Turkish Minister of National Defense Yaşar Güler: We are considering purchasing 40 Eurofighter Typhoons

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If they say no, and you keep asking, it's called begging.

They are not saying NO

They are saying YES , but if you do that
Endless political requests

If they says NO , then Turkiye will head towards Russia and China as like FD-2000 and S400

 

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Things don't go as they dream There are facts

Your Post have a lot of false info and wishful thinking

First, the West sees Turkey’s colonial policy against Iraq, Syria, Greece, and the Eastern Mediterranean as natural for it to manipulate Turkey and not give it anything.

FACT
The West is only Colonial bandit in Iraq , Syria and in the Eastern Mediterranean

on the other hand
Turkiye is 100% right to fight PKK/YPG terrorists in Iraq and Syria
UN article 51 to fight terrorism for self defense

The Turks are under the illusion of their racial superiority and technical superiority over the East, and they are superior to the countries, but the countries ignore them.

Turkiye doesnt care about the East
Turkiye has its own Defense Industry to develop everything

Problem is time
Turkiye needs more 10 years to develop its own 35.000 lbs Engine

 

[buntalanlucu]

Turkey should buy their own domesstically produced jets and drones.. and stop buying export version of jets from EU or US

or they can buy the top jet in this world , better than any NATO jets .. the SU57 or the J20

 

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Turkey received only 10 GE-F110-129 engines from America for testing, i.e. fighter jets for testing, and did not offer to provide 40 engines, as it says.

TAI said 20 KAAN Fighter Jets will be delievered to the Turkish Air Force in 2028
even TAI will produce 7 KAAN prototypes in the next 2 years

that means Turkiye recieves more than 10 GE-F110-129 engines

Manufacturing engines for fighters is complex. India has been 30 years and has not succeeded in developing the KAVERI engine. It is true that the West has blocked many technologies from Turkey and has even overtaken Turkey on Western technologies and support from intermediary companies due to Turkey being a member of NATO.

Turkiye is not India

Turkiye has developed TEI TS-1400 Gas turbine turboshaft Engine withing 7 years

Turkiye has bliks-spool manufacturing and single crystal blade technology for Engines
only USA , UK , France , China , Turkiye , maybe also Russia-Ukraine


T-625 Helicopter made maiden flight with indigenous TEI TS-1400 turboshaft Engine

T-625 Helicopter with TEI TS-1400 turboshaft Engine delivery start in 2025

Turkiye develops low-bypass turbofan Engines
6.000 lbs TF-6000 turbofan Engine to power ANKA-3 stealth UCAV
10.000 lbs TF-10.000 turbofan Engine to power KIZILELMA unmanned stealth Fighter Jet

and 35.000 lbs turbofan Engine will be ready to power KAAN Fighter Jet in 2032

The design presented for the Engine that has been under development for 1.5 years

 

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The balance of power has already changed

Greece has already expanded its F-16 upgrade program and has received the first 12 aircraft so far

12 F-16V can not change anything
F-16V has AESA Radar ... but AESA Radar is nothing to do with dog fight


in BVR combat Turkish Air Force has great network centric warfare capability

Greece has network centric warfare capability with only 30 F-16 Block52+ adv and 12 F-16V now

Turkiye has 163 CCIP modernized F-16s with link-16 data link for network centric warfare capability



Network centric warfare capability
Greece : 42 F-16s
Turkiye : 163 F-16s

Turkish F-16 pilot can see the position of enemy elements even if they are out of radar range and commence an attack or evasive maneuver according to this information

Thanks to 4 Boeing E-7T AEWCs with 600 km MESA Radar

E-7T AEWC can detect Greek F-16V from 350+ km away and can guide 120km AIM-120C7 air to air missiles in BVR combat

Lethal combination :
163 CCIP modernized F-16s and 4 Boeing E-7T AEWCs with 600 km MESA Radar

The E-7T AEWC can detect the enemy aircraft and hostile air defense systems with its MESA Radar and Electronic Support system and transmit this information to Turkish F-16s via the Link-16 TDL.




RAFALE can be problem against Turkish F-16s in BVR combat
because of METEOR air to air Missile

but Turkish SIPER Air Defense System will maintain the balance of power in the Aegean

Soon Turkish F-16s will be under protection by SIPER Air Defense Systems which can turn Greek F-16V and RAFALE into scrap of metal

100+ km SIPER Block1 air defense Missile
150+ km SIPER Block2 air defense Missile
250+ km SIPER Block2 air defense Missile with booster

100+ km SIPER Block1 air defense Missile

150+ km SIPER Block2 air defense Missile

250+ km SIPER Block2 air defense Missile with booster

Also Turkiye bought S400 Air Defense Systems to block the Aegean
36 launchers and 192 missiles

240 km 48N6E3 Missile with speed of mach 5.9
380 km 40N6E Missile with speed of mach 3,5

 

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Turkey has been pushed into a corner, and the issue of Turkey developing its drone program is faster. This is not a unique advantage for the Turks only. Any country that wants a drone development program will implement it quickly because the technology and components are easy to obtain from international sources, and competition is accelerating in UCAV programs globally, meaning there is an illusion that Turkey is superior in This field is not real, and if its impact were huge, we would find all air weapons rushing to close any gap.

i disagree with you, indonsia has elang hitam program for years but maiden flight has not achieved yet despite they have an aircraft industry.

on the other hand Turkey is one of very few countries that can manufacture a large drone from scratch, i mean design, manufacture, engine, electronics and software

 

[Foinikas]

Turkiye doesnt care about the East
Turkiye has its own Defense Industry to develop everything

But a lot of your stuff are either Chinese or South Korean copies or even partially South Korean stuff.

Akritas had mentioned it in a good post:

 

[Foinikas]

Also Turkiye bought S400 Air Defense Systems to block the Aegean
36 launchers and 192 missiles

You still go on with the S-400 even though people like @LeGenD @LegionnairE @Hold the door @White and Green with M/S and others have already explained to you that S-400 had was destroyed easily in Ukraine.

And let's face it,Turkey only wants 40 Eurofighter to counter the Greek Rafale. You want 40 F-16Vs to counter the Greek F-16Vs. You say that Turkey can destroy the Greek Air Force so easily. But your government has been trying to get modern aircraft to counter ours.

 

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But a lot of your stuff are either Chinese or South Korean copies or even partially South Korean stuff.

Akritas had mentioned it in a good post:

AKRITAS is an ignorant and liar TROLL ...
typical Greek who believes lies of trash Greek Media

 

[Foinikas]

12 F-16V can not change anything
F-16V has AESA Radar ... but AESA Radar is nothing to do with dog fight


in BVR combat Turkish Air Force has great network centric warfare capability

Greece has network centric warfare capability with only 30 F-16 Block52+ adv and 12 F-16V now

Turkiye has 163 CCIP modernized F-16s with link-16 data link for network centric warfare capability

You have ignored a lot of people's posts on this thread. First of all @LeGenD and then @LegionnairE @Hold the door then @White and Green with M/S and now @sami_1

Instead of posting the same photos again and again,you should read their posts carefully and understand what they are telling you.

 

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You still go on with the S-400 even though people like @LeGenD @LegionnairE @Hold the door @White and Green with M/S and others have already explained to you that S-400 had was destroyed easily in Ukraine.

Not by Fighter Jets
but land based Cruise Missile

Turkiye bought S400s against Fighter Jets
better worry about Ukranian Air Force which was completely destroyed by Russian Air Defense Systems


btw KORKUT , GURZ , HISAR-A/O AD Systems will protect S400s against Cruise Missiles

And SIPER Air Defense System to work with E-7T AEWC

Integrated Air Defense Umbrella against Fighter Jets and Cruise Missiles

and never forget that
Russia is fighting in another country with limited military capability

 

[Foinikas]

AKRITAS is an ignorant and liar TROLL ...
typical Greek who believes lies of trash Greek Media

According to you,everyone on this forum is an ignorant liar and a troll.

@LegionnairE @Hold the door @White and Green with M/S @Deino @Trisolaran @LeGenD @RayKalm read these screenshots:

 

[Trisolaran]

But a lot of your stuff are either Chinese or South Korean copies or even partially South Korean stuff.

Akritas had mentioned it in a good post:

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When making a weapon system, you don't draw a new design from scratch on paper and create something 100% original. Turkey first modified and assembled most of the systems it has used for years, localized most of its parts, and then produced them entirely on its own. J600T missile is completely different story, if I'm not mistaken, we received some short-range ballistic missile technology from the Chinese in exchange for approval to send the Varyag aircraft carrier through the Bosphorus.

According to you,everyone on this forum is an ignorant liar and a troll.

@LegionnairE @Hold the door @White and Green with M/S @Deino @Trisolaran @LeGenD @RayKalm read these screenshots:


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Akritas is online again ? I didnt see him for months

 

[Yawm al-qiyāma]

Those who laughed at my comment about 5000 KAAN's. After KAAN becomes operational Turkiye will never again buy foreign jets. KAAN will be devellopped and produced in different variants, configurations and models (just like F-16, F-15, F-18 etc). Since we have our own jets there is no restriction or limits to produce as much as we want (as long as the economic situation allows it).

The main reason/obstacle in past or present for Turkiye to possess a very large airforce is simply due to the fact that even if we wished to buy 1000 F16's from US they would obviously refuse because there is a regional balance they have to consider if the opposite was true we would maybe have a fleet of 1000 F-16's by now instead of 220 or so.

All of these issues will become irrelevant after our domestic KAAN is finished. We can even field the largest airforce in the world if there is a need. (As long as we have the strong economy to support it)

 

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You have ignored a lot of people's posts on this thread. First of all @LeGenD and then @LegionnairE @Hold the door then @White and Green with M/S and now @sami_1

Instead of posting the same photos again and again,you should read their posts carefully and understand what they are telling you.

Stom dreaming with your F-16Vs and learn the reality


I am not posting photos
I am giving a lesson to all of you about the Turkish Air Force and great network centric warfare capability


Read again and take a lesson from me

12 F-16V can not change anything
F-16V has AESA Radar ... but AESA Radar is nothing to do with dog fight


in BVR combat Turkish Air Force has great network centric warfare capability

Greece has network centric warfare capability with only 30 F-16 Block52+ adv and 12 F-16V now

Turkiye has 163 CCIP modernized F-16s with link-16 data link for network centric warfare capability

Network centric warfare capability
Greece : 42 F-16s
Turkiye : 163 F-16s

Turkish F-16 pilot can see the position of enemy elements even if they are out of radar range and commence an attack or evasive maneuver according to this information

Thanks to 4 Boeing E-7T AEWCs with 600 km MESA Radar

E-7T AEWC can detect Greek F-16V from 350+ km away and can guide 120km AIM-120C7 air to air missiles in BVR combat



163 Turkish F-16s have same capability for BVR combat against 12 Greek F-16Vs and 30 F-16Block50+ adv

Thanks to 4 Boeing E-7T AEWCs with 600 km MESA Radar and Link-16 TDL