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dBSPL said:
Tübitak SAGE Manager Gürcan Okumuş: "The point we have reached in terms of RamJet engines will carry us to the point of being among the few countries in the world in liquid fuel RamJet engine and, in the future, ScramJet engine technologies.

In the background, huge developments are taking place on an incredible scale. In the next year, the secrecy on projects that would be unbelievable in terms of the understanding of 10 years ago in the defense industry, especially in the field of missile technologies, will be lifted. There will be a busy agenda regarding hypersonic air-to-air and anti-radiation missiles.
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Salaams brother

Does Turkey have an indigenous Anti-radiation missile at this moment?
 
There are both kamikaze drone and missile projects with anti-radiation quality. Both have come to an end. In 3-4 years, they will enter the inventory in large quantities.
 

Gökdoğan and Bozdoğan are preparing for mass production​

Gökdoğan and Bozdoğan are preparing for mass production



03/06/2022 11:30

TÜBİTAK SAGE Manager Gürcan Okumuş: “We are now in the final phase of this project. Bozdoğan, Gökdoğan is at a very positive point”​

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Gürcan Okumuş, Director of the TÜBİTAK Defense Industry Research and Development Institute (SAGE), stated that they are conducting studies and analyzes on the serial production of Gökdoğan and Bozdoğan missiles, whose projects are in the final phase.
Okumuş told AA correspondent at the MMG-EURITECH Eurasia R&D, Innovation & Technology Summit and Exhibition held in Informatics Valley that Turkey has made significant progress in layered air defense systems, although it started a little late. , said that some of the close air defense, medium and long range air defense system projects have been completed and new projects have been opened.
Stating that they also carry out projects as an air-to-air missile, which is a part of the air defense system, Okumuş noted that they have made significant progress in this area and that the project is at the completion stage.
Okumuş stated that they have also started working on ramjet versions, and said:
“We are working on the Trench project, which we call a layered air defense system, as part of the business partnership. Air-to-air missiles are high-tech special missiles. There are many examples in the world, as the AIM-120, AIM-9Xs turned into NASAMS, as the Pythons turned into Spyder, they always turn from air-air missiles to missiles that are part of a layered air defense system launched from land or from a ship. Turkey should follow the same path. The projects of our air-air missiles continue. While equipping our planes with our own missiles, we will work with the land and ship-launched versions of these missiles, and we will gain capability for near-ship air defense systems and again for land point air defense systems. There are those that are projected, there are those that we carry out as our own internal projects.
Production infrastructure developed as a result of the project.
Stating that there are AIM120, AIM-9X and various variants of them in the inventory as air-to-air missiles, Okumuş pointed out that by making their own air-air missiles, from software to hardware, they will have missiles that they know everything about.
Stating that the projects of Okumuş, Gökdoğan and Bozdoğan have reached the final stage, he explained that they have started the ground tests and that they are currently continuing with the real tests thrown from the aircraft.
Sharing the knowledge that they also conduct studies and analyzes on mass production, Okumuş said, “We are now in the final phase of this project. Bozdoğan, Gökdoğan is at a very positive point. Mass production of a missile essentially means mass production activities where you work with your subcontractors, manufacture critical components and do the final assembly. You already have to produce a large number of missiles within the scope of the project. We have already produced a large number of Gökdoğan and Bozdoğan missiles. We used some of them in ground tests, some of them in environmental tests, some of them in real shooting and we continue to use them. From that point of view, the production capability was already formed.” made its assessment.
Okumuş drew attention to the fact that these missiles are not products produced in high numbers and said, “Costly, niche products. Products that can be made with the production infrastructures we call boutique production. At this point, these infrastructures had already developed as a result of the project. Therefore, at this point in mass production, it will continue in the same way. These products do not require a special mass production infrastructure.” he said.
 
dBSPL said:
Strong Algeria means peace and stability in the Mediterranean. If there is such a demand, the Turkish state should immediately show all the convenience.
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Turkey is a good solution for Algeria as we have seen Russian equipment is unreliable.

Chinese equipment is yet to be judged in effectiveness until we see it used in combat and Algeria doesn’t buy American systems.
 
Philip the Arab said:
Turkey is a good solution for Algeria as we have seen Russian equipment is unreliable.

Chinese equipment is yet to be judged in effectiveness until we see it used in combat and Algeria doesn’t buy American systems.
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On the basis of the platform, the Algerian navy command and related authorities has already determined its roadmap. British and Italian companies come to the fore in naval aviation, and German, Russian and Chinese companies in naval ship structuring. While there are Italian partners in the amphibious group, it is seen that they employ French shipyards in patrol boats.

How can Turkiye support Algeria in this regard? I do not want to go into details and create polemics here, but some of these countries have very strict export restrictions, especially on navy exports. There are big differences in capability between the systems they use and the ones they export. At this point, Turkiye can help Algeria complete such blind spots, if there are any, on a subsystem basis. ATMACA is a very capable and open-ended missile, yet most people don't realize it's an important power multiplier. If I have time soon, I will write a few more details about it.
 
It would be a miraculous job to sell weapons to both Morocco and Algeria at the same time and to maintain good relations with both!

Sometimes you can't do things even if you want to. IMHO, Algeria cannot buy such qualified and highly effective weapons from any country other than China.
 
Zarvan said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1533034902920343552

https://twitter.com/x/status/1533044078425817088
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MAM-L is a variant developed over L-UMTAS. And MAM-C is a variant developed over the CİRİT missile. But SAGE's BOZOK smart ammunition developed directly on the basis of drone systems and will be positioned between MAM-C and MAM-L.

Kuzgun, on the other hand, is far beyond this class and due to its fully modular system architecture, it will be the Swiss army knife for many manned and unmanned air/sea/land platforms.
 
I'm genuienly curious. Why doesn't Turkey have longer ranged missiles, despite all its other modernatizations. 300km or such is the longest range they have. They've advanced a lot in drone warfare and other areas, I'm curious as to why developing missiles with more range hasn't been done as of yet? @dBSPL
 

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