Turkish Air Defence Programs

[kartal1]

@cabatli_53 Master! What happened to the Sapan RAM equivalent project? Is there any development you can inform us about? It seems that the project is advancing quietly.

 

[cabatli_53]

@cabatli_53 Master! What happened to the Sapan RAM equivalent project? Is there any development you can inform us about? It seems that the project is advancing quietly.

Bro, I don’t have any new info about Sapan. I am just predicting that Sapan will be a short range self defence naval missile similar to RAM. Hope to see some developments about it as well.

 

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So in a very short time (a couple of months)

We have introduced indigenous AD missiles to our inventory:
- VSHORAD manpads (sungur) (PORSAV project)
- SHORAD AD (Hisar-A) (IRIS-T SLS equivalent)
- Medium AD (Hisar - O) (IRIS-T SLM equivalent)

- long range (Hisar - U under development)


Missiles in development Sea based AD:
- G40 (ESSM equivalent)

AA missiles in development:
- Bozdogan (falcon colubarius) shortrange (AiM-9 equivalent)
- Gokdogan (falcon perigrine) medium range (AIM-120C equivalent)
- Akdogan (falcon rusticolus) (long range?) (I'm guessing here AIM-120D equivalent?)


And than we will have some NASAM's like configurations with AA missiles in AD role


future developments we need:
- AIM-260, Meteor like extended long range missiles with Ramjet

Why wouldn't they just improve on Gokdogan with a dual-pulse rocket motor and Block II it. Instead of giving it a new name.. I believe Akdogan is actually long-range ramjet, they've been working on ramjets for atleast a decade with universities, I have no doubt that the engine is there and now we have the missile - mix it up. Make a Ramjet missile.

 

[MMM-E]

 

[Cengaver]

tek ilgimi çeken soğuk fırlatma teknolojisi idi.Başarılmış tebrikler
soğuk fırlatma teknolojisi

 

[Nart]

cold launch technology which used the same method in Russian S-300 and S-400 air defense systems

tek ilgimi çeken soğuk fırlatma teknolojisi idi.Başarılmış tebrikler
soğuk fırlatma teknolojisi

SUNGUR doesn't use cold launch. It has a small booster just like stinger (you can even see it in this picture).

As you can read here:
https://www.defenceturkey.com/en/co...defense-system-is-ready-to-enter-service-4105

Dubbed as PORSAV, the National ManPADS is a fully autonomous ‘fire and forget’ missile equipped with a two-stage (booster motor and sustainer motor) solid propellant rocket motor and features Aselsan’s cooled Imaging Infrared (IIR) type seeker head (believed to operate in the three to five-micron waveband).

 

[ÇölKaplanı]

cold launch technology which used the same method in Russian S-300 and S-400 air defense systems

It's not cold launch. MANPADS missiles usually has little boosters to protect the soldiers from getting burn by the rocket engines

Take a close look at 00:32 and 1:36

 

[dBSPL]

Bu cold launch ile ilgili kuyuya ilk taşı kim attı biraz bakayım dedim. Bulduğum, haberin kaynağı yeni şafak internet sitesi - https://www.yenisafak.com/video-gal...ngur-testleri-gecti-envantere-giriyor-2206249 ; Haberde imza yok ama bu gazetenin savunma sanayi içeriklerini oluşturan arkadaş twitter'da pek popüler.

 

[MMM-E]

what about defenseworldnet ?


According to Turkish media, the Sungur utilizes Titanium warhead and a long-range radar. It uses Soviet cold-launch technology

https://www.defenseworld.net/news/2...fense_System_Ready_for_Induction#.Xv2oiPkzbIW

 

[Agha Sher]

from defenseworldnet


According to Turkish media, the Sungur utilizes Titanium warhead and a long-range radar. It uses Soviet cold-launch technology

https://www.defenseworld.net/news/2...fense_System_Ready_for_Induction#.Xv2oiPkzbIW

They are clearly wrong about that, my friend.

 

[ÇölKaplanı]

what about defenseworldnet ?


According to Turkish media, the Sungur utilizes Titanium warhead and a long-range radar. It uses Soviet cold-launch technology

https://www.defenseworld.net/news/2...fense_System_Ready_for_Induction#.Xv2oiPkzbIW

 

[MMM-E]

They are clearly wrong about that, my friend.

yes

 

[RadarGudumluMuhimmat]

Guuuuuys this is not a cold launch, a mini launch engine is used at the first level to prevent the user from being damaged, the same is in the stinger and omtas we have produced for years.

 

[Tsenal]

what about defenseworldnet ?


According to Turkish media, the Sungur utilizes Titanium warhead and a long-range radar. It uses Soviet cold-launch technology

https://www.defenseworld.net/news/2...fense_System_Ready_for_Induction#.Xv2oiPkzbIW

I thought you were joking but they actually wrote that.

 

[Saithan]

Does it matter that it's not a cold launch as long as the result is the same. You swap the used tube out with a new one, and you're ready to go again.

If this is the first version, I hope the next versions can be more compact.