1. We were the invading force in 47, so technically we didn't lose anything, we only made gains. Unless of course you admit Kashmir belongs to us.
Only thing is you didn't take it from us!!
2. You just admitted yourself it's the highest, naturally showing its importance. Also, India most certainly would have taken it if you could. You couldn't, so you didn't.
Of course we could have, like we did on every other peak!!But the cost wasn't worth the gains on the ground.It was completely untouched by the Indian Army and the reason is twofold.
No 1. Terrain - The terrain favors you guys because on our side, the gradient is much steeper, at almost 90 degree straight high up.
No 2. We already occupy its surrounding features which are almost as high and we can engage 5353 from there pretty much at our will!!And besides, we even have constructed alternative lines of communications over the year, so even if you could actually manage to hold on to all of your initial gains, it still wouldn't serve your purpose any better!!
3. We were outnumbered in East Pakistan by an enemy with 9 times the size. Sorry but we are not suicidal.
Complete and utter nonsense!!You guys had over 50000 thousand regular troops in then East Pakistan when the hostilities broke out and you really think we had that many, I mean 9 times of that number of troops to spare??Please do not buy into such propaganda!!In fact, when General Niazy surrendered in Dacca, there were more than 30000 troops present in the city where as what he was actually facing was just a little bigger than a Brigade size force!!
And besides, why did your Army lost several thousand square kilometres of land estate in the western front, despite of having the parity in force levels??What excuse you gonna come up with for this one??
Also, in 1965 India had 5 times as many troops surrendering as Pakistan did,
Same old bs, where is your proof for these big claims??
despite outnumbering us 4 to 1.
More nonsense, you guys just never learn, do you??Outnumbering you people 4 to 1!!Really??Let's look at the figures then, shall we??In that year, the personnel strength of the PA stood roughly at about 300k where as it was in the range of some 700k for Indian Army, but wait!!Ten infantry divisions were deployed on the Northern front who never took part in the war for even a day, for the wound of 1962 defeat was still very much fresh!!
And besides, Pakistan Army enjoyed overwhelming technological as well as numerical superiority over their Indian counterparts in terms of armor, mech infantry and artillery as well!!While you guys had some
550 latest M 47 and M 48 Patton tanks, all we had were just 180 or so obsolescent Centurions!! (about the part in bold, I know what the Wiki has gotta say but trust you me when I say this, they are wrong in this one!!I've got scans of books written by independent analysts who had access to US Congress Archives, I can post the relevant pages if you want me to).
You guys had already raised a fully functional and well trained mechanised infantry, equipped with M113 APCs where as, at that time, we had nothing of that sort in our Army!!
You guys had more numbers of artillery pieces and better had better ones at that!!You guys were equipped with 155mm medium guns and 203 mm heavy guns where as the biggest we have were some 122mm guns which could match your guns in terms of neither the range nor the sheer destructive power of their shells!!
Even your infantry was better equipped with modern wireless communication gear, better field glasses; even their weapons were better compared to ours since your entire infantry had been equipped with M1 Garand semi automatic rifles and you had Browning M2 and .30 Cals for support where as our infantry, on a big part was still using the bolt action .303 SMLEs (due to the insufficient production rate of the SLRs) and Brens for support!!
Not to mention that our air defence arrangement was just a joke!!
It makes me quite amazed that even with odds being so much favourable to the Pakistani Army, they failed to make any significant progress!!The sheer fact that they had to end up defend their own lands and fight the war on their land for most of the war should have put them in utter shame, it would have shamed me at least.I feel also surprised at this collective cognitive dissonance you and your countrymen have apparently developed and been suffering from since long, in that you have somehow manage to buy into your own propaganda of having had to face a 5 times larger and stronger enemy with martian technology and what not, despite of all the available evidence pointing to the contrary!!The reality is far from what you believe, but then again, as the saying goes, the words 'reality' and 'believe' do not belong in the same sentence!!Just wake up now, wake up and find and see the details for yourself, open your mind and start listening to reason, m8!!
That's a much bigger humiliation than what occurred in 71.
It won't be given you be acquainted with the real facts.Find them out matey.
I won't bother replying to any of your replies, or anyone else's so don't bother.
Because you know you wouldn't have anything worthwhile to counter the potential counter arguments with!!
