Turkey shoots down "Russian Jet" near border

[surya kiran]

Turkey raised it's F-16 patrol aircrafts in Syrian border to 18 from 16.... Keep on dreaming Putin fanboy.

18 F-16 birden uçtu - Milliyet.com.tr

To readers of this thread. Most of the Indian posters are doing nothing but lying in this thread.

If somebody gives you an opinion, the person becomes a fanboy. No wonder you are in this mess, with this kind of logic.

Your country buddy. If the S400 goes live in Syria and Russian planes are in the air, no number of air combat patrols is going to help you. Even if you increase them to 50. If that S400 goes up, you will need to deal with an opponent , who is not looking to attack the ground rebels in Syria, but also TuAF in the air. That is a whole different level of aggression. The only way you will be able to do CAP without threats is to take out the S400. And that is going to take this to an all new level.

Best way out, is to talk to the Russians and ensure this never happens again. Those S400s are beasts.

Now, coming to the economic aspects. You chaps depend on Russia for more than 50% f your gas requirements. What were you guys thinking? Do you realise what the economic implications of this are?

 

[pher]

you imply nato christian whites will fight die for turks? what weed are you smoking?

 

[NUCLEAR_WINTER]

If somebody gives you an opinion, the person becomes a fanboy. No wonder you are in this mess, with this kind of logic.

Your country buddy. If the S400 goes live in Syria and Russian planes are in the air, no number of air combat patrols is going to help you. Even if you increase them to 50. If that S400 goes up, you will need to deal with an opponent , who is not looking to attack the ground rebels in Syria, but also TuAF in the air. That is a whole different level of aggression. The only way you will be able to do CAP without threats is to take out the S400. And that is going to take this to an all new level.

Best way out, is to talk to the Russians and ensure this never happens again. Those S400s are beasts.

You don't seem to understand that Turks have green light from NATO to escalate this.

 

[ultron]

Russians burn Turkey flag

 

[scherz]

you imply nato christian whites will fight die for turks? what weed are you smoking?

White people are doing lots of stupid stuff recently. Wont surprise me...

 

[BordoEnes]

Well putin called you guys a rabid dog just a couple of hours ago .....

And asked US to close the dog's mouth .

He also said that revenge is what turkey will receive.

Donno man . Hope you're right

People are to much chest beating and are screaming empty threats. The fundemental reality of the situation is that Turkey still is a NATO member and that any retaliation involving military is completely out of the picture for Russia. Russia will most likely be looking for economical retalitation but even that is iffy, especcialy the energy sector. Russia already invested 3 Billion USD in Turkey to build a nuclear reactor and most of its trade involves around natural gas. If they cut the natural gas, it would cripple Turkey... in the short term. On the long term if would damage Russia's international image by Hurting innocent Turkish civilians and would ultimately lead Turkey to find alternatives, which there plentyfull of in the region such as Iran, Turkmenistan and Azerbadijan(just gonna cost some extra bucks ofcourse).

My guess it that they will arm the PKK terrorists and the Kurdish militants in Syria, but that really would hardly be a retaliation.

 

[F117]

Calling them Turkmen is hiding the truth, these are actually Turkish citizens, ex army, members of fascists organizations like the Grey Wolves, or Salafists. Real Turkmen have nothing to do with Turkey's proxy war against Russia.

 

[xenon54 out]

This act has permanently closed Turkey's planned SCO membership.

Good, a SCO membership would reverse any progress regarding democracy in Turkey anyway.

 

[Siavash]

Ich dachte es ist nicht wahr aber, Herr Sigmar hat wirklich gesagt, dass:
Nach Flugzeugabschuss: Für Gabriel ist Türkei ein "unkalkulierbares" Risiko - DIE WELT

The incalculable risk in the region is Ankara not Moscow!

This is how NATO would be divided. At the end, people in the European Union would see Russia as someone fighting ISIS and Turkey as a country defending it and can not back Turkey in this. Specially that the memories of Ottoman atrocities is still alive and the Muslim nature of Turkey departs them further. This makes the division that sets back US policies in the region. Turkey didn't do herself any favor!

 

[BordoEnes]

Russia is going to kill all your Turkmen and the S-400 will make sure the job gets done without problems.

Let's see if Turkey can follow through again to shoot down Russian jets while they give a quick transfer to hell for your Turkmen.



Pakistan don't even have a proper military without China. You got nukes because of China.

You think some S-400 battaries are going to make a difference? In case you didnt notice the geographical location of Turkey and Syria, they are our neighbours. What good is a couple fighters jets, anti-air defence systems and some ground troops gonna do against the might of the entire Turkish army. Use your fvking brain for once.

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

Bombing a Turkmen village where more then 600 died(women and children included) is following Geneva conventions?
Are you ok,ever heard of double standards?
What would you if you were one of them?

Assad's forces have not been angels either but 2 wrongs dont make a right......if i were one of them i wouldnt machine gun a pilot who ejected and cant even defend himself at all, that is the most cowardly act ever and goes to show that all rebel groups (not just ISIS) play dirty as well (PKK and YPG too, they are opportunists)

 

[PatriotLover]

Good, a SCO membership would reverse any progress regarding democracy in Turkey anyway.

SCO is not very significant in the world right now. And with India in it, it is another disfunctional organisation with no future.

 

[F117]

Ich dachte es ist nicht wahr aber, Herr Sigmar hat wirklich gesagt, dass:
Nach Flugzeugabschuss: Für Gabriel ist Türkei ein "unkalkulierbares" Risiko - DIE WELT

The incalculable risk in the region is Ankara not Moscow!

This is how NATO would be divided. At the end, people in the European Union would see Russia as someone fighting ISIS and Turkey as a country defending it and can not back Turkey in this. Specially that the memories of Ottoman atrocities is still alive and the Muslim nature of Turkey departs them further. This makes the division that sets back US policies in the region. Turkey didn't do herself any favor!

Also, in the coming years right wing parties will come to power in Europe, due to various reasons, and most of them are pro Russia. Examples are PVV, UKIP, Front National, etc. This is bad news for Erdogan.

 

[Juicer]

Turkey shot down a Russian fighter and first thing they said was " We are in NATO " ...

this is not act of power , this is act of cowardice ...

 

[Hypersonicmissiles]

You think some S-400 battaries are going to make a difference? In case you didnt notice the geographical location of Turkey and Syria, they are our neighbours. What good is a couple fighters jets, anti-air defence systems and some group troops gonna do against the might of the entire Turkish army. Use your fvking brain for once.

LOL

That's not an army, those are jihadis pretending to be an army.

S-400 WILL take out your ENTIRE air force.