Turkey, Iran & Pakistan Economic Union

[ShahidT]

Just a 'What if'. similar to what russia is in process of doing with central asian states. once rail link between istanbul-tehran-lahore is completed there will be huge opportunity to consolidate into more than just an economic corridor, but a power bloc. a centre of gravity in the world stage with its own common currency, market and allegiance, a real bridge between the eastern and western worlds.

today when the global fiat monetary system is collapsing like a house of cards, we need to provide an alternative and lead the way to fundamentals based, sound economics as the backbone of a multi polar world, along with other like minded partners in northern/eastern asia.


TURKEY

Area:

total: 783,562 sq km

land: 769,632 sq km
water: 13,930 sq km

Elevation extremes:

lowest point: Mediterranean Sea 0 m
highest point: Mount Ararat 5,166 m

Land use:

arable land: 26.21%
permanent crops: 3.94%
other: 69.84% (2011)

Irrigated land:

53,400 sq km (2012)

Total renewable water resources:

211.6 cu km (2011)

Population:

81,619,392 (July 2014 est.)

Median age:

total: 29.6 years
male: 29.2 years
female: 30 years (2014 est.)

Population growth rate:

1.12% (2014 est.)

GDP (purchasing power parity):

$1.167 trillion (2013 est.)


IRAN

Area:

total: 1,648,195 sq km

land: 1,531,595 sq km
water: 116,600 sq km

Elevation extremes:

lowest point: Caspian Sea -28 m
highest point: Kuh-e Damavand 5,671 m

Land use:

arable land: 10.05%
permanent crops: 1.08%
other: 88.86% (2011)

Irrigated land:

87,000 sq km (2009)

Total renewable water resources:

137 cu km (2011)

Population:

80,840,713 (July 2014 est.)

Median age:

total: 28.3 years
male: 28 years
female: 28.6 years (2014 est.)

Population growth rate:

1.22% (2014 est.)

GDP (purchasing power parity):

$987.1 billion (2013 est.)


PAKISTAN

Area:

total: 881,912 sq km

land: 856,692 sq km
water: 25,220 sq km


Elevation extremes:

lowest point: Indian Ocean 0 m
highest point: K2 (Mt. Godwin-Austen) 8,611 m


Land use:

arable land: 26.02%
permanent crops: 1.05%
other: 72.93% (2011)

Irrigated land:

199,900 sq km (2008)

Total renewable water resources:

246.8 cu km (2011)

Population:

196,174,380 (July 2014 est.)

Median age:

total: 22.6 years
male: 22.6 years
female: 22.6 years (2014 est.)


Population growth rate:

1.49% (2014 est.)

GDP (purchasing power parity):

$574.1 billion (2013 est.)




foundations are already there. we just need to build on it. don't forget our three countries are inheritors of the 'gunpowder empires', which were blood brothers of each other and had common enemy in the british.

thoughts?

 

[atatwolf]

@this thread:

Just a 'What if'. similar to what russia is in process of doing with central asian states. once rail link between istanbul-tehran-lahore is completed there will be huge opportunity to consolidate into more than just an economic corridor,

Turkey&Azerbaijan is planning to make trans caspian railway from Turkemistan-Azerbaijan and then

This will link Turkey to Central-Asian countries and historical silk road. Doing business with Iran is very unreliable so maybe Pakistan can link up with us through Central Asian republics. It won't happen through Iran.

 

[dawn_news]

Add 85.000 sq km to Pakistan total area including Azad kashmir and Gilgit. Hell bharotis ad even Pak kashmir in their total area.

 

[ShahidT]

@this thread:



Turkey&Azerbaijan is planning to make trans caspian railway from Turkemistan-Azerbaijan and then

This will link Turkey to Central-Asian countries and historical silk road. Doing business with Iran is very unreliable so maybe Pakistan can link up with us through Central Asian republics. It won't happen through Iran.

Hi thanks for the input. am aware of these proposed projects between turkey and caspian states/CAR. as part of turkey's leverage in the wider scheme of things, sure. but it will be a geopolitical battleground with many competing interests and less certainty than the larger countries of the region. in the caspian sea neither russia or iran can be ignored.

this is why i say that the three largest countries, which have the most potential to ward off external influences, should ideally think beyond their own areas of comfort. i know its hard to deal with iran at times, and in my opinion its the precise lack of trust or economic integration which is part of this, causing misunderstanding and suspicions to take root. imagine if all three countries bit the hard pill and initiated a process for serious economic connectivity. would iran or anyone else risk the trade and benefits accruing from such a pact just for the small gains in political maneuvering they get now? from even a pure cost-benefit point of view, they would compromise for the greater good, including their own.

Add 85.000 sq km to Pakistan total area including Azad kashmir and Gilgit. Hell bharotis ad even Pak kashmir in their total area.

just copied the stats from world factbook didn't know they'd be biased like that. anyway thanks, figures are corrected.

 

[jarves]

Just a rail link bw Iran,Turkey and Pakistan wont change the gravity of region to there.Also nobody will want a common currency with Pakistan.
Also any specific reason for leaving out Saudi Arabia??

 

[T-123456]

Just a rail link bw Iran,Turkey and Pakistan wont change the gravity of region to there.Also nobody will want a common currency with Pakistan.
Also any specific reason for leaving out Saudi Arabia??

Says who?(commen currency).
Rail linlk to Saudi Arabia from either one of these countries?
How?

 

[dawn_news]

Just a rail link bw Iran,Turkey and Pakistan wont change the gravity of region to there.Also nobody will want a common currency with Pakistan.
Also any specific reason for leaving out Saudi Arabia??

Common currency is pipe dream and bad, just look at EU. Anyway trade via rail link is inevitable between Iran-Turkey and Pakistan. Likes of India can also benefit from it.

 

[jarves]

Says who?(commen currency).

Pakistani currency is very weak.Recently it has gained some strength.(1 dollar=96 rupees).Why would countries like Iran and Turkey with a strong currency would want a weak currency??.Also i though that Turks want to associate themsleves with Europe so majjority will prefer Euro if you ever think of changing your currency and adopting a common currency.

How?

What??

Common currency is pipe dream and bad, just look at EU. Anyway trade via rail link is inevitable between Iran-Turkey and Pakistan. Likes of India can also benefit from it.

Indeed.What happened to that Trans Asian railway project by the way??

 

[T-123456]

Pakistani currency is very weak.Recently it has gained some strength.(1 dollar=96 rupees).Why would countries like Iran and Turkey with a strong currency would want a weak currency??.Also i though that Turks want to associate themsleves with Europe so majjority will prefer Euro if you ever think of changing your currency and adopting a common currency.

What??


Indeed.What happened to that Trans Asian railway project by the way??

Rail link between either one of these countries with KSA,there is a Sea.
Only from Turkey to KSA through Syria/Iraq Jordan could be possible.

 

[farhan_9909]

Rail link if i am not wrong,Already exist.

No Doubt,a combined strength of these three countries will be no less than to put them into the top 5 powerful list

 

[fatman17]

in the 60's a regional pact called RCD was formed between Turkey, Iran and Pakistan. unfortunately nothing ever happened. Regional Co-operation & Development RCD needs to be revived. Turkey was more interested in the Common Market (EU), Iran became religious & well Pakistan remains mired in its own internal complications.

 

[Globenim]

Turkey bends over too deep to U.S. , U.S. puppets (like EU and NATO) and Israeli regime to consider Turkey are reliable economic partner that wont just snatch away every opportunity to please its neo colonial Western masters. Turkey still has the lingering desire to become "Western" while its treated with boots. At the same time they are already very dependant on Western military and civil technology transfer and high tech imports and can be pushed to act against the benefit of all three partner even against its will at whim of the U.S. regime.

 

[jarves]

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Turkey bends over too deep to U.S. , U.S. puppets (like EU and NATO) and Israeli regime to consider Turkey are reliable economic partner that wont just snatch away every opportunity to please its neo colonial Western masters. Turkey still has the lingering desire to become "Western" while its treated with boots. At the same time they are already very dependant on Western military and civil technology transfer and high tech imports and can be pushed to act against the benefit of all three partner even against its will at whim of the U.S. regime.

@Sinan @T-123456 @Kaan What you people have to say about this???

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Turkey bends over too deep to U.S. , U.S. puppets (like EU and NATO) and Israeli regime to consider Turkey are reliable economic partner that wont just snatch away every opportunity to please its neo colonial Western masters. Turkey still has the lingering desire to become "Western" while its treated with boots. At the same time they are already very dependant on Western military and civil technology transfer and high tech imports and can be pushed to act against the benefit of all three partner even against its will at whim of the U.S. regime.

@Sinan @T-123456 @Kaan What you people have to say about this???

 

[Hakan]

Turkey bends over too deep to U.S. , U.S. puppets (like EU and NATO) and Israeli regime to consider Turkey are reliable economic partner that wont just snatch away every opportunity to please its neo colonial Western masters.

The first sentence is wrong. Why would turkey want to buy a chinese air defence missile system if they are controlled by the west? Turkey also in the past developed the J-600T with china.

Turkey still has the lingering desire to become "Western" while its treated with boots.

Im not sure how serious they are about joining the E.U because the government said a few years ago if I remember correctly that they were looking to join the SCO but then again at the same time Turkey has very close relations with the E.U.

At the same time they are already very dependant on Western military and civil technology transfer and high tech imports and can be pushed to act against the benefit of all three partner even against its will at whim of the U.S. regime.

Turkey produces between 50% - 60% of its military hardware. As of now the statement is valid however in the future this will change. I couldn't understand the last sentence.

 

[DRaisinHerald]

Can't happen. Especially the currency thing. None of these countries are like-minded; and even the EU, a supposed collection of like-minded nations, is crumbling apart. Best thing is to just increase trade relations.