Turkey 'fully supports' Pakistan’s position on Kashmir: Turkish FM

[The Eagle]

Perfectly correct. Every nation has its hot buttons. If Pakistan wishes to repair its case, or to repudiate the Shimla Pact, it has to put together a coalition of those willing to support it, and do so based on an individual interpretation of each nation's 'hot buttons'. If that is the process going on, it is worthy of respect.

From our own point of view, we will naturally seek the hot buttons that will (a) make states incline towards our point of view; (b) make states reject the Pakistani point of view. As it happens, this highlights the fact that all states have multiple points of pressure, 'hot buttons', in other words, and will respond to them according to the skill used in invoking them.

Much appreciated Sir. Exactly this is how the diplomacy works in International Relations that every nation will use her good offices to influence her stance in respected the issue in hand.

It is all about to make the one's case stronger and representation needs substance to the prove it more correct before International Forum. The Kashmir cause for Pakistan is, to support them by moral and to bring before International Forums. Both the countries are at liberty to present their case whereby, the hosts will see it through many aspects including the presentation by both the parties. It is also evident that previously there was a halt I must say in respect of Kashmir issue by Pakistan and diplomacy was not that active however, since last clashes in the valley and with growing diplomacy we are in progress.

On other hand, indeed India will play her cards by every source available to prove her case as well as highlighting the weak points. So by all this, it is all about how the one adopt the tactics of diplomacy as well the channel where the voice could be heard. Turkey has her relations with India too though it is nowhere sighted that Turkey will influence India directly in this matter but it has been mentioned or reported I would say, but to discuss the matter before UN and other authorities about the conflict that too based upon Pakistan-Turkey relations and the Kashmir case presented by Pakistan.

 

[Loafer]

Yes, I know you have tiny, real tiny balls. Only reason you have not been buried is because there is 1,270,000,000 of you. Plain numbers even if your nuts are small as seeds.

Eh? Who import s"Gurkhas" from Nepal to do your hard fighting? Mr No friggin balls? India is probably 20% of earth - It is humonghous. Bigger than all of Europe, Russia combined. And if any Turks read this - this is exactly the comparison. India has nearly 7:1 advantage compared to Pakistan.

Even then India has to import Gurkhas from Nepal to do the hard fighting - so much for "balls". Most Indian's, 90% are certified pu*ssies of the highest order. No body or balls. Why else a country with 1.3 billion people has to import Gurkhas?

Don't shit out Lahori Logic again.

Why does Pakistan has Pathani afghans, Chechens, Uzbeks, Iranians as frontline ahead of Pakistani regulars?

So are Pakistani punjabis fussies standing behind these fair tall blue eyed cold blooded warrior races?

 

[cloud4000]

Turkish Foreign Minister Mevlut Cavusoglu, who is on a one-day visit to Pakistan, on Tuesday said Turkey has always supported Pakistan’s position on Jammu and Kashmir, and will continue to do so until the long-festering issue is resolved.

In reply to a question during a joint news conference with Pakistan’s Foreign Policy Chief Sartaj Aziz, Cavusoglu categorically declared that his country would continue to support people of Jammu and Kashmir and Pakistani position on the Kashmir dispute.

“With regards to the Jammu and Kashmir question, Turkey has been supporting, fully supporting, Jammu Kashmir and Pakistan’s position. Turkey is active member of the contact group in OIC (Organization of Islamic Cooperation). Personally I have attended all the meetings on the occasion of the OIC,” he said.

“We believe that this issue, this dispute, can be solved only through dialogue and diplomacy, not violence or using force. And I’m sure Pakistan has the same position. Therefore we will continue contributing in this issue, and hopefully everybody will refrain from using violence instead of preferring or choosing the diplomacy and dialogue to overcome this issue,” he said.

Why is this news? Turkey is just reiterating its long-standing position on Kashmir. The same goes for OIC. But it hasn't stopped either from deepening relations with India. Yet Pakistani on PDF is trumpeting this as some significant event.

If Turkey is really keen on helping Kashmirs in IOK they would do more than just utter some words in Pakistan's favor. Interesting that Turkey recalled its ambassador to Bangladesh for the hanging of a war criminal like Nizami, but 46 Kashmiri civilians get killed and their ambassador to India stays pat.

 

[Kathin_Singh]

So who is next to lecture us on human rights and democracy ......North Korea?

 

[The Eagle]

but 46 Kashmiri civilians get killed and their ambassador to India stays pat

Soon the admissions would sought as acknowledgement.

Coming to the broader picture here, Turkey stand on Kashmir this time, it is actually well defined or I would say almost defined in the few previous posts that how it could work. However, the same goes to India whereby any other nation would speak in favour of her on any issue while having relations with Pakistan as well. This is a two way road and hows the diplomacy works. Nobody claimed here that Turkey is going to cut ties with India.

This is all about acknowledging the stand on an issue and was supposed to be discussed in quality manners.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

And another interesting comparison of poulation weight. Each of the coloured region are about equal in population weighting.

There India alone is equal to:-

UK/France/Germany/Spain/Italy/Sweden/ Western Europe
USA/Canada/Mexico
Central America
Brazil/Argentina/Colombia/South America

and

Australia/New Zealand

 

[AnnoyingOrange]

In the meantime Kashmir is imploding and your 700.000 strong trigger happy army failed to control the mob when Burhan was martyred. Fresh troops had to be flown to Srinagar to assisit the killings.

Kashmir is costing you billions of dollars each year and the costs will increase in near future as the Burhan Shaheed has inspired the youth and given fresh hope.

Who cares... remember Khalistan movement ... it took 2 decades to kill that movement.. but it is officially dead now... and 700000 or whatever figure that your ISPR is feeding you is a Hoax that world knows is not true....

 

[Omega007]

If we are nobody, why Indian posters are getting frustrated to a point where their posts get deleted....if you don't care, simply don't post.

And the sarcasm totally got lost on you m8.

 

[ito]

Soon the admissions would sought as acknowledgement.

Coming to the broader picture here, Turkey stand on Kashmir this time, it is actually well defined or I would say almost defined in the few previous posts that how it could work. However, the same goes to India whereby any other nation would speak in favour of her on any issue while having relations with Pakistan as well. This is a two way road and hows the diplomacy works. Nobody claimed here that Turkey is going to cut ties with India.

This is all about acknowledging the stand on an issue and was supposed to be discussed in quality manners.

I really doubt that Turkey supports Pakistani stand on Kashmir. The language is vague and there is no mention of UN resolutions in the Turkey's minister's press conference.

Who cares... remember Khalistan movement ... it took 2 decades to kill that movement.. but it is officially dead now... and 700000 or whatever figure that your ISPR is feeding you is a Hoax that world knows is not true....

Kashmir movement will also be killed like Khalistan movement. Even now the whole unrest is happening in just four districts of South Kashmir. Nothing is North Kashmir..nothing in Jammu and nothing in Ladakh. Unlike in Punjab where the movement was much more larger in scale, the appeal for 'Azadi' in Kashmir is just confined to the four districts.

 

[Joe Shearer]

Much appreciated Sir. Exactly this is how the diplomacy works in International Relations that every nation will use her good offices to influence her stance in respected the issue in hand.

It is all about to make the one's case stronger and representation needs substance to the prove it more correct before International Forum. The Kashmir cause for Pakistan is, to support them by moral and to bring before International Forums. Both the countries are at liberty to present their case whereby, the hosts will see it through many aspects including the presentation by both the parties. It is also evident that previously there was a halt I must say in respect of Kashmir issue by Pakistan and diplomacy was not that active however, since last clashes in the valley and with growing diplomacy we are in progress.

On other hand, indeed India will play her cards by every source available to prove her case as well as highlighting the weak points. So by all this, it is all about how the one adopt the tactics of diplomacy as well the channel where the voice could be heard. Turkey has her relations with India too though it is nowhere sighted that Turkey will influence India directly in this matter but it has been mentioned or reported I would say, but to discuss the matter before UN and other authorities about the conflict that too based upon Pakistan-Turkey relations and the Kashmir case presented by Pakistan.

This is an interesting time, because there is a visible wearying of the hegemon and a visible desire on the part of hitherto smaller countries to assert their will and what they consider their Manifest Destiny.

On the one hand, Turkey is in the grips of a theocratic roll-back of the Ataturk regime. This makes other Muslim nations, especially the specially created for it country, Pakistan, and several others inclined to support Turkey (with an implicit but carefully left inarticulate demand that Pakistan herself desires reciprocal attention).

Are there other Sunni countries that will unite behind Pakistan? It was pointed out by another member of the senior group that Pakistan had blown its chances; it could have led a Coalition of the Willing, but it stepped back. Ironically this moment of moral upliftment from sordid self-interest may have cost Pakistan some support.

Does it generally have the sympathy of the Muslim world? My hunch, without a data point to show for it, was that it did; it still retains great residual sympathy. But nobody will do anything practical; there will be the ritual clearing of everybody's thoughts and away they go.

And for the rest? Other Muslim containing countries may be expected to be vaguely sympathetic. Other countries, without a home current for liberals, might serve as loyally. Liberals will react with diverse opinions, opinions formed by some of the postas them.

How does India respond to this?

Let us see, once the Corner is free, in a diyai kind of way.

 

[Omega007]

no they are not.. they are in Kashmir bcoz of Nehru..

in first try won 35% of Kashmir now called Azad Kashmir.

But you didn't take it from us!!

in Kargil we capture point 5353..

Point 5353 was never physically occupied by the Indian Army at any point, neither they made any attempts to vacate that feature during Kargil.

yeah during civil war..

The civil war was raging in the east.What's your excuse for the rather dismal performance of your armed forces in the Western sector, despite of having total parity in force levels??Are you even aware of the fact that you guys actually lost several thousand square kilometres of real-estate inthe west as well??Do you know that Kargil and its adjacent area of over 1500 square km, which used to be under Pakistani control, was lost to our forces in 1971 and was never returned??Find them out, educate yourself more and then come and give your statements!!

 

[Zee-shaun]

Well, i honestly don't think Turkey alone has that much influence on India to make it shift from it's policy. However that doesn't keeps us away from supporting Pakistan.

Turkey has growing influence in CAR and she's a NATO member. All we need is a few powerful allies to support us in international fora like you did with the NSG or in Bangladesh.

Turkey's support for Kashmir means a lot to us and yo the Kashmiris.

So who is next to lecture us on human rights and democracy ......North Korea?

Err North Korea is actually quite happy with you as you're helping them modernise their missile technology despite international embargoes.

 

[cloud4000]

Soon the admissions would sought as acknowledgement.

Coming to the broader picture here, Turkey stand on Kashmir this time, it is actually well defined or I would say almost defined in the few previous posts that how it could work. However, the same goes to India whereby any other nation would speak in favour of her on any issue while having relations with Pakistan as well. This is a two way road and hows the diplomacy works. Nobody claimed here that Turkey is going to cut ties with India.

This is all about acknowledging the stand on an issue and was supposed to be discussed in quality manners.

Recalling your ambassador and cutting off diplomatic ties are two different things. One can recall an ambassador but still have diplomatic relations.

Pakistan wants more than discussions from Turkey and OIC on Kashmir, they want concrete actions. But Turkey offered nothing on this front.

 

[Kathin_Singh]

Err North Korea is actually quite happy with you as you're helping them modernise their missile technology despite international embargoes.

We are doing that ? Any reason for that?

I mean like Pakistan has help them with nuclear bomb, they gave you No-Dong missile on which you put sticker HATF.

 

[The Eagle]

I really doubt that Turkey supports Pakistani stand on Kashmir. The language is vague and there is no mention of UN resolutions in the Turkey's minister's press conference.

Then you missed the whole thread or at-least the blue highlighted words in OP that you may read that would clear the doubt.