Type 075 Landing Helicopter Dock (LHD) News & Discussions

[english_man]

Which shipyard will be building the 075? ..........Dalian, JN, HD, HP or some other?

 

[aliaselin]

Which shipyard will be building the 075? ..........Dalian, JN, HD, HP or some other?

HDZH

 

[Salty_Waters]

Spotted at the Wuhan test site:
Hmmm

IMO not CV-18/Type 002-related. Looks more like a large LHD, but with an angled deck ??!!

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Hello Deino, and all the others around.

That's my first post in that forum. Nevertheless, I'am following quite a while what's going on here and I wan't to share some of my thoughts and ideas.

So far for introduction (more will follow in members area).

The site, you and the others wondering around has a quite simple reason. That site can be found easily at mulan lake appr. 40km northeast of Wuhan City.

It is not a Mockup for Type 001A, 002, 003 or the LHD type 075.
It is not some kind of Hotel/Casino or any leasure facility.

That site belongs to the PLAN. It is a training facility for aircraft carrier ground personel, with the special purpose of fire fighting training.

The bridge/Island is build as solid concrete structure, not like the Mockup in Wuhan, that is steel made. It's purpose is to have in house/under deck fire simulation opportunity.

That rectangular areas on the angled flight deck are burning test / fire fighting areas to fight large areas of burning jet fuel. To make it a bit tougher, at the end of the angled flight deck, is a building with three tunnels, it is a wind machine, to simulate fire fighting situation in an headwind situation. Look closer, there are burning marks, that indicate the fire was blown in stern direction.

On the starboard side just in front of the island is a ramp, to get rolling equipment or other mockups easily on and of the training deck.

Would be interesting, if someone can figure out the name of the facility. Maybe some chinese speaking guy can harvest the internet for a fire fighting training facility at Mulan Lake.

 

[Deino]

Hmm ... ??!!!

https://twitter.com/x/status/846005814900867076

 

[lcloo]

Actually he is an admiral of PLAN（海军中将）, and the news described HDZH as the place for building frigates and Landing Ships (i.e. Amphibious warfare ships).

And the visit concerns some "new equipment" which indicate new type of ship of large displacement. Thus the speculation of 075 LHD which is highly probable.

And it is a rare occsassion for an admiral to visit a shipyard unless something big is happening.

 

[lcloo]

A credible insider (Miao Miao) posted today the following

这个问题最近太多人微信我了，统一回复下：

1，关于最近海提督去视察，不用说，就是小平顶，其他不值得去，没事也不会来。上任提督来广船是开大奶妈。054B首条应该在HP，据说也差不多了。
Definitely it is a little flat top (i.e. helicopter carrier), or else it is not worth (the time) for the navy chief to visit the shipyard.

2，有关开工时间，这个在国内的那个啥，以某级别老大去的开工时间为准，所以很明确，已经“法定”开工，就是提督去的时间。
In China, official commencement of work is defined by date of ceremony, i.e. date of visit by Navy Chief.

3，有关切钢板，和当年01A什么一类的一样，早就下料切了，就在2016-2017跨年期间，具体时间不知道，至少搞了4个多月。Steel cutting has began at least 4 months ago

4，有关分段啥的，那个好料，切板啥的，既然都搞了几个月了。现在应该是在有分段的了，合拢就算了，还需要时间。
some Module blocks should have been fabricated by now, considered that steel cutting began several months ago, though the assembly of the module will take time.

 

[Kiss_of_the_Dragon]

I don't like China to too much diversify to get different toys but concentrate the resource on key technologies to defeat enemy: I once read an article that Japan is willing to pay 10 to 15 time the moneys on key technology that allow their weapons to defeat Chinese counter-part such as F-15 against J-11..) with numerical inferiority but crush blow superiority: they're counting to win the first round encounter and to crush China military moral and will to fight and give them the good start. If China just want with "just good enough" military hardware then China will be in danger, China need to identify the key technology to win the war and not just "oh Japan has the Helico carrier, we should also make one."

 

[BHarwana]

I don't like China to too much diversify to get different toys but concentrate the resource on key technologies to defeat enemy: I once read an article that Japan is willing to pay 10 to 15 time the moneys on key technology that allow their weapons to defeat Chinese counter-part such as F-15 against J-11..) with numerical inferiority but crush blow superiority: they're counting to win the first round encounter and to crush China military moral and will to fight and give them the good start. If China just want with "just good enough" military hardware then China will be in danger, China need to identify the key technology to win the war and not just "oh Japan has the Helico carrier, we should also make one."

This toy is strategically necessary for SCS as helecopter is the best tool for Sub hunting and this tool id mainly aimed at India's french subs and fas troop deployment if helicopter carrier and Aircraft carrier work in coordination it is like a full fledged base with both air support and ground support. If UK had both of these tools in war with Argentina this all would have been a easy success for UK. China is modernizing military after extensive research of past war, it is a good move.

 

[Bloom 17]

Z-10 navy version may looks like this on our future LHD

the camo paint job is amazing

 

[lcloo]

I don't like China to too much diversify to get different toys but concentrate the resource on key technologies to defeat enemy: I once read an article that Japan is willing to pay 10 to 15 time the moneys on key technology that allow their weapons to defeat Chinese counter-part such as F-15 against J-11..) with numerical inferiority but crush blow superiority: they're counting to win the first round encounter and to crush China military moral and will to fight and give them the good start. If China just want with "just good enough" military hardware then China will be in danger, China need to identify the key technology to win the war and not just "oh Japan has the Helico carrier, we should also make one."

Strangely you wrote this post.... LHA or LHP is essential to Mainland China's amphibious operations if Taiwan declares independence or during conflicts in South China Sea, it is also a very effective anti-submarine asset whereby it can deploy multiple sub-hunting helicopters against enemy subs threatening Chinese shippings.

Really, I don't see that PLAN is building a helicopter carrier just because Japan has it.

 

[waja2000]

Actually he is an admiral of PLAN（海军中将）, and the news described HDZH as the place for building frigates and Landing Ships (i.e. Amphibious warfare ships).

And the visit concerns some "new equipment" which indicate new type of ship of large displacement. Thus the speculation of 075 LHD which is highly probable.

And it is a rare occsassion for an admiral to visit a shipyard unless something big is happening.

mostly is First steel cutting ceremony or laid down the keel of ship ....

 

[帅的一匹]

I don't like China to too much diversify to get different toys but concentrate the resource on key technologies to defeat enemy: I once read an article that Japan is willing to pay 10 to 15 time the moneys on key technology that allow their weapons to defeat Chinese counter-part such as F-15 against J-11..) with numerical inferiority but crush blow superiority: they're counting to win the first round encounter and to crush China military moral and will to fight and give them the good start. If China just want with "just good enough" military hardware then China will be in danger, China need to identify the key technology to win the war and not just "oh Japan has the Helico carrier, we should also make one."

日本人不是个！这次再敢放肆，倾全国之力灭它。

I don't like China to too much diversify to get different toys but concentrate the resource on key technologies to defeat enemy: I once read an article that Japan is willing to pay 10 to 15 time the moneys on key technology that allow their weapons to defeat Chinese counter-part such as F-15 against J-11..) with numerical inferiority but crush blow superiority: they're counting to win the first round encounter and to crush China military moral and will to fight and give them the good start. If China just want with "just good enough" military hardware then China will be in danger, China need to identify the key technology to win the war and not just "oh Japan has the Helico carrier, we should also make one."

日本人不是个！这次再敢放肆，倾全国之力灭它！我捐30万！

 

[Deino]

By the way a maybe stupid question from a non-naval guy: Can anyone explain the issue concerning that shipyard in Shanghai ?? There are reports the yard is HDZH but otherwise the Type 055 DDG are and Type 002 CV is expected to be build at JNCX !!!

I'm now confused since I thought only JNCX and Dalian are capable to build such huge military vessels ... or are HDZH and JNCX the same yard ??

Thanks in advance,
Deino

 

[帅的一匹]

By the way a maybe stupid question from a non-naval guy: Can anyone explain the issue concerning that shipyard in Shanghai ?? There are reports the yard is HDZH but otherwise the Type 055 DDG are and Type 002 CV is expected to be build at JNCX !!!

I'm now confused since I thought only JNCX and Dalian are capable to build such huge military vessels ... or are HDZH and JNCX the same yard ??

Thanks in advance,
Deino

HDZH and JNCX is two different shipyard. Type 071 LPD is built in HDZH, it's not surprise they build new Type 075 LHD. JNCX will be dedicated in building DDG and Carrier. HDZH also build type 054A and type 056 corvette. Said HuangPu is now producing the first type 054B, we will see it in the near future.

 

[Deino]

HDZH and JNCX is two different shipyard. Type 071 LPD is built in HDZH, it's not surprise they build new Type 075 LHD. JNCX will be dedicated in building DDG and Carrier. HDZH also build type 054A and type 056 corvette. Said HuangPu is now producing the first type 054B, we will see it in the near future.

Thanks ... but where are both located in Shanghai ?