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ISTANBUL—The U.S. and Turkey have reached an understanding meant to assure the Ankara government that plans to drive Islamic State militants from a proposed safe zone in northern Syria won’t clear the way for Kurdish fighters to move in.

Officials from both countries on Monday disclosed details of the discussions that grew out of Turkey’s recent decision to step up its cooperation with the U.S. in the fight against Islamic State.

The U.S.-led coalition fighting the extremist group has conducted numerous airstrikes over the past year to back the Kurdish YPG militia in northern Syria, which has proved to be the most effective ground force fighting Islamic State.

But the U.S.-allied Turkish government is embroiled in a decades-old conflict with its own Kurdish minority. Turkey has resisted working with the YPG out of concern that the militants are laying the groundwork for the creation of a new Kurdish nation along Syria’s northern border with Turkey.

Two weeks ago, Turkey agreed to launch airstrikes targeting Islamic State fighters in Syria and allow the U.S. to use bases on its soil for the first time to do the same. At Turkey’s urging, the U.S. agreed to use airstrikes to protect a border zone free of Islamic State and controlled by moderate Syrian rebels.

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AREAS OF CONTROL (June 19)

Islamic State

Kurds

Proposed Islamic-State-free zone (approximate)

Source: Institute for the Study of War

Before Syria’s war erupted four years ago, the country’s Kurds were concentrated in three enclaves spread along the northern border. Over the past year, they have risen up to beat back advancing Islamic State fighters, most notably in the border town of Kobani.

The YPG advances have allowed Kurdish forces to establish authority over more Syrian territory than before the war, according to the Institute for the Study of War, which tracks control of land in the fight against Islamic State. In recent months, backed by U.S. airstrikes, the YPG has forced Islamic State fighters out of 2,000 square miles of territory in northern Syria—an area the size of Delaware—according to the U.S. military.

Since regime forces withdrew from Kurdish areas, the Syrian Kurds have secured a degree of newfound autonomy that has fueled aspirations for independence across the region. They have set up their own administration and defense forces that have started taking responsibility for security in the three Kurdish cantons. The YPG victory over Islamic State in the town of Tal Abyad this summer established a physical link between two of the three Kurdish cantons for the first time.

The Syrian Kurdish militia has pushed toward the eastern banks of the Euphrates River, the edge of Islamic State-controlled areas on the other side. The border zone the U.S. and Turkey want to set up is on the western side of the river.

YPG leaders said Monday they would work closely with allies, including the U.S.-led coalition and moderate rebel forces such as the Free Syrian Army or FSA, in the fight against Islamic State—also known as ISIS or ISIL.

However, they said they had made no commitment not to cross the Euphrates.

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“The initial plan is to move to liberate the western side of the Euphrates once the areas to the east have been cleared of ISIS,” said Idres Nassan, a senior Kurdish official in Kobani. “But the YPG is acting in coordination with the local groups, such as the FSA and other groups fighting ISIS, as well as the coalition members.”

Preventing Kurdish forces from taking advantage of U.S. and Turkish airstrikes in the area is “red line” for Turkey as it steps up to play a greater role in battling Islamic State, a Turkish official said Monday.

Keeping Kurdish fighters from moving farther west restricts America’s ability to work in northwestern Syria with a Kurdish militia that has proved an effective fighting force. And it puts more pressure on the U.S. and Turkey to find an alternative capable of filling the void.

The challenges the anti-Islamic State coalition faces in developing that fighting force became clear last week when al Qaeda-linked militants attacked U.S.-backed rebels in Syria. The Nusra Front ambushed American-trained fighters, abducted some of their top leaders and vowed to prevent the group from rising up as an effective rival.

In response to the attack, the U.S.-led coalition carried out airstrikes to prevent the American-trained rebels in Syria from being overrun. The battles marked an early setback for the Pentagon’s fledgling efforts to create a reliable new ally in Syria to match the effectiveness of Kurdish forces.

In parallel with its new military strikes against Islamic State, Turkey has targeted bases in northern Iraq used by the outlawed Kurdish separatist group PKK.

The deadly airstrikes came in response to increased attacks by the PKK against Turkish security forces that are threatening a fragile peace process.

While the PKK is closely aligned with the YPG in Syria, Turkey and the U.S. have classified the former as a terrorist group and the latter as key allies in the fight against Islamic State.

The area where Turkey hopes to establish the border zone is filled with ethnic Turkmen and Arabs and Turkish leaders fear that the Kurdish fighters will try to drive them out.

“That’s a red line,” said one Turkish official. “There are almost no Kurds in the area that would be the ISIL-free zone. Forcing the issue would trigger a new wave of ethnic cleansing, which is unacceptable to us.”

U.S. officials have offered Turkey reassurances that they won’t rely on the YPG in that area, but have sought to give themselves wiggle room to work with the Kurdish fighters in that area if the needs arise.

“We have an agreement on the limits of the areas of operations,” said one senior U.S. official. “But the Turks are not unhappy that the YPG have taken much of the border.”

The Turkish official said the government views the YPG as “more pragmatic and realistic” than the PKK.

But he sent a blunt warning to the YPG not to challenge that red line.

“They saw how Turkey reacted to the PKK terrorist attacks,” the Turkish official said. “They saw how Turkey responded to its own red lines. That should be some kind of deterrence for the YPG.”
U.S., Turkey Agree to Keep Syrian Kurds Out of Proposed Border Zone - WSJ

Turkey will also not allow ISIS or YPG to have statelets on the Turkish border. Recent ethnic cleansing and crimes that YPG committed have proven they are just as bad or even worse than ISIS.
 
That if true reason beteween Turkey and PKK new fight, and yet Demirtas and Killicdaroglu want the turkish people to believe this new war is because Erdogan's ambition.

Erdogan is ambitious yes, but he must know that he cannot hope to make a better score to a next election so Demirtas and Killicdaroglu's claim are ridiculious, the people will not leave MHP to vote AKP while Bahceli is 100% and more behind the state's new policy.

And what more ridiculious is Demirtas's interview where he claim Turkey are no right to intervien to Syria...Syria has not rightfull ruler anymore, and everybody will seek to defend his interest.

The PKK want to create a new state and Turkey want to prevent it. Demirtas is with PKK but Killicdaroglu show his kurd origine with a policy against the kemalist mind.
Killicdaroglu must go, he cannot be CHP leader, and his worlds will only confuse Turkey people and support PKK's plan.
 
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''Aid agency AFAD equipped to build refugee camp in safe zone within a day

As Turkish and U.S. talks on forming a safe zone in northern Syria continue, the AFAD president said establishing refugee camps in the zone would only be a matter of 24 hours for the agency, which already takes care of thousands of refugees in camps across southern Turkey


The president of the Prime Ministry Disaster and Emergency Management Authority (AFAD), Fuat Oktay, referring to the proposed safe zone created in northern Syria, said the agency has taken all the necessary precautions and is ready for preparations of refugee camps in the zone. Signifying that Turkey is directly affected by what happens in Syria, Oktay said: "The truth is that Turkey cannot take any more refugees, we are at full capacity. You cannot expect a country to take care of millions of refugees by itself. Turkey is trying to do what is necessary to maintain its security." Officials say that AFAD will be able to establish new refugee camps within 24 hours of instruction.

Speaking to Sabah daily, Oktay claimed that there is a significant smear campaign and perception management concerning refugee camps in Turkey and said that everything regarding the camps is clear. "The U.N. awarded us last month for having the best system regarding refugees. While the world appreciates us, in Turkey, we are facing smear campaigns," Oktay said. "All staff in the camps have to pass a background check. All of the refugees are biometrically scanned and have biometric identities on them. In the camps we do not only provide shelter, we also help them to have a future," he added. Oktay said that whatever happens in Syria has a reflection in Turkey and that Turkey is at full capacity and could not endure taking in more refugees.

Regarding the proposed safe zone, he said that Turkey had been advocating for it from the start and all of the required precautions were taken against risks, which they would be ready to carry out when instructions are received. He added that no one could expect one country to endure millions of refugees on its own and Turkey was doing what was necessary for its own safety. According to sources, after the Turkish border is cleared of Islamic State of Iraq and al-Sham (ISIS) militants and a de facto safe zone is established, AFAD will be able to construct refugee camps within 24 hours.

Oktay also claimed that the Democratic Union Party (PYD) was trying to demographically restructure the region: "The PYD is trying to demographically restructure Tal Abyad. Some 24,000 people have sought refuge in Turkey, escaping from this town. While it is supposed to be a safe zone, thousands of people cannot return." Regarding the efforts against chemical weapon attacks, he said: "Our hazmat units are stationed in cities such as Hatay, Urfa and Kilis near the Syrian border. [Syrian President Bashar] Assad is known to use chemical weapons and this threat is not over yet. We are conducting continuous scans in the area."

After Ankara and Washington agreed to establish a safe zone in Syria along the Turkish border to ensure security and stability, Turkish officials have said that the safe zone, which is expected to cover a 110-kilometer area west of the Euphrates River stretching to the province of Aleppo, is to provide conditions for refugees to return to Syria. President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan said last month that creating a safe zone in Syria will provide the necessary basis for Syrian refugees to return to their country.

"As you can understand, cleansing the region of all threatening elements and establishing a safe zone constitutes the basis of 1.7 million Syrian refugees' return," Erdoğan said.

Meanwhile, sources in Ankara reported that the necessary steps, which require providing conditions for refugees to return to Syria, were discussed in the last Cabinet meeting last week. Accordingly, after expelling ISIS militants and other threats from the proposed safe zone, AFAD will build refugee camps inside Syria as a first step. Other infrastructure investments such as building roads and permanent accommodations are planned as a next step. The Prime Ministry Housing Development Administration (TOKİ) has already begun preliminary works to build houses and schools and a hospital in order to drive refugees to return to Syria, sources have reported.'' Daily Sabah


 
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''Aid agency AFAD equipped to build refugee camp in safe zone within a day

As Turkish and U.S. talks on forming a safe zone in northern Syria continue, the AFAD president said establishing refugee camps in the zone would only be a matter of 24 hours for the agency, which already takes care of thousands of refugees in camps across southern Turkey


The president of the Prime Ministry Disaster and Emergency Management Authority (AFAD), Fuat Oktay, referring to the proposed safe zone created in northern Syria, said the agency has taken all the necessary precautions and is ready for preparations of refugee camps in the zone. Signifying that Turkey is directly affected by what happens in Syria, Oktay said: "The truth is that Turkey cannot take any more refugees, we are at full capacity. You cannot expect a country to take care of millions of refugees by itself. Turkey is trying to do what is necessary to maintain its security." Officials say that AFAD will be able to establish new refugee camps within 24 hours of instruction.

Speaking to Sabah daily, Oktay claimed that there is a significant smear campaign and perception management concerning refugee camps in Turkey and said that everything regarding the camps is clear. "The U.N. awarded us last month for having the best system regarding refugees. While the world appreciates us, in Turkey, we are facing smear campaigns," Oktay said. "All staff in the camps have to pass a background check. All of the refugees are biometrically scanned and have biometric identities on them. In the camps we do not only provide shelter, we also help them to have a future," he added. Oktay said that whatever happens in Syria has a reflection in Turkey and that Turkey is at full capacity and could not endure taking in more refugees.

Regarding the proposed safe zone, he said that Turkey had been advocating for it from the start and all of the required precautions were taken against risks, which they would be ready to carry out when instructions are received. He added that no one could expect one country to endure millions of refugees on its own and Turkey was doing what was necessary for its own safety. According to sources, after the Turkish border is cleared of Islamic State of Iraq and al-Sham (ISIS) militants and a de facto safe zone is established, AFAD will be able to construct refugee camps within 24 hours.

Oktay also claimed that the Democratic Union Party (PYD) was trying to demographically restructure the region: "The PYD is trying to demographically restructure Tal Abyad. Some 24,000 people have sought refuge in Turkey, escaping from this town. While it is supposed to be a safe zone, thousands of people cannot return." Regarding the efforts against chemical weapon attacks, he said: "Our hazmat units are stationed in cities such as Hatay, Urfa and Kilis near the Syrian border. [Syrian President Bashar] Assad is known to use chemical weapons and this threat is not over yet. We are conducting continuous scans in the area."

After Ankara and Washington agreed to establish a safe zone in Syria along the Turkish border to ensure security and stability, Turkish officials have said that the safe zone, which is expected to cover a 110-kilometer area west of the Euphrates River stretching to the province of Aleppo, is to provide conditions for refugees to return to Syria. President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan said last month that creating a safe zone in Syria will provide the necessary basis for Syrian refugees to return to their country.

"As you can understand, cleansing the region of all threatening elements and establishing a safe zone constitutes the basis of 1.7 million Syrian refugees' return," Erdoğan said.

Meanwhile, sources in Ankara reported that the necessary steps, which require providing conditions for refugees to return to Syria, were discussed in the last Cabinet meeting last week. Accordingly, after expelling ISIS militants and other threats from the proposed safe zone, AFAD will build refugee camps inside Syria as a first step. Other infrastructure investments such as building roads and permanent accommodations are planned as a next step. The Prime Ministry Housing Development Administration (TOKİ) has already begun preliminary works to build houses and schools and a hospital in order to drive refugees to return to Syria, sources have reported.'' Daily Sabah


We should help, too! We have that money, equipment and know how.
 
We should help, too! We have that money, equipment and know how.
Sadly some German polititians would like to help pkk instead, they even say it openly, they talk about humanitarian crisis and enforcing peace but ironically they think about helping a terrorist organization instead of helping the refugees which is clearly the more logical option when talking about humanitarian help.

It only makes sense when we call it as it is, their wish is not humanitarian help but something else...
 
82 HALEPPO and 83 MOSSUL

We should fuse the threats

@Bismarck. Germany ? I doubt.

And I would be happy if you apologize your last insulting comment towards me. I believe you misunderstood or were not concentrated.

Akdeniz'de bir göçmen faciası daha - Hürriyet Dünya

Don't get me wrong, no offense or personally issue. But don't make Israel stronger as they are. No need for myth!

As far as I know, I am German! Lol!

Sadly some German polititians would like to help pkk instead, they even say it openly, they talk about humanitarian crisis and enforcing peace but ironically they think about helping a terrorist organization instead of helping the refugees which is clearly the more logical option when talking about humanitarian help.

It only makes sense when we call it as it is, their wish is not humanitarian help but something else...

Don't forget, even Turkey said, that they armed kurdish peshmerga, as we do.
 
Don't get me wrong, no offense or personally issue. But don't make Israel stronger as they are. No need for myth!

As far as I know, I am German! Lol!



Don't forget, even Turkey said, that they armed kurdish peshmerga, as we do.

Israel trusts in Nukes. Thats it
 
Israel can never be messed with Türkiye; except their superior airforce and air defence.
 
Don't forget, even Turkey said, that they armed kurdish peshmerga, as we do.
Im not talking about Peshmerga im talking about leftist politians talking about ''re-evaluating'' the relations to pkk, we all know what that means.
 
@Bismarck Lieber Freund, wie kommen Sie darauf, dass Ihr Sohn bin ?

1. Navy - Turkish Navy capabilities are much more better !

2. Land Forces- Israels Moral and motivation is much lower !

3. Air Force - they have F-15 Bombers , ok ?

4. Nukes not discussion base



what else ? Come on .. and please not with mosaic hints
 
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