UNGA speech: Nawaz proposes 4-point peace initiative with India

[ThaniOruvan]

At least now she will have to rewrite her speech in response to what nawaz said


You just don't get sarcasm do you? India and Pakistan are like water and oil so peace will never be possible. This is just a speech for sake of speech so its not like we begging to give hugs to Indians.

Water and oil when put together will still remaining undisturbing to each other.
So your analogy doesn't suit Indo-Pak. May be Fire and Fuel suits.

No, India eliminated a potential threat in the east. Its been struggling with the one in the west, this statement shows that its making on last attempt.

Yes, had the refugees stayed inside your house why do we even care what happened to them ?
Struggling ? Stop chest thumping and realize the truth.

 

[Zibago]

That video was from a loadshedding protest in Mirpur and Kotli

 

[HariPrasad]

Agree. It applies only if he is allowed to take decisions.
In UNGA speech he looked like a puppet with no emotions and empathy while speaking.
It was like he was reading an essay written by his mommy.

I feel sorry for this guy. Had he had a free hand in dealing with India, relationship with both the countries would have improved a lot. That idiot Imaran caused a lots of trouble for him and than came Raheel sharif. Nawaz is a seasoned politician and if he gets a free hand, he can make pakistan a much better place to live. Even Zardari was not bad.

 

[ThaniOruvan]

What decisions are you referring to?
What possible decisions will he take that are in the best interest interest of Pakistan? Since the best interest of Pakistan will ALWAYS remain opposite to that of India's?

You are wrong and delusional.
Don't think asking for Pakistan is in its best interest.
It will never happen. Vacate P*K and live peacefully as you claim.

 

[SQ8]

Yes, had the refugees stayed inside your house why do we even care what happened to them ?
Struggling ? Stop chest thumping and realize the truth.

Making that statement shows you have little to show as proof of your truth.

 

[Spectre]

We are drifting, Oscar.

The bizarre developments on the foreign policy front are because we are now operating in troll mode: this foreign policy is what had come out long ago on the 'net:

1. All violence within India is due to external interference;
2. Violence within India by foreign nationals is obviously external interference;
3. Violence within India by Indian nationals of foreign origin is obviously foreign sponsored interference;
4. Violence within India by Indian nationals of Indian origin is obviously foreign provoked interference;
5. Violence within India by Indian nationals of Indian origin on Indian nationals of foreign origin is obviously foreign provoked action due to the Indian nationals of foreign origin not having moved to Pakistan long since.

There are more.

Indian Foreign Policy includes but is not restricted to topics you have highlighted. Outside of S. Asia it is doing an admirable job but within it is quite heavy handed. Recent handling of events in Nepal, Sri-Lanka and Pakistan may backfire or pay rich dividends.

Remains to be seen.

 

[Zibago]

As per jinnah we are not same.

Totally agree

 

[SQ8]

You are wrong and delusional.
Don't think asking for Pakistan is in its best interest.
It will never happen. Vacate *** and live peacefully as you claim.

Clearly shows that you are the one thinking that what you ask for will happen. People with such "make it so" issues have certain societal impulses that create this need to threaten to get things done. Its usually because they actually could get nothing done in life.

 

[ThaniOruvan]

Making that statement shows you have little to show as proof of your truth.

And what proof you had shown.
If you have empty rants please go do it somewhere else.
Or reply with substance by not just putting blame.

Clearly shows that you are the one thinking that what you ask for will happen. People with such "make it so" issues have certain societal impulses that create this need to threaten to get things done. Its usually because they actually could get nothing done in life.

Ha ha ...You actually didn't have a reply to that...
So you are involving in blame game ....

 

[Joe Shearer]

Leaving the nypho game with the rest here aside. What it seems here is a pretty similar reaction to what we see here in Pakistan; terrorists are RAW, MOSSAD etc etc..
Has India taken a note out of Pakistan's book then?
Because, as one in my position is clearly aware.. trolling from a position of power is much more effective in inciting an idiotic(or in this macro case, impulsive and stumbling) response rather than from a position of weakness.
Because right now, the margalla hills and its associated cantonment are very likely in a state of dumbfounded fury. Something that is a massive gamble on India's part. Its either going to make them do something utterly stupid, or it is going to make them do something utterly stupid. I believe you might get my drift.

I have laughed as long and as hard as this very rarely the last year or so.

@Bang Galore

You have to read this post.

 

[SQ8]

And what proof you had shown.
If you have empty rants please go do it somewhere else.
Or reply with substance by not just putting blame.



Ha ha ...You actually didn't have a reply to that...
So you are involving in blame game ....

Considering you are on my forum with me as a moderator. Gotta admire your courage, wont help you long though.

Second, Im not blaming anyone. Im analysing your lack of intellect in presenting a logical solution.

 

[kinsr]

NS's speech doesn't warrant any response at the official level. As issue of whole J&K is a bilateral and India does not need to reply to each and every utterance of Pakistani leadership everywhere.

When they don't even honor commitments made a couple of months ago at Ufa, how are they expected to honor agreements made decades ago by different leadership.

Everyone knows of Pakistan's commitment to peace, when their nation is run by the whims and fancies of the leadership at that time with scant regards to written agreements. Musharraf worked out an agreement, Kayani ruled it out. Hundreds of CBMs agreed, none followed. And on that funnily they blame India for their own failure to honor commitments.

 

[SQ8]

I have laughed as long and as hard as this very rarely the last year or so.

@Bang Galore

You have to read this post.

Hope it was a nervous chuckle. Because in this case, either of those outcomes is going to occupy BBC for a while anyway.

 

[Joe Shearer]

Hope it was a nervous chuckle. Because in this case, either of those outcomes is going to occupy BBC for a while anyway.

Nope.

It was a hearty guffaw. When standing on the gallows trapdoor, a chuckle doesn't really cut it.

 

[jaunty]

Indian Foreign Policy includes but is not restricted to topics you have highlighted. Outside of S. Asia it is doing an admirable job but within it is quite heavy handed. Recent handling of events in Nepal, Sri-Lanka and Pakistan may backfire or pay rich dividends.

Remains to be seen.

I think India is in a much better position in Sri Lanka now than it was before during the last govt. The Modi govt has also done an admirable job by solving the long standing border issues with Bangladesh. The current problem in Nepal is their own creation and the problem is mostly domestic. India need to tread cautiously there. As far as Pakistan is concerned, India has been ambiguous in its approach before, which have not resulted in anything positive. Modi govt's firm, to the point approach is a welcome change.