Type 052D DDG revealed

[Beast]

Singapore is Dominated by Han Chinese right? Are they friendly with China?

They are pro American. The economy is dependent mostly on US market but China market is equally important to their growth too recently.

End of the day, they try to be friendly to both but US will be prority to their survival.

 

[HongWu]

If so J-21 is avaliable in a carrer version, would that mean india's Mig 29K with high cross section radar is useless?

Anything india operates is likely to be useless because of indian incompetence.

And tye New sub should have 100+ Cruise missile like the virgina class. It can devestate a South east asian nation like Vietnam and Phillipines.

Ohio has 100+ cruise missiles and Type 095 will carry cruise missiles as well.

China should have 30 Type 52D with new K class ABM, 50 new 12,000 class Ships with Space warfare systems and 69 Nuclear subs and a DF-21 missile on board a Distroyer (Naval version).

The Type 043 Qing class diesel-electric submarine carries a single DF-21D anti-ship ballistic missile (naval version).

Plus 300 J-20 for naval Patrol under PLAAF command and Four Carriers in the future.

J-20 will definitely have naval patrol duties because China's most likely future wars will be naval. The Varyag will enter service this year, another 2 conventional propulsion carriers will enter service within 5 years. Then another 2 nuclear propulsion carriers will enter service 5 years after that (~2022).

 

[индусск&]

nice work up for china

 

[Abdi-Karim Elmi]

They are pro American. The economy is dependent mostly on US market but China market is equally important to their growth too recently.

End of the day, they try to be friendly to both but US will be prority to their survival.

In order to expand Chinese markets and navy, China needs ports in the African continants and Have a naval base in the Indian ocean.

Anything india operates is likely to be useless because of indian incompetence.


Ohio has 100+ cruise missiles and Type 095 will carry cruise missiles as well.


The Type 043 Qing class diesel-electric submarine carries a single DF-21D anti-ship ballistic missile (naval version).


J-20 will definitely have naval patrol duties because China's most likely future wars will be naval. The Varyag will enter service this year, another 2 conventional propulsion carriers will enter service within 5 years. Then another 2 nuclear propulsion carriers will enter service 5 years after that (~2022).

With this type of navy, the PLAN would dominate the East pacific and Make the Phillipines crap in there pants. This naval plan would make china dominate in the Insldian ocean as well.

*Indian ocean as well.

nice work up for china

Is russia on china side in the pacific (remember exersise)

 

[skyknight]

Russia is always on his own side，
cooperation with China in some international affairs now is in Russia's interest,
but not including the disputes in the west Pacific。

 

[no_name]

Speculated CG of the New 130mm Main Gun

What does the tube like thing that runs along the gun barrel do? I've seen that with Russian and Chinese (which derived from russia) guns but not on western ones.

Does it operate a gas piston from the exhausts to reload the gun?

 

[skyknight]

What does the tube like thing that runs along the gun barrel do? I've seen that with Russian and Chinese (which derived from russia) guns but not on western ones.

Does it operate a gas piston from the exhausts to reload the gun?

It is water-cooling pipe，it is used in French navy gun too.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

Type 052D 3D art concept

http://bbs.meyet.com/data/attachment/forum/201208/27/1145088s3p0np3iaizgz21.jpg

 

[UKBengali]

Anything india operates is likely to be useless because of indian incompetence.


Ohio has 100+ cruise missiles and Type 095 will carry cruise missiles as well.


The Type 043 Qing class diesel-electric submarine carries a single DF-21D anti-ship ballistic missile (naval version).


J-20 will definitely have naval patrol duties because China's most likely future wars will be naval. The Varyag will enter service this year, another 2 conventional propulsion carriers will enter service within 5 years. Then another 2 nuclear propulsion carriers will enter service 5 years after that (~2022).

Do you think the eventual plan is for China to have a Navy as powerful as the US to make sure that no-one can blackmail China?

Maybe not as many carriers as the US, but lots of modern SSNs to scare the US to stop it from ever threatening to interfere with Chinese merchant trade with other countries all over the world.

 

[Diamond_Gold]

They are pro American. The economy is dependent mostly on US market but China market is equally important to their growth too recently.

End of the day, they try to be friendly to both but US will be prority to their survival.

Pro-american doesn't mean we would act strictly according to america's order or will. Singapore's utimate grand vision is to help not only ourselves but also our asian neighbours to develop, to co-exist peacefully and to cooperate among us in order to forge a stronger and a more prosperous asia.

In general, asians are all hardworkers and are capable to upgrade their skills and own livinghood if their governments are genuinely working for their people and stop being made use by others to destroy/sabortage our or other's long hard earned progress.

 

[anarchy 99]

Pro-american doesn't mean we would act strictly according to america's order or will. Singapore's utimate grand vision is to help not only ourselves but also our asian neighbours to develop, to co-exist peacefully and to cooperate among us in order to forge a stronger and a more prosperous asia.

In general, asians are all hardworkers and are capable to upgrade their skills and own livinghood if their governments are genuinely working for their people and stop being made use by others to destroy/sabortage our or other's long hard earned progress.

Then stop giving a military base to that fascist American regime.

 

[Beast]

Do you think the eventual plan is for China to have a Navy as powerful as the US to make sure that no-one can blackmail China?

Maybe not as many carriers as the US, but lots of modern SSNs to scare the US to stop it from ever threatening to interfere with Chinese merchant trade with other countries all over the world.

Powerful PLAN is to fight proxy war and protect Chinese interest overseas. Chinese ballistic Missile is the real thing to knock off USN.

 

[Akasa]

Within five years the Chinese Navy would possess carrier battle groups that are second to none to the United States' carrier battle groups.

The equipment and expertise are now gaining appearance and are being tested. Such a carrier battle group would include:

- Type 085 carrier (Huitong mentioned that it might feature steam catapults)
- J-15 4.5 generation fighter, fitted with the latest AESA, integrated electronics, and various fifth generation airframe enhancements
- J-21 5th generation fighter, its own equivalent of the F-35C, but much stealthier and more versatile
- Sharp Sword stealth UCAV (equivalent of X-47, military insiders confirmed its first flight to be this year)
- Z-8AEW (very powerful AESA equipped helicopter)
- Y-7 AWACS
- Type 095 submarine, adopting a very similar configuration to the newest Virginia class submarine, and carries vertically launched cruise missiles (first is under construction according to military insiders)
- Type 052D air defense destroyer: upgraded with next generation AESA, universal VLS, etc
- Type 055 cruiser: to be a very large modern cruiser equivalent to the Tico
- Type 054A frigate

The PLA Marine Corps would also commission its first Type 081 LHD, supplemented by Type 071 and destroyers.

Technology wise, the PLA Navy surface combatants would be almost comparable to the US Navy in a few years. However, it is the quantity of destroyers and equipment that we still need work on.

 

[Oldman1]

Do you think the eventual plan is for China to have a Navy as powerful as the US to make sure that no-one can blackmail China?

Maybe not as many carriers as the US, but lots of modern SSNs to scare the US to stop it from ever threatening to interfere with Chinese merchant trade with other countries all over the world.

We have enough SSNs to stop China interfering with trade in Asia. Not to mention invading other Asian nations.

 

[UKBengali]

We have enough SSNs to stop China interfering with trade in Asia. Not to mention invading other Asian nations.

I was talking about China going for maybe around 5-6 carriers max and then building 30 extra SSNs to give added punch to it's Navy. One carrier battle group could easily cost the same as 20 SSNs when you count the cost of the aircraft carrier, aircraft and the escorts.

It could be a more cost effecting way of keeping the US at bay in areas like the East Pacific, South Indian and Atlantic Oceans than building many more carrier battle groups.

In East Pacific and South China Sea China's Navy, airforce and the DF-21D would take care of the US Navy.