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U.S. considering Ankara’s request to base Predators in Turkey to fight PKK

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The Obama administration is considering a request from Turkey to base a fleet of Predator drones on Turkish soil for counterterrorism operations in northern Iraq, a decision that could strengthen a diplomatic alliance but drag the United States deeper into a regional conflict.

The U.S. military has flown the unarmed Predators from Iraqi bases since 2007 and shared the planes’ surveillance video with Turkey as part of a secretive joint crackdown against fighters from the Kurdistan Workers’ Party, or PKK. Unless a new home for the Predators is found, however, the counterterrorism partnership could cease by Dec. 31, when all U.S. forces are scheduled to withdraw from Iraq.

The Obama administration has not yet made a decision on the Turkish request, according to senior U.S. military officials.

Previously undisclosed diplomatic cables show Turkey has become highly dependent on the Predators, U-2 spy aircraft and other U.S. intelligence sources in its conflict with the PKK. The Kurdish group, which is fighting to create an autonomous enclave in Turkey, has launched cross-border attacks from its hideouts in northern Iraq for years. Turkey has responded with airstrikes and artillery attacks but has also sent ground troops into Iraq, further destabilizing an already volatile area.

Turkey’s request to host the Predators on its territory is an unexamined consequence of the U.S. withdrawal from Iraq, which some countries fear could leave a power vacuum in an unstable region. It also underscores how U.S. unmanned aircraft have swiftly become the leading tactical weapon against terrorist groups around the world, as well as a favored instrument of foreign policy.

Besides deploying armed drones in Afghanistan, Iraq and Pakistan, the United States is expanding drone missions over Yemen and Somalia. It has sent surveillance drones into Mexico for counternarcotics operations and supplied small surveillance drones to the Colombian military for counterterrorism missions.

Moral and policy dilemmas

While the drones have proved to be a highly effective tool in waging unconventional warfare, their rapid proliferation presents the U.S. government with moral and policy dilemmas. The Predator missions in northern Iraq have bolstered relations with Turkey, for instance but have also further exposed the United States to a messy local war.

Although the U.S. government officially labels the PKK a terrorist organization, the group has not targeted American interests.

The classified diplomatic cables, obtained by the anti-secrecy Web site WikiLeaks, reveal that Turkish officials have repeatedly pressed their American counterparts to escalate their involvement against the PKK and eradicate the group before U.S. forces leave Iraq.

“Before your withdrawal, it is our common responsibility to eliminate this threat,” Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu told Army Gen. Ray Odierno, then the top U.S. commander in Iraq, in a February 2010 meeting in Ankara, according to a cable summarizing the meeting.

Odierno and other U.S. officials agreed to Turkish requests to adopt an “enhanced joint action plan” against the PKK, according to other cables. But the U.S. military has tried to keep its involvement limited, while concealing the details. It has continued to fly surveillance missions, share intelligence and help select targets, but it has resisted Turkish pressure to bomb or attack Kurdish militants directly, the cables show.
 
dude, you need to remember to put links. it is important!
 
I think the request to have those drones are a good decision, but I don't like the fact that it'll be used as a political instrument by the US senate, which shouldn't surprise anyone. I seriously hope our own UAV will be sped through the long and tests quick, or they pump a couple of billions more into the project.
 
Erdogan: US to provide drones to Turkey
By REUTERS
09/24/2011 13:08

ANKARA - The United States has agreed in principle to deploy US Predator drones on Turkish soil to aid in the fight against Kurdish separatist rebels, Prime Minister Tayyip Erdogan said.

The US military flies unarmed surveillance Predators based in Iraq and shares images and vital intelligence with Turkey to aid Ankara as it battles Kurdish Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK) rebels who have camps in northern Iraq.

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Erdogan, speaking to reporters in New York on Friday where he attended a UN General Assembly, said Turkey has offered to buy or lease the drones and that details are being worked out.

US troops are due to leave Iraq at the end of 2011. Turkish officials have expressed concern the PKK, which has bases in northern Iraq, might exploit any security vacuum left by the departure of the US military from Iraq.

Security experts say Turkey is very dependent on the Predators and other spy aircraft in its fight against the PKK, which is listed as a terrorist organization by Turkey, the United States and the European Union.

Turkey, a NATO ally for the United States, agreed earlier this month to host a NATO early-warning radar system as part of the defenses of the Western military alliance.

The Turkish military has launched air strikes and artillery raids against suspected PKK hideouts in northern Iraq in retaliation for a spate of militant attacks inside Turkey, despite opposition from Iraq's regional Kurdish government.

Erdogan said such operations will continue until the PKK lays down its weapons. Iraqi Kurdish government officials have called for the issue to be resolved through diplomatic means.

"Our decision is clear. We can not back off, we can not think about ending the cross-border operations," Erdogan said.

"If the terrorist organization can manage to lay down weapons, naturally the operations will also stop."

There has been an increase in rhetoric by Turkey of a potential cross-border land operation into northern Iraq, possibly in cooperation with Iran, which is locked in its own conflict with an offshoot of the PKK.

The PKK has fought for Kurdish self-rule for more than 27 years in a conflict that has killed 40,000 people.


Erdogan: US to provide drones to Turkey - JPost - Middle East
 
Turkish minister: Predators to be delivered in 2012

Yilmaz told reporters on Saturday that Predators, which would be bought from the United States, would be delivered to Turkish Armed Forces in June, 2012.

Turkish National Defense Minister Ismet Yilmaz said that unmanned aerial vehicle Predator would be delivered in 2012.

Yilmaz told reporters on Saturday that Predators, which would be bought from the United States, would be delivered to Turkish Armed Forces (TSK) in June, 2012.

Yilmaz also said that Predators had higher qualities and capabilities than Herons.

Recently, Israel failed to send back unmanned aerial vehicles --Herons-- which Turkey had sent for maintenance. Turkey currently had six Herons in Israel.

Yilmaz said that U.S. President Barack Obama and Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan earlier stated that they reached an agreement in the issue of Predators.



Turkish minister: Predators to be delivered in 2012 | Diplomacy | World Bulletin
 
Turkish media for a long time since 2009, saying its the MQ-1 and MQ-9 Turkey needs both of them versions

More significantly, Turkey has tried to buy its own armed drones from the United States, seeking to purchase MQ-9 Reapers, a larger and more modern version of the Predator. The Bush and Obama administrations have supported the request, but Congress has withheld approval so far. Some legislators are reluctant to sell the aircraft to Turkey given Ankara’s deteriorating relations with Israel, a close U.S. ally.


source: The Washington Post

Turkey Requests Predators to Combat PKK | UAS VISION
 
Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan has said cross-border military operations in northern Iraq will continue, confirming that Turkey and Iran are taking joint steps in squeezing members of the outlawed Kurdistan Workers’ Party (PKK) which were using northern Iraq as a safe haven to attack Turkish security forces a day ahead of his meeting with Iranian president.

Erdoğan said taking joint steps with Iran in fight against terrorism is on the agenda, noting that both countries are already sharing intelligence.

Erdoğan and Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad were set to meet Friday night but the meeting was postponed to Saturday. It was not immediately clear why the meeting was postponed.

Erdoğan said Turkey’s cross-border military operations will continue as planned until what he said terrorism continues, stressing that Turkey’s decision on this issue is “clear.” Erdoğan told reporters after meeting with Iraqi President Jalal Talabani on Friday that he expressed Turkey’s position on cross-border operation against the PKK in northern Iraq to the Iraqi president and that he didn’t question if this is a problem or not for the Iraqi side. “These [operations] will continue,” Erdoğan underlined.

Erdoğan also called on the PKK to lay down arms which he said will naturally result in halt in military operations against the terrorist organization.

Turkish President Abdullah Gül also made a similar call to the outlawed organization during his visit to Germany and said PKK members could benefit from Repentence Law which will allow former PKK members to be exonarated and pardoned if they didn’t kill anyone.

Erdoğan said there are no disagreements between Turkey and Iraq over recent military operations in northern Iraq against the PKK facilities and premises, adding that Turkey and Iraq will continue their struggle against terrorism as agreed.

Erdoğan also recalled that Foreign Ministry Undersecretary Feridun Sinirlioğlu traveled to Baghdad earlier this month to hold talks with Iraqi authorities over the military operations.

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Erdoğan said Turkey is ready to abandon its exploration in eastern Mediterranean if Greek Cypriots also stop their exploration activities which Turkey claimed was aimed at sabotaging the peace talks aimed at reunifying the long divided island.


A Turkish ship set sail for the Mediterranean on Friday to start oil and gas exploration off Turkish Cyprus. The Turkish research ship, the Piri Reis, left the port of Urla, on Turkey's Aegean coast.

Erdoğan said Turkey attaches utmost importance to the continuation of healthy peace talks and that Turkey does not want the peace talks to be provoked.


Erdoğan also confirmed that there is an agreement between Turkey and the US on the purchase of US-made Predators, noting that there are positive developments in this issue.

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No, It is the MQ-9 reaper

umarim MQ-9 da vardir ama...! terorle mucadelemiz icin cok onemli bir kapeste saglamasinin yaninda politik olarak ta buyuk anlam tasir ozelikle su an cunku hepimizin bildigi gibi adi gecen aleti pek oyle kimseye vermiyorlar
 
umarim MQ-9 da vardir ama...! terorle mucadelemiz icin cok onemli bir kapeste saglamasinin yaninda politik olarak ta buyuk anlam tasir ozelikle su an cunku hepimizin bildigi gibi adi gecen aleti pek oyle kimseye vermiyorlar

Dogrudur katiliyorum, bu sistem askeri anlamda dogru kullanildigi takdirde cok etkili bir silah cokta yararli olur ama bu adim bana gore daha da onemlisi siyasi politik boyutta Turkiyeyi rahatlatir. Bazi cevreleri rahatsiz etmekle birlikte bizim elimizi guclendirecektir!
 
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