Turkish Air Defence Programs

[gkurt-1979]

"S-400 Deal is at the final, last stage with Russia but There are process to be taken between two countries" said Defence minister Fikri Işık

Savunma Bakanı Fikri Işık, "Rusya ile S-400 savunma sistemi ile ilgili çalışmalar nihai noktaya geldi ancak halen her iki ülke tarafından yürütülmesi gereken süreçler var" dedi..

 

[Beno]

What's the point of buying the S-400 system when Turkey is developing indigenous systems?

Won't all the time, effort and resources spent on the hisar air defence systems be wasted?

 

[Yatağanlı]

What's the point of buying the S-400 system when Turkey is developing indigenous systems?

Won't all the time, effort and resources spent on the hisar air defence systems be wasted?

The Long range Hisar will not be ready in time. The short and middle range versions will be. This procurement is a stop gap for the coming 10 years.

 

[Attila the Hun]

The Long range Hisar will not be ready in time. The short and middle range versions will be. This procurement is a stop gap for the coming 10 years.

Nonsense. This is just to keep Russia happy (if it ever does happen).

It's a waste of time and money, something which we don't have a lot of.

 

[damm1t]

What's the point of buying the S-400 system when Turkey is developing indigenous systems?

Won't all the time, effort and resources spent on the hisar air defence systems be wasted?

We are in urgent need of an air defence system, we can't keep rely on NATO always.

 

[HannibalBarca]

We are in urgent need of an air defence system, we can't keep rely on NATO always.

the S-400 will not be delivered bf those 5-8 incoming years... ( if everything goes along)
And you have India on the waiting list too...
China signed around 2012 and still don't have it... (more pessimistic ones is for 2018, but could be even more around 2019-2020)

 

[xenon54 out]

the S-400 will not be delivered bf those 5-8 incoming years... ( if everything goes along)
And you have India on the waiting list too...
China signed around 2012 and still don't have it... (more pessimistic ones is for 2018, but could be even more around 2019-2020)

The thing is development of long range air defense might take 2 decades since they just started, at that time the requirements will probably change too which might further delay the project alongside unknown political situation, a off the shelf system is the only way for a short term solution.

 

[WarFariX]

Ankara in ‘final stage’ of buying Russian S-400 anti-missile system

Turkey’s talks with Russia to purchase the advanced S-400 surface-to-air missile system have reached the final stage, the country’s defense minister said. He added that other NATO nations have not offered Turkey a viable alternative to the Russian system.
“It is clear that Turkey needs a missile defense system but NATO member countries have not presented an offer which is financially effective," Fikri Isik told a news conference on Friday.

“Work on the S-400 has reached a final point,” he added. “But the final stage does not mean 'let's sign a deal tomorrow morning.'”

The negotiations between Turkey and Russia on a long-range air defense system deal were revealed in November last year. Back in 2015, Ankara walked out of a $3.4 billion contract for a similar Chinese system, FD-2000, the export version of HQ-9. The Chinese bid had won a 2013 tender, but Turkey canceled the agreement, citing Beijing’s unwillingness to transfer technology along with the equipment.

Turkey’s choice of Chinese weapons sparked concern among other NATO members, primarily because the system was incompatible with the equipment used by the bloc. Isik confirmed on Friday that Turkey was not planning to integrate the Russian S-400 system into NATO air defenses.

Turkey is seeking a comprehensive national air defense system, but lacks the technical expertise to produce the constituent parts domestically. In the past it has relied on other NATO allies such as the US and Germany to deploy their long-range anti-aircraft missiles in times of crisis.

In 2015, Ankara was angered by the US decision to withdraw Patriot missiles from Turkey’s border with Syria – a move that some speculated was meant to express Washington’s irritation with Turkish attacks on America’s Kurdish allies in Iraq and Syria.

The S-400 is one of Russia’s most advanced weapon systems. It can shoot down aircraft at a range of 400km and ballistic missiles at a range of 60km, as well as engaging 36 targets simultaneously. A battery is currently deployed in Syria, defending the Russian airbase near Latakia.

https://www.rt.com/news/385583-turkey-russia-s-400/

 

[Oublious]

the S-400 will not be delivered bf those 5-8 incoming years... ( if everything goes along)
And you have India on the waiting list too...
China signed around 2012 and still don't have it... (more pessimistic ones is for 2018, but could be even more around 2019-2020)

today signed within 2 years operational. the chinese have ther system.

 

[mehmet75]

Rumors that : First week of the may, putin and tayyip will sign some papers in soçi meeting. One of them will be s400...

 

[Kutsanan]

After US strike can we trust Russian system?

 

[u.MP]

After US strike can we trust Russian system?

Tomahawks fly at low altitude, S-400 is not designed for that.

 

[Bubblegum Crisis]

After US strike can we trust Russian system?

Of course, no !

Tomahawks fly at low altitude, S-400 is not designed for that.

So easy !!! I know it's a joke. Ask MIM-104 Patriot or SAMP/T-MAMBA (Them they can)...^^


https://theaviationist.com/2017/04/...t-airbase-in-syria-heres-what-we-know-so-far/

https://sputniknews.com/military/201704071052404137-russia-air-defense-syria/


Sources : ria.ru, raspletin.com






Also F-22 raptor and B-2 Spirit.



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[Kutsanan]

Of course, no !



So easy !!! I know it's a joke. Ask MIM-104 Patriot or SAMP/T-MAMBA...^^


https://theaviationist.com/2017/04/...t-airbase-in-syria-heres-what-we-know-so-far/

https://sputniknews.com/military/201704071052404137-russia-air-defense-syria/


Sources : ria.ru, raspletin.com






Also F-22 raptor and B-2 Spirit.



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But Syria said our radars didnt see missiles. İf you want to send a strong message to Us and whole world just shut down some tomawahks with your latest AA missile.

Actually i am not sure about s-xxx missiles when we saw Israel shut down one of them with his own AA missles and they didnt shut any tomahawks.

 

[Yellow-place]

But Syria said our radars didnt see missiles. İf you want to send a strong message to Us and whole world just shut down some tomawahks with your latest AA missile.

Actually i am not sure about s-xxx missiles when we saw Israel shut down one of them with his own AA missles and they didnt shut any tomahawks.

Russia said our support to Syrian government is not unlimited. That means, we know the strike and we won't do anything. Actually they are briefed by US about the strike, so s400 not "couldn't " but "didn't " hit them. Maybe it could or not, from this act, we can't learn this.