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Turkey-Egypt relations must be normalized

This is what I’m talking about ..... very Sad indeed.:(

:lol: i guess its very evident who the idiot is or rather worst than idiot. I wont argue with u. Useless to argue over something that does not exist right? So yeah great democracy u have, is sisi still a general? Do u allow all generals to run for election or was that an exception?
Anyways enjoy ur democracy and keep it up.
 
Is Turkey truly democratic.. how about most other Muslim nations? You are just trying to pick up on Egypt because it is an Arab nation.. Just be careful not to provoke Arabs in real life.. that is a good advice..


Egyptian are really enjoying it to the brim.. you idiot that don't know what you are talking about,, but parroting some idiots or more than idiots like you.. you started with this idiocy talk so swallow it back..

I did not claim for Turkey or Pakistan to be truly democratic, but we are not dictatorships either, something ur not even allowed to accept. The thing with you nationalist cum dictatorship countries is that u cant get out of nationalism. Like why would i hate on Egypt " because" its arab??? Is that wat sisi tells u about everyone? They hate us "just because" we r arabs? There are many other arab countries besides Egypt, so why just hate Egypt for being arab? Doesn't even make sense. Another stupidity is trying to get personal. U think a pashtun will be scared of arab? Haha. In reality though i had good Egyptian friends in the UK and they all hated sisi and called him a dumb dictator, not my words but theirs.
So yeah keep enjoying your "democracy" to the brim, as u put it. I would rather refrain arguing with a dictatorship mouthpiece and wait for a free Egyptian to have discussions.

Respect for your ultimate goal ..... but how can you spread Muslim unity while you are mocking other Muslim nations and their choices ...?!

Consider all inputs first about the current situation in ME and Egypt , then start to analyze ..... don’t jump to conclusions so fast .

The first thing in unity in Islamic world is that we need to respect each other and accept the differences ..... something I haven’t seen in your posts brother.

As i said i have the utmost respect for Egyptian ppl, brave ppl who rose up against injustice. The other guy, i dnt know if Egyptian, keeps getting personal.
Its not that we do not accept the differences, if we can accept different sects and ethnicities then why not difference of choice of leadership by our brothers?? But my friend u also need to come out of old age stuff and accept reality. When we have dictatorship in Pakistan, we openly call it as such and openly discuss the pros and cons. Even we criticise our every govt. Criticising ur govt for its policies does not make u a traitor, infact it shows u care for ur country. That is why i would like ppl like u to openly discuss, for our knowledge and betterment of ur country. I have no problem at all if majority of Egyptian ppl choose a dictator or a muslim brotherhood guy. But be open to discussion and dont be like iranians.
 
I did not claim for Turkey or Pakistan to be truly democratic, but we are not dictatorships either, something ur not even allowed to accept. The thing with you nationalist cum dictatorship countries is that u cant get out of nationalism. Like why would i hate on Egypt " because" its arab??? Is that wat sisi tells u about everyone? They hate us "just because" we r arabs? There are many other arab countries besides Egypt, so why just hate Egypt for being arab? Doesn't even make sense. Another stupidity is trying to get personal. U think a pashtun will be scared of arab? Haha. In reality though i had good Egyptian friends in the UK and they all hated sisi and called him a dumb dictator, not my words but theirs.
So yeah keep enjoying your "democracy" to the brim, as u put it. I would rather refrain arguing with a dictatorship mouthpiece and wait for a free Egyptian to have discussions.
Ask anyone in the world which country is run by a dictatorship..and they will most likely mention Turkey.. not Egypt..
Actually you hate most Arabs.. and they know it.. You are just jealous.. that is what your thoughts say about you..try to sugar coat it as you like.. it is too obvious..
 
Ask anyone in the world which country is run by a dictatorship..and they will most likely mention Turkey.. not Egypt..
Actually you hate most Arabs.. and they know it.. You are just jealous.. that is what your thoughts say about you..try to sugar coat it as you like.. it is too obvious..

Ok so why not start here? Make a poll and lets see. I just dont understand the sensitivity regarding dictatorship. Whats wrong in accepting it? Husni mubarak was a dictator too, many other countries have dictators, so what. As far as ur arab hate claim, i can only laugh. U cudnt answer a single thing and keep winning like a kid. Infact we are blamed for loving arabs and u think we hate them. Its also very sad to see dictators promoting arab nationalism instead of Islamic unity. See how u keep mentioning arabs and never muslims.
 
Ok so why not start here? Make a poll and lets see. I just dont understand the sensitivity regarding dictatorship. Whats wrong in accepting it? Husni mubarak was a dictator too, many other countries have dictators, so what. As far as ur arab hate claim, i can only laugh. U cudnt answer a single thing and keep winning like a kid. Infact we are blamed for loving arabs and u think we hate them. Its also very sad to see dictators promoting arab nationalism instead of Islamic unity. See how u keep mentioning arabs and never muslims.
First define what is a dictator ..
There is nationalism in every country if you did not know it before..and as far as the Arabs are concerned their nationalism as Arabs and their subnationalism for their own countries never conflicted with the Islamic Unity..
I just don't know where you get these ideas from and what motivates you to entertain them in the first place..they are totally wrong..
 
your wishful thinking will not make things facts .....

the facts are :
- Many Ahadith Sharifa from prophet Mohamed صلى الله عليه وسلم taked about the importance of Egypt .
- one or two of our beloved Imams of Islam is very good for other cities/ countries but the country who saved their legacy for 1000 years is Egypt in ALAZHAR ALSHARIF .

- the bright cities of Islamic world was Baghdad , Damascus and Cairo ..... Baghdad destroyed by Mongols and Damascus by Crusaders.

- the country where the Army who saved the world from Savages Mongols was Egypt after invasion of Muslim World destroying Baghdad and controlling cities including your current Iran .

- the country that fought Crusaders and defended Islam in Levant is Egypt .

- the country that fought Portuguese and defended the holy places in Mecca and Medina by controlling the Red Sea ports and blocking the Portuguese raids is Egypt

lol. More like your wishful thinking. You weren’t even a country back then...

the only Islamic country that ( REALLY) fought and defeated Israel is Egypt while others including Iran are just big mouths .

What are you trying to say? You mean you defeated Israel in 1948?

that’s enough boy .... I might give other cultural, scientific and historical lessons but I believe your mind will not bear that much info in one day .

Sorry. But you clearly don’t have any knowledge of history at all.

Before the Mongol invasion. You were ruled by the Seljuks. After the Seljuks you were ruled by the Ottomans. If you are referring to the Mamelukes. They were not even native to Egypt, they were slave soldiers mostly consisting of Turks from different tribes.

The only thing Egypt has done is fight a war with Israel and lose. And now side with Israel on the Israeli-Arab conflict.
 
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stop lying boy .... those have nothing to do with Turks .... they are brought to Egypt as a slaves ... then raised as soldiers in Egypt ..... nothing Turkish about them ....

Mongols defeated inslaved every City,country,Kingdom and Nation they fought against .... including Turks .... but defeated at the Egyptian Gates by the Egyptian Army and some of the fleed Islamic soldiers from Levant , Iran and Khorasan .....

Mamluk army not the Egyptian army. Qutuz and Baybars are not Egyptian.
 
stop lying boy .... those have nothing to do with Turks .... they are brought to Egypt as a slaves ... then raised as soldiers in Egypt ..... nothing Turkish about them .

its my great history boy
MAMLUKS were Kıpchak Turk origin soldiers which become ruler of Mamluk Sultanate of Egypt

and the Bahri Mamluks refer to the dynasty as the State of the Turks (Arabic دولة الاتراك‎, Dawlat al-Atrāk دولة الترك, Dawlat al-Turk) or State of Turkey (الدولة التركية, al-Dawlat al-Turkiyya )


-- The Tulunids were a dynasty of Turkic origin and were the first independent dynasty to rule Egypt as well as much of Syria in 868

-- also Turkic Bahri dynasty ruled Egypt between 1250 and 1389 ( the Mamluk Sultanate was dominated by the Kipchak Turkic Bahri dynasty )

-- and after 1517 Ottoman Empire ruled all Middle East including Egypt for 400 years


BAIBARS KHAN was Turkic origin Sultan of Egypt in the Mamluk Bahri dynasty
He was Commander of the Turkic MAMLUK forces that inflicted a defeat on the 7th Crusade of King Louis IX of France

Turkic origin BAIBARS KHAN also led the vanguard of the Turkic MAMLUK forces at the Battle of Ain Jalut in 1260 which marked the first substantial defeat of the Mongol army and is considered a turning point in history


also Great Seljuk Empire ( TURKS ) beat Crusaders and saved Islamic World
 
Ask anyone in the world which country is run by a dictatorship..and they will most likely mention Turkey.. not Egypt..
Lol, now thats really funny. :lol:

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And has always been more democratic than Turkey too. :yes4:

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Lol, now thats really funny. :lol:

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And has always been more democratic than Turkey too. :yes4:

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Morsi was probably the only one chosen man within democratic ways in Egyptian history. Good or bad, as a result, the will of the people was reflected by the ballot boxes. However, he frightened the tribal leaders of the Gulf so much that the man died in the dungeon.

Mamluk army not the Egyptian army. Qutuz and Baybars are not Egyptian.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulunids
 
Morsi was probably the only one chosen man within democratic ways in Egyptian history. Good or bad, as a result, the will of the people was reflected by the ballot boxes. However, he frightened the tribal leaders of the Gulf so much that the man died in the dungeon.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulunids

His claiming the Manluks are Egyptian. I know the Turks came to Egypt before the Mamluks and the Ottomans.
 
Morsi was probably the only one chosen man within democratic ways in Egyptian history. Good or bad, as a result, the will of the people was reflected by the ballot boxes. However, he frightened the tribal leaders of the Gulf so much that the man died in the dungeon.
Not a fan of Morsi, i would prefer a more centristic leader who is less willing to transform the society but yeah he was certainly the only democratically choosen leader of Egypt.
 

Praise be to Allah, probably the coup attempt in Tunisia was blocked in the last phase. Dozens of Sisi wannabe generals and officers were arrested.

Who attacked the will of the Tunisian people? The answer is in Libya, Yemen and Egypt.

Media outlets in the United Arab Emirates and Egypt have launched a systematic campaign against Rached Ghannouchi, the intellectual leader of Tunisia's Ennahda Movement, to tarnish his image and provoke a storm in his country. The counter-revolution led by Sky News, Saudi-financed Al-Arabiya -- both broadcasts from the UAE -- and Egypt-based Youm7 newspaper, have published simultaneous deceitful news.

Observers believe the campaign wants to create a wedge between the parliament and the presidency and provoke side battles in parliament between Tunisian blocs to dismantle state institutions by striking together.

The campaign coincided with the defeat of the counter-revolution in Libya, after militias loyal to warlord Khalifa Haftar suffered heavy losses in western cities, in addition to the Libyan army's seizing the control of the Al-Watiya airbase that was occupied by putschist forces for about six years. Experts view directing the media rush by the UAE and Egypt against Ghannouchi is an attempt to cover up the new failures in Libya.

However, considering these arrests in the Tunisian army, the situation was more serious than expected.
 

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