Turkish Peace Operations in Syria (Operation Olive Branch) Updates & Discussions

[kartal1]

Well,if you think i would sit and cry or ever give up anything,you didnt read much of my posts on various forums,im the one telling others not to open pitiful threads about my country or people,not to make us look weak or desperate.
Unlike many crybabies here on internet im actually doing something in the real world and if you live in the real world,you know that it is all fvcked up which is called realism(the attitude or practice of accepting a situation as it is and being prepared to deal with it accordingly.),so i deal with it.
If there is nothing you are willing or able to do,what use is it to talk here about hope or change?
I dont believe in fairy tales.


The situation is different from WWI,we have been fvcked by our own,we are not one unit anymore,how can you even think of a person like Ataturk when there is only devide,Turks hate each other,there is no need for an enemy.
Who can you trust?
Feto,Seculars Ataturk's way,PKK supporters,AKP lovers,so called CHP Kemalist and the best part,most work with each other only when money is involved.
Do you really think there is something left of ''Vatan Millet''?
There is no more,''we all are different but united against our outside enemies'',it became a dream world.
Im saying it again,im a realist.

I respect you for what you do and I see in how bad situation we are in and I work and improve myself in order to be able to contribute in a way that I am made to. I cant talk about how much I contributed for now because I am to young but the future is mine and if nothing bad happens to me I have plans and a lot of work to do. If everything goes right promises were given to me to letting me serve and contribute the best way I can. Their fall is matter of time. And for the trust... as long as motherland lovers like me and you trust each other I dont care. We are not alone and only.

 

[Mr.Department]

Well,if you think i would sit and cry or ever give up anything,you didnt read much of my posts on various forums,im the one telling others not to open pitiful threads about my country or people,not to make us look weak or desperate.
Unlike many crybabies here on internet im actually doing something in the real world and if you live in the real world,you know that it is all fvcked up which is called realism(the attitude or practice of accepting a situation as it is and being prepared to deal with it accordingly.),so i deal with it.
If there is nothing you are willing or able to do,what use is it to talk here about hope or change?
I dont believe in fairy tales.


The situation is different from WWI,we have been fvcked by our own,we are not one unit anymore,how can you even think of a person like Ataturk when there is only devide,Turks hate each other,there is no need for an enemy.
Who can you trust?
Feto,Seculars Ataturk's way,PKK supporters,AKP lovers,so called CHP Kemalist and the best part,most work with each other only when money is involved.
Do you really think there is something left of ''Vatan Millet''?
There is no more,''we all are different but united against our outside enemies'',it became a dream world.
Im saying it again,im a realist.

Brother, it is not worth to be pessimistic or even depressive. Life is short. It is the virtual space and a soapbubble of the Internet. Even here many members fighted each other. But it is not worth to look back. Let's leave all politics beside and try to start again constructive conversations and threads, without reacting to provocations. I am not a professional motivation trainer and not perfect in English, but In Turkish and German I could motivate you so that you rethink. There are many issues we never can't influence. So I say "Hayirlisi" and have a good Night.

 

[T-123456]

I respect you for what you do and I see in how bad situation we are in and I work and improve myself in order to be able to contribute in a way that I am made to. I cant talk about how much I contributed for now because I am to young but the future is mine and if nothing bad happens to me I have plans and a lot of work to do. If everything goes right promises were given to me to letting me serve and contribute the best way I can. Their fall is matter of time. And for the trust... as long as motherland lovers like me and you trust each other I dont care. We are not alone and only.

I wish you good luck for your future,im sure you'll get there.

Brother, it is not worth to be pessimistic or even depressive. Life is short. It is the virtual space and a soapbubble of the Internet. Even here many members fighted each other. But it is not worth to look back. Let's leave all politics beside and try to start again constructive conversations and threads, without reacting to provocations. I am not a professional motivation trainer and not perfect in English, but In Turkish and German I could motivate you so that you rethink. There are many issues we never can't influence. So I say "Hayirlisi" and have a good Night.

Again,you didnt get what i meant,there is a difference between pessimism and realism,try to see the difference.

They will never attack us, how expensive was it to invade Iraq? It will be even more expensive to attack Turkey. If they do a small strike they know we will never trust them with Anything ever again, not that we trust them very much anyways.

You know the word ''attack'' means alot of things,why do you think we didnt start anymore operations?
There is soft power,if they ''attack'' our fragile(dont forget the word,very fragile) economy,there is no way in hell we will recover in a couple of years,it will take us back three decades.

 

[Mr.Department]

pessimism and realism

I got it, no worry. But believe in KARMA too .
I did some crazy things, which saved and changed the road of my life.

if they ''attack'' our fragile(dont forget the word,very fragile) economy

Aren't they already doing with Zarrab and Atilla Case, Tourism Boykot from Europe ?

 

[T-123456]

Aren't they already doing with Zarrab and Atilla Case, Tourism Boykot from Europe ?

No,they would start with the various economic loans and stocks,after that,stopping all the investments in the country.

 

[Mr.Department]

There is soft power

I mentioned the example cases as hostile soft tests and soft threats. They should go to hell.
Kim "The Rocket" eats rice only but he stays upright.
If they do, a new world will be founded and Turkey will got its place there.
Remember between 1959 and 1961 almost 30 Million Chinese died cause hunger.

 

[era_shield]

They revealed the whole plan before the operation even started, why cant they just talk less and do more?

The operation requires a lot of diplomatic negotiation which means the PKK would've found out about it regardless. In that light, not being the first to reveal the operation would've been a mistake because then the PKK can be the first to "reveal" it which is an opportunity they would've used to spread lies.

We should ask why there happens no Sri-Lanka model solution.
Jungle warfare is as difficult as in the mountains.

Because the Tamil Tigers made the mistake of antagonising their main backer - India - who then turned against them.

 

[TheCamelGuy]

Brothers, I understand your frustration but a new operation to northern Syria will happen it is just a matter of when and how none of the parties can get in the way of this.

This is Turkish state tradition, we always give a million warnings before invading anywhere. Look at Cyprus and all our incursions into northern Iraq, Syria etc

and don’t under estimate the power of TSK it makes these Kurdish commies and Arab ISIS lovers sh*t there pants however the game is political here not just militarily.

We are most probably discussion about right now who will take what in the new Syria. Look at Al Bab, and ES zones they are practically a part of Turkey at the moment. Our lands will expand but slowly.

Everyone gives warnings before invading to establish some form of legitimacy for it.

Expanding lands and threatening is wrong thinking

 

[Hamzza]

They plan but Allah is the best of planners.

 

[Blackwolf12]

I wish you good luck for your future,im sure you'll get there.


Again,you didnt get what i meant,there is a difference between pessimism and realism,try to see the difference.


You know the word ''attack'' means alot of things,why do you think we didnt start anymore operations?
There is soft power,if they ''attack'' our fragile(dont forget the word,very fragile) economy,there is no way in hell we will recover in a couple of years,it will take us back three decades.

Yes ofcourse you are right, but the result is the same. If America does serious economic attacks against us it will only push us further into the Russian/Chinese camp. Although we are already seeing the effects of this.

I thought you were referring to an attack of hard power, that is why I wrote my last response.

 

[KediKesenFare3]

But they're doing a good job in Iraq, I think. It's nice to see that the government learns from its mistakes at least.

https://twitter.com/x/status/945442741244321797

 

[kartal1]

But they're doing a good job in Iraq, I think. It's nice to see that the government learns from its mistakes at least.

https://twitter.com/x/status/945442741244321797

The situation in Iraq is different from that in Syria. Those are preparations for wide scale operations. Its already time to end it. It took to much.

 

[T-123456]

Yes ofcourse you are right, but the result is the same. If America does serious economic attacks against us it will only push us further into the Russian/Chinese camp. Although we are already seeing the effects of this.

I thought you were referring to an attack of hard power, that is why I wrote my last response.

Besides the hard power,there is no economic gain from Russia or China,the trade balance is negative for us.
We would be losing on many fronts.
The US is not that important(not much investments) but if we lose Europe,the country is doomed and it looks like this could be a reality sooner then we think.

 

[Khagan1923]

Love those kurdish accounts with western names. They are second to those who only can write in Turkish never spoke a word of kurdish but support pkk. Morons all of them.

 

[u.MP]

Love those kurdish accounts with western names. They are second to those who only can write in Turkish never spoke a word of kurdish but support pkk. Morons all of them.

Yes, sadly they have gained the sympathy of dumb westerners on the left and the right.