Turkey must apologize to Syria for violating its airspace: Iran

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by evidences from : nato radars in hatay, english radars in cyprius , russian radars in tarsus, israil radars, turkish radars say so..

and 28 states of nato and more in eu , without any question says so.. all the free media owner democratic states say so..

There is no any single country beside Turkey who said so

 

[Luftwaffe]

by evidences from : nato radars in hatay, english radars in cyprius , russian radars in tarsus, israil radars, turkish radars say so..

and 28 states of nato and more in eu , without any question says so.. all the free media owner democratic states say so..

That is not an Evidence, that is considered a statement. Show the world Concrete Evidence.

Again what sort of mission was it; An F-4 Terminator that is only used for SEAD-Recon-A2G was conduction mission in International Air Space? Was the Pilot enjoying beautiful Seas.

Just because NATO says so is not enough, show the evidence and nature of mission to clarify. There is no democratic states in EU-US all of them are imperial minded rulers.

Without evidence you cannot blame A Country that is in state of War imposed by NATO-Arabs particularly Saudis-Qatar-U.A.E and now Turkey has been dragged into it unnecessarily...

 

[Luftwaffe]

Easy compare, Time, Location when disappeared, Speed and with a little math, That is our proof. The RF-4 would most likely would just recon. the coast of syria for any weapons deployment or information. The reason is not clear but regardless they did not any right to shoot a jet which entered there airspace in a split second, Without warning.

Syria is freaking out, They are like what i call in 'Hyper' mode. They are fearing international intervention so they are on high alert and directly focus on any foreign vessel sometimes even directly reacting in the heat of the moment as you have withnissed.

No that is now how you bring out proof, just by saying and asking others to think and calculate.

Why would Turkish F-4 Recon on Syrian coastal lines, Syria is a sovereign Country; It has all the rights to deploy Weapons to safe guard Air Space and Assets. Why would you want to gain information on Syria unless you are doing NATO's dirty Job to collect Intel for any Near Future Air Strikes.

You did not understand, Syria is in State of War imposed upon it, you cannot expect it to comply with NATO code of conduct. Any possible suspicion-aggression against Syria would prompt them to take Action, Perhaps the Hierarchy has ordered to break chain of command due to current Alert and in state of war. Obviously Syira is on high alerts due to daily Threats from Turkey-NATO-US.

PS. When will you people Recon Palestinian Air Space, Palestinian Air Space protection is over due don't you think.

 

[amalakas]

Easy compare, Time, Location when disappeared, Speed and with a little math, That is our proof. The RF-4 would most likely would just recon. the coast of syria for any weapons deployment or information. The reason is not clear but regardless they did not any right to shoot a jet which entered there airspace in a split second, Without warning.

Syria is freaking out, They are like what i call in 'Hyper' mode. They are fearing international intervention so they are on high alert and directly focus on any foreign vessel sometimes even directly reacting in the heat of the moment as you have withnissed.

Am sorry to burst your bubble, but the strong rumour/fact in NATO is that the plane was inside the Surian airspace.

Nonetheless, I think Turkey was taken by surprise, because when planes violate an airspace they are given warning first, before been shot down.
Right now evidence suggests that such a warning was not given.

That is the point we should be discussing. All else is nonsense and not true.

 

[Ottoman-Turk]

raptor , same flags , same talk , duplicate account? maybe

That is not an Evidence, that is considered a statement. Show the world Concrete Evidence.

Again what sort of mission was it; An F-4 Terminator that is only used for SEAD-Recon-A2G was conduction mission in International Air Space? Was the Pilot enjoying beautiful Seas.

Just because NATO says so is not enough, show the evidence and nature of mission to clarify. There is no democratic states in EU-US all of them are imperial minded rulers.

Without evidence you cannot blame A Country that is in state of War imposed by NATO-Arabs particularly Saudis-Qatar-U.A.E and now Turkey has been dragged into it unnecessarily...

ahhh im bored of this airspace talk , lets just wait , close firat tap , drought them

 

[LegionnairE]

I really have a problem with pakistanis in canada. It was an RF4E not an F4E 2020 Terminator a whole different plane.

 

[mehmet75]

first off all , it was not a f-4 terminator.. it was a RF-4.. (big diffirence)

second ; aircarft's codes were open to all radars (idiot syrian operator definitly saw what it was (rf-4 and ident. : Turkish plane)

third ; aircraft shot 11 minutes after leaving syrian air.. (it stayed only 5 minutes)(syria did it 5 times since last 5 months)

four ; aircrafts' head towards to soutwest (not to syria)

five ; there are many radars watcing there (i named them up-text)

six ; even russia couldn't blame turkiye (after putin-erdo chat we can see it)

seven; turkey declared the flight plan second by second with altitudes, radio talks )

eight ; all off the countries which are presented this evidences officily accepted turkish evidences. and declared support..

nine; please dont look with ideologicly..

ten ; yes these countries are not democratic and has not free media but syria-iran-etc. media is free minded.. lol..

 

[Gandhi G in da house]

The OP really likes to see people fighting it seems .I think he is the same guy 'facebooks' .

 

[Cirit]

There is no any single country beside Turkey who said so

Russian radars can see that area, why great bear the Assad's protector, did not and could not show us any record against Turkey's claims.
Same situation for Assad too, just a disinformation youtube video showing a bunch of retards shouting on the beach!

 

[Luftwaffe]

I really have a problem with pakistanis in canada. It was an RF4E not an F4E 2020 Terminator a whole different plane.

I recommend you be respectful on this defense forum, keep personal problems with a specific nationalities out. On most occasions I commend and side with Turkey but not on this particular deliberate air space violation incident...I have shown patience by discussing the Topic don't drift away with Pakistanis and Canadians and XYZ..next I'll report if you go an extra mile.

Thankyou F4E were upgraded the difference is more modern upgraded Avionics-EW-ECM and multipurpose yet R-F4E were slightly upgraded in Turkey. The Role is similar mostly; All F-4s [F4E/RF-4E] have similar role. Unfortunately Turkey though an older RF-4E would do a good Job over Syrian Air Space it turned out disaster.

PS. That is what Germans say to Turks in Germany. Refrain from personal attacks.

first off all , it was not a f-4 terminator.. it was a RF-4.. (big diffirence)
second ; aircarft's codes were open to all radars (idiot syrian operator definitly saw what it was (rf-4 and ident. : Turkish plane)
third ; aircraft shot 11 minutes after leaving syrian air.. (it stayed only 5 minutes)(syria did it 5 times since last 5 months)
four ; aircrafts' head towards to soutwest (not to syria)
five ; there are many radars watcing there (i named them up-text)
six ; even russia couldn't blame turkiye (after putin-erdo chat we can see it)
seven; turkey declared the flight plan second by second with altitudes, radio talks )
eight ; all off the countries which are presented this evidences officily accepted turkish evidences. and declared support..

Coming from Horse's mouth...Show the Real Evidence. Purpose of the Mission.

 

[solkahn]

I think Egyptians, Iranian ,Saudis goverment leader should Cool the hot TEMP down otherwise this escalation ,perception false 1 is gona make Turks and syrian Arrogance more pronounced leading to war

 

[mehmet75]

rf-4's are not upgraded f-4e's..

our rf-4s were taken from germany second hand and originally rf-4s .. they are made (tail numbers) are 67-68..

they cant carry air to ground weapons ... there is no port for ag amunniations..

Purpose of the Mission.

that is non of our business.. even it was for test or/and recon flight.

the case is; shooting a military plane in international airspace without warning..

 

[LegionnairE]

@luftwaffe
Well then stop being such a jerk and do your research it was testing a newly installed radar in Turkish side as it's told by half of Turkish members. TUAF pilots fly almost everyday and this one had nothing to do with syria.

If it was a recon mission it would be with a full flight wing and it would be closer to Syrian mainland as you can't take pictures from 8 kilometers with this phucking thing.

For god's sake be mature

 

[Abu Zolfiqar]

Assad should apologize to Syrians he's killed...and some of the opposition (including those in FSA) should also apologize for waging bomb blasts even in Damascus - including the attack against the media and judiciary buildings

the helmets of the pilots were found; why the pilots havent been found yet

 

[solkahn]

The serious issue is NOT who started first or who was intruding or who Shot the plane without warning , the issue should be to resolve the dispute diplomatically BY mediating b/w 2 sides other wise there is the combined enemy of Islam sitting at the different end dying to see how 2 brotherly nation fight with each other