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ANKARA, Turkey (AP) -- Turkey said Monday it would push NATO to consider Syria's downing of a Turkish jet as an attack on the whole military alliance.

The announcement came on the eve of a meeting by NATO's governing body to discuss the incident. Despite deep frustration among many NATO countries over the conflict in Syria, where the opposition says President Bashar Assad's crackdown on an increasingly armed popular uprising has killed 14,000 people, it's highly unlikely the military alliance will take armed action against the Arab state.

The unarmed RF-4E reconnaissance jet was shot down a mile (1.6 kilometers) inside international airspace on Friday, and two Turkish pilots are still missing, the Turkish government says.

Turkish Deputy Prime Minister Bulent Arinc also said for the first time that Syrian forces had opened ground fire on a CASA search and rescue plane shortly after the downing, but did not say if that plane was hit.

Arinc said Turkey retained its right to "retaliate" against what he called a "hostile act," but he added, "We have no intention of going at war with anyone."

Turkey will push NATO to consider the armed attack under Article 5 in a key alliance treaty, Arinc said. Article 5 states that an attack against one NATO member shall be considered an attack against all members.

The North Atlantic Council - which includes ambassadors of the 28 NATO countries - works by consensus and all members must approve any action. The meeting Tuesday comes after Turkey requested it under Article 4 of the treaty, which allows a NATO ally to request such a consultation if it feels its territorial integrity or security has been threatened.

Asked if Turkey will insist on the activation of Article 5 of NATO, Arinc said, "No doubt, Turkey has made necessary applications regarding Article 4 and Article 5."

The prospect of Western military intervention in Syria remains remote, despite all the tough talk.

Such action is unlikely to get the support of either the U.N. Security Council or the Arab League, and outside intervention without the blessing of both of those bodies is all but unthinkable. And there is little appetite among the NATO countries - of which the U.S. is the largest - for another war in the Middle East.

Arinc further strongly denied Syrian claims that the downed plane was shot by anti-aircraft fire while flying low inside Syrian airspace.

The deputy premier admitted the jet mistakenly strayed into Syrian airspace when it was flying at an altitude of 200 feet and at a speed of 300 knots, but said it left the Syrian airspace after warning from Turkish radar operators and that it received no warning from Syrian forces during its five-minute flight inside Syrian territory.

Arinc reiterated Turkey's insistence that the plane was not spying on Syria but just testing Turkey's radar capabilities.

"There is no doubt that Syrians deliberately targeted our plane in international airspace," Arinc said, accusing Syria of acting in a "cold-blooded" manner.

News from The Associated Press
 
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Ptex, you must be enjoying this.

I hope both sides exercise restraint. When the indians intruded in our air space in 2008, we easily could have shot them down. Their aircraft was painted, the target locked on. But the pilots first WARNED the intruding aircraft - which eventually fled quickly back into indian air space

was there any attempt on Syrian part to establish radio contact with the Turkish pilots? any attempt whatsoever?
 
Ptex, you must be enjoying this.

I hope both sides exercise restraint. When the indians intruded in our air space in 2008, we easily could have shot them down. Their aircraft was painted, the target locked on. But the pilots first WARNED the intruding aircraft - which eventually fled quickly back into indian air space

was there any attempt on Syrian part to establish radio contact with the Turkish pilots? any attempt whatsoever?
No good man could enjoy an event such as this, even if both of them made themselves into enemies of my nation.
I'm neither for or against Bashar and Turkey-Israeli relations are dead, for a long time now.

Aren't you supposed to be cheer-leading for your brother Turks though? I know how fond you are to claim your nation and the Turks are brothers.
 
No good man could enjoy an event such as this, even if both of them made themselves into enemies of my nation.
I'm neither for or against Bashar and Turkey-Israeli relations are dead, for a long time now.

Aren't you supposed to be cheer-leading for your brother Turks though? I know how fond you are to claim your nation and the Turks are brothers.

im no hippy, but i aint a war-mongerer brah....nor am i blinded by hatred

im no cheer-leader either, but yes we value our ties with the Turkish Republic. What's my crime in that
 
I know the Turks are not stupid enough to be baited into conflict with Syria by the wests interests.

For them you are an expendable catalyst to further their ambitions.

It's like killing two birds with one stone.
 
I know the Turks are not stupid enough to be baited into conflict with Syria by the wests interests.

For them you are an expendable catalyst to further their ambitions.

It's like killing two birds with one stone.

How did we bait Turkey and Syria into conflict? We didn't order a Syrian SAM Commander to shoot down a turkish jet. Syria outright admitted it did it, the rest is only known by Turkey or Syria and is being brought to the world by each. The accounts are mutually incompatible so one country is lying. Turkey claims to have radar evidence and is showing it to NATO.

Stop blaming the west for every single thing that happens. The Middle-East is a tinderbox, there are plenty of potential conflicts brewing without the West's helping hand.
 
My Dear Turkish Brothers,

I beg you! Please don't fall for the Western imperialists! I am not a fan of Bashar, but if you start a war with Syria you are playing right into the hands of Israel and her puppets.
 
I know the Turks are not stupid enough to be baited into conflict with Syria by the wests interests.

For them you are an expendable catalyst to further their ambitions.

It's like killing two birds with one stone.

unfortunately , some Turks are blinded with a useless and fantasy proud ... so they can't see through western planes ...
 
Turkey should act smart- and not get all worked up by the oldest trick in the book-
 
unfortunately , some Turks are blinded with a useless and fantasy proud ... so they can't see through western planes ...

Some Turks just don't give a f.ck about what west or anybody wants, we don't want a meaningless war but we don't want be stay silent againts any aggressive act either.
 
Some Turks just don't give a f.ck about what west or anybody wants, we don't want a meaningless war but we don't want be stay silent againts any aggressive act either.


well , the main problem is that Turkey fighters aggressively went in Syrian airspace ... so by the logic an international law ( or this is better that I should call it western laws ) Syria had right shot down them ...


nothing good will come from war , the only one who will enjoy this will be Zionist regime , after all they can't face two thread from west ( Egypt ) and east ( Syria ) in the same time .... not in this era ....

well , in fact they fear an strong turky as well ....

No good man could enjoy an event such as this, even if both of them made themselves into enemies of my nation.

Source: http://www.defence.pk/forums/turkey...hould-view-syria-attacking.html#ixzz1ysua8UBW
good man !? so that mean your words won't work for zionists including yourself ....

nation !? are you mean that big military base !?
 
Let the warning and interception aside, Jet was not even in the Syrian airspace when its shot down.
 
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