Two billion Muslims do nothing Shame. Retired General Asim munier is only man in 2 billions with atomic bomb

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Short and excellent explanation of the rise of Arab nationalism.

Everything today, even in South Asia, is the result of imperialism and nationalism (actually pseudo-nationalism), not Islam.

I disagree with the narrator only in that I think the first Arab nationalist was Sharif Hussein of Makkah himself, not his son. He wanted to be Khalifa of Arabs.

 

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Islam can be a moral guide to politics (ethics) based on belief and submission to God, represented by a righteous Khalifa. The notion that religion can be incorporated into nationalism politicizes and destroys the purpose of religion. Allah created humanity with many nationalities, languages, ethnicities, cultures, races, and tribes to know one another.

Atheists, extremists, racists and nationalists think religion is culture which can be used as a political tool and weapon against humanity. Then you have people saying to separate religion from politics which also shows misunderstanding of the purpose of religion (moral guide).

 

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Saudi: Religion and politics should be separate.

That means nothing is really wrong or evil as long as it happens to others. It allowed the genocide of Arabs/Muslims. The ongoing Gaza genocide became a "political event", and "who cancels a music concert for a political event". That is what happens when you separate religion from politics.

 

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Khalifa Umar to Amr: "O Amr, when did you enslave the people when their mothers bore them free?".

Every human is born in freedom which should never be taken away. Without upholding freedom and morality, bloodbaths would be a common occurrence in politics, like tribal warfare among savages. That is why it is necessary to make constitutional principles on righteousness to guarantee basic rights, freedom, and dignity.

Else, live as slave of the idol ruler who chooses to kill, jail, or torture his subjects based on his pleasure, like in the ancient Semitic civilizations. I would say that is better than modern nation states, especially nationalism, fascism, and communism, where you are slave to an ideology. On top of that you may also be slave to a tyrannical idol ruler as well as a political party.

 

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Calling them Muslim Zionist is a contradiction. Better to call them by their sect, Madkhali Zionist (Branch of Salafi).

 

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Timestamped.

Muslim soldiers from India fighting the Ottomans would be overwhelmingly Pakistani (mostly Punjabi). Greater Saudi Arabia and Pakistan are creations of imperialism and nationalism (not Islam). Terrorist and extremist groups using Islam are products of the same.

 

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What does this have to do with Islam? But they are called Islamist. Politicizing religion is product of imperialism and nationalism.

 

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In 1908, the rise of Turkish nationalism under Young Turk Nationalists resulted in the rise of Arab nationalism. Young Turks were now the real power and the Ottoman Khalifa was only a figurehead. The mistake Turkish nationalists made was to suppress Arab nationalism. This ripped the Ottoman empire apart, with British and French imperialists taking advantage.

Arabs showed astonishing stupidity, lack of pride, ignorance of Quran and history, by giving power and authority to those who coveted the Semitic and Near East civilizations since the days of ancient Roman empire. They also saw it as their own Holy Land since the Holy Roman empire, fighting centuries of genocidal war (crusades) to keep it.

 

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Muslim soldiers from India fighting the Ottomans would be overwhelmingly Pakistani (mostly Punjabi).

Most likely they would be 100% Pakistani, definitely well over 90%, fighting for the British empire in Makkah and Medinah killing Ottoman Muslim soldiers. Let that sink in, Britain rewarded them for it. Pakistani establishment is Anglophile like the Arab Khaleeji and Jordan vassals. Point is they have no basis in Islam, and the history of Islam, as they fought to destroy the Khilafat (not to replace it). Nation state cannot be Khalifa, a person is.

 

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'Prince Faisal was a fool. He hoisted the flag of the Arab Nationalist Revolt in Beirut, given to him by the imperialists who betrayed him'.

 

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Explains why Arabs talk like the US/UK is in charge of the Middle East, appealing and pleading to the 'international community'.

 

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@Blackfoot100 6 days ago
"Great information. You never hear any Muslim scholarship talk about this subject, how many Muslims know that history."

Non Arab Muslims generally don't know this history. Arab Muslims don't talk about it because they don't have the freedom to, or are ashamed to. They will be in jail accused of extremism if they say their ruler is a puppet or a tyrant. Today's Arabs, especially the elite, shouldn't be considered Muslim. The step toward liberation is to end the scam called OIC.

 

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Then there is also the case where non Arabs, especially from third world countries, would not want to talk about this to avoid ruining their relations with 'brotherly Arabs' (lie) because they want menial jobs in their countries and aid money from oil wealth. Others would not want to embarrass them and fear reprisals.

It is much more convenient to pretend Arabs are the righteous companions of the Prophet who simultaneously took on the might of the Roman and Persian empires and defeated them. Arab extremists try to emulate this and fail.

However, the majority of Arabs are pro-Roman (West) and a minority love the Persians. The pro-Romans want to normalize Zionism and will do anything, corrupt Islam and genocide Arabs/Muslims for this purpose.

 

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Saudi Arabia is bound to the US in many ways, right, but he thinks Saudi regime and the people are different.

I have not seen evidence for that. There is no general anti-colonial, anti-imperial sentiment among GCC countries, atleast among the Sunni population.

As far as I know, there was only one Arab chief who was anti-British and pro Ottoman before WW1, who lost to Saud. The rest had no problem with British imperial hegemony.