Turkey targets Assad militias with bombardments and missile rain

[Battlion25]

I already addressed and debunked this, when you posted it with your other account (Titanium110) I believe.

First of all, I told you that Keyhan London is a monarchist, US-, UK-, zionist-backed newspaper pertaining to the pro-monarchist expatriate Iranian opposition, which will not hesitate to twist statements of Iranian officials to feed its propaganda.

Secondly, I also told you that 200.000 troops "under the auspices of the IRGC" includes the local Syrian NDF (National Defence Forces), a popular paramilitary organization set up with the help of Iran and following the example of the Iranian Basij, as well as several divisions of the SAA known for being closely advised by Iran. Add the 25.000 actual Iranian and allied forces, and you reach 200.000 figure.



You got your drivel exposed, trashed, and then exposed, trashed again. Just like your "rebel" buddies in Syria, hahaga. I'll be when you try again.



They were nothing impressive. As I said, 2000 Iranian advisers more than a thousand kilometers from home were enough to crush them hard. Imagine when Amir ol-Momein seyyed Khamenei issues a fatwa and 10 million Mojaheds are mobilized.

Well you can't counter from the horses own mouth besides Solemani himself has admitted to defeat in Moscow infront of Putin.. Saying we have lost and he needs emergency saving..

From a conventional point of view there was nothing on earth Iran could have done.. These Rebels were very strong and stubborn hence it was fruitless. Hence the defeat and selling everything, accepting to become proxy for Russia instead and giving the energy rights up as price...

No nation will go to another nation and accept these terms unless it is the absolute last resort and lifeline

 

[SalarHaqq]

Well you can't counter from the horses own mouth besides Solemani himself has admitted to defeat in Moscow infront of Putin.. Saying we have lost and he needs emergency saving..

No, he never say "we lost".

From a conventional point of view there was nothing on earth Iran could have done..

Iran did a lot: preventing the terrorists from overthrowing the Syrian government for starters. With only 2000 advisers and 20.000 allied paramilitaries.

Then there was the issue of taking back more territory from the insurgents. Had Russia refused to step in, those 2000 Iranian advisers would have turned into one to two million Basijis and the result would have been the same, albeit at much higher cost to Iran. Which is why Russian cooperation was preferred in the first place.

These Rebels were very strong and stubborn hence it was fruitless.

Iran is at least as stubborn. Radical, passionate, faithful, stubborn till kingdom come. Martyr five million, Iran will gladly send you ten million more.

Hence the defeat and selling everything, accepting to become proxy for Russia instead and giving the energy rights up as price...

Hence the victory and being on par with Russia. Hence why Moscow cannot expel Iranian forces from Syria. Hence why when Russians once tried to limit Hezbollah presence around Al-Qusayr, they were warned and never tried again. Hence why Iran has been setting up proxies all along the demarcation line to Occupied Golan, driving zionists mad. Hence why Iran-Syrian economic ties are solid as ever, be it in real estate (with entire neighborhoods in Damascus being bought up by Iranian investors), in the mining of phosphate in Syria, in the telecommunication and automobile sectors.

 

[Battlion25]

No, he never say "we lost".



Iran did a lot: preventing the terrorists from overthrowing the Syrian government for starters. With only 2000 advisers and 20.000 allied paramilitaries.

Then there was the issue of taking back more territory from the insurgents. Had Russia refused to step in, those 2000 Iranian advisers would have turned into one to two million Basijis and the result would have been the same, albeit at much higher cost to Iran. Which is why Russian cooperation was preferred in the first place.



Iran is at least as stubborn. Radical, passionate, faithful, stubborn till kingdom come. Martyr five million, Iran will gladly send you ten million more.



Hence the victory and being on par with Russia. Hence why Moscow cannot expel Iranian forces from Syria. Hence why when Russians once tried to limit Hezbollah presence around Al-Qusayr, they were warned and never tried again. Hence why Iran has been setting up proxies all along the demarcation line to Occupied Golan, driving zionists mad. Hence why Iran-Syrian economic ties are solid as ever, be it in the real estate sector (with entire neighborhoods in Damascus being bought up by Iranian investors), in the mining of phosphate in Syria, in the telecommunication and automobile sectors.

Well ofcourse you will say this.. But ground realities are realities lets agree to this disagree..

 

[TNT]

What "many years"? The riots started in 2011,the war really started in 2012 and Russia's intervention started in 2015.


That doesn't look like 90%

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If rebels held "almost 90% of Syria",then the government would have been doomed and left with only Damascus and the coast cities in Latakia and Tartus. The situation was very bad for the SAA,but they still controlled most of the biggest cities and around half of Aleppo.


If Iran had sent normal army forces,entire divisions of its army and Pasdaran,fully equipped,things could have been different. Sending militias and volunteers as well as small forces of advisors and officers,all of them with few heavy weapons and cover,that's not very effective. Of course,they could not be compared with the Russians who came with heavy armor,aircraft,air defences and fully equipped professional soldiers.

If fully armed russians came, why didnt fully armed iranian came? SAA was about to be routed, even a moron knows this, u r just not acceping it. Why iranians begged russia then? Iran tried everything short of sending their whole military, they knew they cant take syria without help of a major power like russia. All that hot air and they have to ask russian help.

 

[Foinikas]

If fully armed russians came, why didnt fully armed iranian came? SAA was about to be routed, even a moron knows this, u r just not acceping it. Why iranians begged russia then? Iran tried everything short of sending their whole military, they knew they cant take syria without help of a major power like russia. All that hot air and they have to ask russian help.

Check mine and SalarHaqq's discussion above.

 

[Titanium100]

If fully armed russians came, why didnt fully armed iranian came? SAA was about to be routed, even a moron knows this, u r just not acceping it. Why iranians begged russia then? Iran tried everything short of sending their whole military, they knew they cant take syria without help of a major power like russia. All that hot air and they have to ask russian help.

Even with that the country entered 3 defacto states stalemate.. Non of the powers there are willing to fight ww3 over irrelevant syria..

 

[SalarHaqq]

If fully armed russians came, why didnt fully armed iranian came? SAA was about to be routed, even a moron knows this, u r just not acceping it. Why iranians begged russia then? Iran tried everything short of sending their whole military, they knew they cant take syria without help of a major power like russia. All that hot air and they have to ask russian help.

The fully armed Russians could not have turned the tide if not in cooperation with Iranian-led infantry on the ground. It's the symbiotic combination of these two forces which led to victory. You can ask the Americans or zionists (if for once they choose to be honest, that is): air power alone, no matter how massive or sophisticated, won't win any wars.

 

[Battlion25]

Even with that the country entered 3 defacto states stalemate.. Non of the powers there are willing to fight ww3 over irrelevant syria..

Something similar to the Korean but only this time it is 3 parts instead of 2. Sort of like a classical stalemate from a conventional sense. Some may hold more areas then others but still a stalemate

 

[Titanium100]

Something similar to the Korean but only this time it is 3 parts instead of 2. Sort of like a classical stalemate from a conventional sense. Some may hold more areas then others but still a stalemate

More similar to Something like the 3 Kingdom wars in ancient china competition for the mandate of heaven

 

[Aramagedon]

Cyrus the great gonna capture Lydians again.

 

[Messerschmitt]

They praise the biggest terrorist who killed more than one million of his people and calling militants who fights him terrorists instead, HYPOCRISY

IS was and still is also enganged in fighting Assad, does that make them less of a terrorist group? Most of Idlib is controlled by HTS, basically a rebrand of the Syrian AQ branch known for their atrocities against minorities. I am not trying to whitewash Assad, a tyrant that would rather burn his own country and kill everyone that opposes him than to step down, but I don’t think calling hardcore religious extremists that see killing non-Sunnis as permissible and some (e.g. HTS/AQ) even as a religious duty „terrorists“ is inappropriate or hypocritical.

 

[jamahir]

I am not trying to whitewash Assad, a tyrant that would rather burn his own country and kill everyone that opposes him than to step down

1. Step down just because AQ, MB and their bosses Obomba, Bliar and their successors want Assad to ? Let's say I want Boris Johnson to step down and the Communist Party of Great Britain to form governance. Let's say I want the Democrats and the Republicans in America to step down and for the Occupy Wall Street people and the CPUSA to form governance.

2. How is Assad a tyrant ?