Turkey shoots down "Russian Jet" near border

[FlyCheatter]

"Alfa" seems like to be sent to Syria:
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[Hyperion]

Please do elaborate.......

Russia has alot to loose if they escalate it further.

 

[-SINAN-]

This would escalate things massively.No NATO member would defend crazy jihadists shooting to kill parachuting Russians.I don't like the Russians either but i wouldn't touch this situation with a 100 metres long pole.What the world sees is Russian airmen gunned down by crazies shouting "Allah Akbar".....good luck selling that in Washington,Paris,London.

Shooting "Allahu Akbar" doesn't makes you a crazy Jihadist.

If you say so, cross Turks' name as Jihadists too....(sarcasm)

We are saying "Allahu Akbar" for centuries, we are not going to change our traditions and customs because some terrorists say it also.

This is the map that Turkey released:

The distance shown inside Turkey's airspace is merely 3 kilometers.

Even if the Russian plane was flying with subsonic speed, it couldn't have been inside Turkey's airspace for more than 30 seconds at most.

Now, how could have Turks warned Russian plane 10 times in 5 minutes while being Inside Turkish airspace?

Reminds me of the 90s, when Turkey used to violate Iran's airspace dozens of times while claiming to bomb PKK, and it didn't stop until we sent some Tomcats and Mig-29s to Tabriz airbase. Using Turkey's logic. it was perfectly justified to shoot down Turkey's jets who violated our airspace not once, but various times.

Militaristic evaluation about the downed Russian jet by Turkish air force.

Why didn't you say these things for Syria when they shot our aircraft for trespassing their airspace for 5 seconds ? ROE have been changed in Syrian border since then.

Close down the air space of Syria so that Turkey cant aid its ISIS allies.

Do you want to see how the S300/400 works?

Last time a Turkish airplane had been in Syria was in 2012. So, close all you want. Infact, we would happy to see when you really begin striking ISIS instead of Turkmen villages.

 

[Rukarl]

Russians are really doing great job killing those ISIS shitheads, while whole Europe is benefiting but won't recognize

Also once again it proves Turks really are supporting ISIS

they kill Kurds, who are really fighting ISIS on the ground
they attack Russians, who are really bombing ISIS terrorists

RuAF was busy bombing ISIS oil supplies and Turkey didn't like it.

 

[BordoEnes]

Being hotheaded is a mistake.

Sometimes it comes in handy though...

Look obviously the Russians had it coming. Lets not play dumb here, they approached Turkish airspace at an alarming rate and according to the Turkish airforce they even entered it. No mather how you look at it, Russia was the one who was overly aggresive here. The nearest ISIS front is 200km away east, so they are either bombing Turkmen's which Turkey wont stand or they were trying to show off power projection again, which we also wont stand.

 

[raazh]

It is a very alarming development. Don't know who is right and who is wrong but Russia is in no position to attack any Turkish Military facility as it will not be possible to sustain such operations logistically. Turkey will have the upper hand with or without Nato support.
And if for some reason Iran offers Russia its air space for any action against Turkey then expect open war in the middle east.

 

[SiCiSi]

Last time a Turkish airplane had been in Syria was in 2012. So, close all you want. Infact, we would happy to see when you really begin striking ISIS instead of Turkmen villages.

We will strike anyone we want. FSA, ISIS, Turkmen etc are all the same for us.

Will your planes enter Syria to save your allies? especially now?

no.

 

[fox 2]

@Lure
Stop talking stupid boy. What your purpose ? Are you false flagger ?
Our engage rules are changed 1 months ago and Russians nows this very well. They are apologized two times.
You are writing stupid messages always.

 

[madmusti]

According to the official report, Russian jet was warned "many times" before being shot down. However the radar reports that was also disclosed shows that the total amount of mileage that the Russian jet covered in Turkish airspace is about 2 km. I've calculated and it roughly takes 6 seconds for a modern jet to cover such distance. How can we warn a jet "multiple times" in 6 seconds?

Turkish members here should learn some basic physics and advanced pariotism.

Burası Dış Politika, senin yaptığın ise İç Politika, yani senin gibi birinin Vatanperverlikten bahse edip Hainlik yapmak gibi birşey.....

 

[cabatli_53]

Since 70 years, No NATO aircraft touched a single Soviet forces but It is the Turkey shot down Russian fighter as a response to their actions in our border !

Happy Christmass Russia..

24.11.2015

24.11.2015

 

[alaungphaya]

You forgot that Turkey is in a CRUSADER ALLIANCE (NATO).

Not for long if they escalate this.

 

[Hyperion]

Amen to that brother. It's time we all draw our own red lines. Turkey of Ataturk is on deathbed, once again it's mindless mullah's in power, hellbent on delivering the last nail in Turkey's secular credentials.

The ones who shot down the Russian Jet are the ones who hates Turkey. The ones who supports this reckless act are the ones that should be accused of treason.

One day people of Turkey will understand the consequences of those mistakes, but it will be too late for us. Pity among us who does not support this madness yet still labeled as terror supporters or fundementalists. Just because we are citizens of the same country with bunch of lunatics does not mean we are all lunatics.

All I can say to foreigners in here is, altough there is a higher probability (you can figure that out from the election results) that a Turk you meet might be supporting those lunatics, there is a huge minority who feel ashamed by those acts.

Turkish state is heading towards being a rogue state with speed of light. The great heritage that Mustafa Kemal has left us is ruined.

The person who downed this jet today is not my brother anymore. The one in the downed jet is my brother from now on.

 

[-SINAN-]

We will strike anyone we want. FSA, ISIS, Turkmen etc are all the same for us.

Will your planes enter Syria to save your allies? especially now?

no.

Nope, we will continue to shot down Russian aircraft....that's more fun.

Our support for Turkmens will continue. Hopefully they would down more Russian helicopters.

 

[Serpentine]

Why didn't you say these things for Syria when they shot our aircraft for trespassing their airspace for 5 seconds ? ROE have been changed in Syrian border since then.

Russia or Syria are not sending terrorists or TOW missiles to Turkey to topple its government as we speak, it's the opposite, so your example isn't exactly justified here.

 

[Random111]

@Yenikuyu

They provoce and write about roasted Turkeys

Ah bro, let them.

The same Russia that says they're bombing ISIS goes and bombs FSA. Atleast we admit that we're targeting both ISIS as well as others we consider terrorists.

The same Russia that does multiple border violations then ''apologizes'' for it thinks they can jerk everyone around. Well guess again.

Turkun Turkten baska dostu yoktur lafi varya hani... as a diaspora guy you truly understand what this means. Just look at all the international media attention, almost wanting to make US look bad for defending OUR borders.

The same NATO that was struggling with the Russians in Ukraine, over the Baltics is probably scared shitless because of this incident, wonder if they'll back us up? Don't think so.