani in the honour of Sri Lankan President Mahinda Rajapaksa.

The rumours about military operation in Balochistan were mere propaganda while the Frontier Core (FC) was helping out the provincial government under the article 245. The situation that appeared after the murder of a Balochi leader Habib Jalib tells enough who was behind creating law and order situation, but unfortunately the blame has been put on to the army. To a question, he said Balochistan has a great strategic importance, particularly for the Central Asian States and Afghanistan.

Sources informed this scribe that insurgency is restricted to only three districts of Balochistan while major part of the province is in peace. Militant outfits, particularly Baloch Republican Army, Balochistan Liberation Front and Balochistan Liberation Army are actively involved in the insurgency. During last four years, insurgents have established various camps and arms are being supplied to them from Central Asian States, Afghanistan and India.

They said more than 400,000 residents of the province have been displaced while Kohlu garrison and many garrisons in Sui have been sealed, and about 70 percent schools too have been closed down throughout the province. Sources were of the opinion that a political vacuum is being severely felt and since the issue of Balochistan is political in nature, it must be resolved on political basis. The role of provincial police is limited and confined to particular areas while the general responsibility of security throughout the province has been put on the FC.

Due to insecurity and bad governance, development funds are also not being properly utilised, they added. They have further deplored that no serious efforts have been carried out so far to implement Aghaz-e Haqooq-e-Balochistan and residents have not bore any fruit from this support package.

However, despite the deteriorating law and order situation, various international firms are interested in working in the province but their primary demand is provision of security.

Agencies add: The worrisome situation in Balochistan is not restricted to local conditions and vested interests as foreign powers are behind it that want to advance their objectives in view of the location of the area, well-places sources have said.

They said the authorities failed to bridge the gulf, created after the army was called back from Balochistan, through political process. The law enforcement institutions were under pressure as they are neither well-educated nor adequately trained. Sixty five percent of the personnel are under-Matric and the security forces have been made target of well-organised and constant propaganda that they have established a state within the state.

The sources revealed that extremists are provided training in camps set up in Afghanistan and then sent to Balochistan with enough funds and arms. They said that Brahamdag Bugti, Harbiyar Marri, Javed Mengal and Dr Allah Nazar were leading four groups of miscreants. First three of them are presently in Europe while Dr Allah Nazar is active in the mountains of Khuzdar. They said the roots of all the problems in Balochistan are in Afghanistan.

They said the political decisions taken in the past have also added to the worsening of the situation. They pointed out that Chamlang coalmines are providing jobs to 75,000 people since 2006 but Khair Bakhsh Marri and Mir Biyar Marri are trying to close down the coalmine.

According to figures, 1,476 incidents of terrorism were reported in Balochistan in 2011. These included 36 bomb attacks, 68 explosions and 134 attacks on gas pipelines. There were 116 attacks at railways tracks and 20 on electricity installations during the year.

The sources further said that during the year 117 rockets were fired and 215 landmine exploded and 291 people were kidnapped, and only last month 38 security personnel were martyred. They said attacks on FC personnel have intensified in 2012.

They pointed out that law enforcement agencies were providing security for development projects, gas and electricity installations and railway tracks but they are not provided cooperation by the province’s security apparatus, even though most of the security in Quetta too is being taken care of by the FC.

The sources said that a former student leader Dr Allah Nazar was now a days active in hitherto most peaceful areas of Turbat and Makran. He is being provided funds and arms by the Indian intelligence agencies and whoever opposes his acts of terrorism is killed.

The sources pointed out that every member of the provincial assembly gets Rs250 million development funds in addition to those given to national assembly members and senators but there is no sign of any development in the province.

During the previous government, all the ‘B Areas’ were closed but the present government withdrew that decision and as a result today only 7% area is in ‘A’ category and remaining 93% is B Area, which is controlled by Levies. Personnel of the Levies are not trained and most of them work hand-in-hand with the militants. To add to the problems, political leaders in the province are least interested in the problems of the people and no one openly opposes the militants.

They said the proposal to talk with the estranged Baloch leaders some six months back has not been implemented and there are no basic facilities for the people. Seventy percent of schools in the province are closed and there is no doctor or medicine in the hospitals. In addition there are no assistant commissioners and other officers in Tehsils.

The sources said that influential people are behind acts of kidnapping and theft and when the security institutions take action against them, a well-orchestrated campaign is launched against them through political leaders and media. They pointed out that the situation is disturbed in only five districts out of thirty in the province.

The sources strongly denied involvement of security institutions in the kidnapping of people. They pointed out that in addition to US, India, Iran and Gulf states, European countries too were playing games to protect and advance their vested interests. They said there is no presence of Jandola and there has been no complaint from Iran in the last seven months in this connection.


No army operation in Balochistan: Gen Kayani | The Nation


Now this is the Chief of Army Staff saying this. My fellow Pakistanis, put your trust on the Pakistan army. Indians and other people from other countries hate the existence of Pakistan and hate that Pakistan is given such a strategic place on earth, if you care about Pakistan put your trust on the Pakistan Army. If there is no Pakistan, then there are no Pakistani wherever we are in the world.

Your sources are the same who assured us that nothing wrong is going to happen in East Pakistan.This really same institution lost our land to enemy and we did not even knew for days in 1980s,

the whole media and civil society are telling us about the excess in Baluchistan but we are not listening to them because we do not want to listen,
 
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Before U.S. invasion of Afghanistan, Pakistan including Balochistan was much better off. U.S. and India are the cause of all problems in Balochistan.

No army operation in Balochistan: Gen Kayani



ISLAMABAD – Chief of Army Staff (COAS) General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani on Saturday said that there is no military operation being carried out in Balochistan and not a single soldier is involved in any operation in the province.

Gen Kayani said this while talking to the media persons during a reception arranged by the Prime Minister Yousuf Raza Gilani in the honour of Sri Lankan President Mahinda Rajapaksa.

The rumours about military operation in Balochistan were mere propaganda while the Frontier Core (FC) was helping out the provincial government under the article 245. The situation that appeared after the murder of a Balochi leader Habib Jalib tells enough who was behind creating law and order situation, but unfortunately the blame has been put on to the army. To a question, he said Balochistan has a great strategic importance, particularly for the Central Asian States and Afghanistan.

Sources informed this scribe that insurgency is restricted to only three districts of Balochistan while major part of the province is in peace. Militant outfits, particularly Baloch Republican Army, Balochistan Liberation Front and Balochistan Liberation Army are actively involved in the insurgency. During last four years, insurgents have established various camps and arms are being supplied to them from Central Asian States, Afghanistan and India.

They said more than 400,000 residents of the province have been displaced while Kohlu garrison and many garrisons in Sui have been sealed, and about 70 percent schools too have been closed down throughout the province. Sources were of the opinion that a political vacuum is being severely felt and since the issue of Balochistan is political in nature, it must be resolved on political basis. The role of provincial police is limited and confined to particular areas while the general responsibility of security throughout the province has been put on the FC.

Due to insecurity and bad governance, development funds are also not being properly utilised, they added. They have further deplored that no serious efforts have been carried out so far to implement Aghaz-e Haqooq-e-Balochistan and residents have not bore any fruit from this support package.

However, despite the deteriorating law and order situation, various international firms are interested in working in the province but their primary demand is provision of security.

Agencies add: The worrisome situation in Balochistan is not restricted to local conditions and vested interests as foreign powers are behind it that want to advance their objectives in view of the location of the area, well-places sources have said.

They said the authorities failed to bridge the gulf, created after the army was called back from Balochistan, through political process. The law enforcement institutions were under pressure as they are neither well-educated nor adequately trained. Sixty five percent of the personnel are under-Matric and the security forces have been made target of well-organised and constant propaganda that they have established a state within the state.

The sources revealed that extremists are provided training in camps set up in Afghanistan and then sent to Balochistan with enough funds and arms. They said that Brahamdag Bugti, Harbiyar Marri, Javed Mengal and Dr Allah Nazar were leading four groups of miscreants. First three of them are presently in Europe while Dr Allah Nazar is active in the mountains of Khuzdar. They said the roots of all the problems in Balochistan are in Afghanistan.

They said the political decisions taken in the past have also added to the worsening of the situation. They pointed out that Chamlang coalmines are providing jobs to 75,000 people since 2006 but Khair Bakhsh Marri and Mir Biyar Marri are trying to close down the coalmine.

According to figures, 1,476 incidents of terrorism were reported in Balochistan in 2011. These included 36 bomb attacks, 68 explosions and 134 attacks on gas pipelines. There were 116 attacks at railways tracks and 20 on electricity installations during the year.

The sources further said that during the year 117 rockets were fired and 215 landmine exploded and 291 people were kidnapped, and only last month 38 security personnel were martyred. They said attacks on FC personnel have intensified in 2012.

They pointed out that law enforcement agencies were providing security for development projects, gas and electricity installations and railway tracks but they are not provided cooperation by the province’s security apparatus, even though most of the security in Quetta too is being taken care of by the FC.

The sources said that a former student leader Dr Allah Nazar was now a days active in hitherto most peaceful areas of Turbat and Makran. He is being provided funds and arms by the Indian intelligence agencies and whoever opposes his acts of terrorism is killed.

The sources pointed out that every member of the provincial assembly gets Rs250 million development funds in addition to those given to national assembly members and senators but there is no sign of any development in the province.

During the previous government, all the ‘B Areas’ were closed but the present government withdrew that decision and as a result today only 7% area is in ‘A’ category and remaining 93% is B Area, which is controlled by Levies. Personnel of the Levies are not trained and most of them work hand-in-hand with the militants. To add to the problems, political leaders in the province are least interested in the problems of the people and no one openly opposes the militants.

They said the proposal to talk with the estranged Baloch leaders some six months back has not been implemented and there are no basic facilities for the people. Seventy percent of schools in the province are closed and there is no doctor or medicine in the hospitals. In addition there are no assistant commissioners and other officers in Tehsils.

The sources said that influential people are behind acts of kidnapping and theft and when the security institutions take action against them, a well-orchestrated campaign is launched against them through political leaders and media. They pointed out that the situation is disturbed in only five districts out of thirty in the province.

The sources strongly denied involvement of security institutions in the kidnapping of people. They pointed out that in addition to US, India, Iran and Gulf states, European countries too were playing games to protect and advance their vested interests. They said there is no presence of Jandola and there has been no complaint from Iran in the last seven months in this connection.


No army operation in Balochistan: Gen Kayani | The Nation


Now this is the Chief of Army Staff saying this. My fellow Pakistanis, put your trust on the Pakistan army. Indians and other people from other countries hate the existence of Pakistan and hate that Pakistan is given such a strategic place on earth, if you care about Pakistan put your trust on the Pakistan Army. If there is no Pakistan, then there are no Pakistani wherever we are in the world.

Did not the army said the same thing during 1971 war but the reality is we carved out Bangladesh from Pakistan ? We dont have any ill intention towards Baluchistan.Fact of the matter is solve your differences within rather then giving opportunity to someone to explore it out.BTW United States is eying towards Baluchistan and you cannot ignore them.Leave your emotions aside.
 
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You'd think the massive US debt, increasing poverty, inter ethnic tensions would take up the time of these four US politicians, but alas playing Caesar seems to be their passion and they will continue to play the fiddle of another ever so fateful roman emperor and things burn down around them.
 
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Your sources are the same who assured us that nothing wrong is going to happen in East Pakistan.This really same institution lost our land to enemy and we did not even knew for days in 1980s,

the whole media and civil society are telling us about the excess in Baluchistan but we are not listening to them because we do not want to listen,

Better to eliminate the cancer before it spreads. And Balochistan can not be compared to East Pakistan. Everything about East Pakistan, the demographics, the politicial situation, the geography, the population that was more than West Pakistan, was different.
 
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This is a matter of concern, sometimes back when the Baloch Nationalists wanted to do a conference in DC, they were Not allowed due to Pakistani pressure,

things have taken twists and turns since then, either its a bluff or clear intentions for something real !

we better make our moves very sensibly, before we are check-mate !!
 
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Did not the army said the same thing during 1971 war but the reality is we carved out Bangladesh from Pakistan ? We dont have any ill intention towards Baluchistan.Fact of the matter is solve your differences within rather then giving opportunity to someone to explore it out.BTW United States is eying towards Baluchistan and you cannot ignore them.Leave your emotions aside.

I think you are correct in your assertions about the USA eyeing towards Baluchistan. You must appreciate this is the same USA that after more than 10 years of intense efforts, billions of dollars, 1000s of lost lives and 100s of empty promises have been unable to bring order in Afghanistan?
Balochistan has serious issues that need resolving and attention needs to be given to this part of our nation - and its nothing that cant be sorted. What i find incredible is Indians having so much concern in our nation. Is it genuine concern or is it an obsession for auterior motives?
I think sometimes the self insecurity of certain people creates an obsession to point out the faults of others to make their own inadequacies feel and become more palletable. I strongly recommend a reduction in this obsession for your own healths sake!
BTW do me a favour - dont compare this to something that happened 40 years ago - shows the mindset you have - incredible...
 
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