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TTP got hands on MANPADS

The weapon shown is the video is SA-7 or similar
The Urdu text when the video starts says that they fired the missile from 3 k-meters and it hit the chopper in the tail rotor.

If they had made such an elaborate plan as they claim and even observed that the shot they fired hitting the tail rotor then why not show the video of the hit ? they make propaganda videos of just about any thing they do

Questions:

1. Did any observer see a smoke trail , TTP claims the fired from 3 KM away , 3 KM is significant distance for missile to travel it will leave a smoke trail that will be visible 15 to 20 minutes or more after missile has traveled.

2. Heat seeker don't usually seek the spinning blade , they seek the engine exhaust , so while its possible that the tail rotor can get hit but more likely the hit will happen near or close to the main rotor.
It was an accident. Every one from paf cheif to diplomats witnessed the crash, foriegn diplomats who survived have also given their statements. If it is a sa7 then it is probably from Afghan war era and useless by now.
 
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LOL

I doubt if these TTP terrorists also boarded the scheduled PIA flights to Turkey and Ryadh to join their ISIS brothers in the first place.
but you have a point, if they DID bring back those SAMs which was always a worry for our security agencies then it is virtually impossible without air transport because there is Iran in the way if they choose the ground route back to Pakistan via Afghanistan.

. I really dont know what route they must have chosen. it has to be illegal and via Afghanistan otherwise it seems impossible. other way is to buy them from the supporters who are also equipping BLA as well but I would expect BLA to showcase it before them.. this shoulder fired missile system seems to be FN6 to me which is used by FSA and ISIS terrorists in Syria and Iraq.


i would shave his goatee with my piss
Sir g, you are forgetting the man in the Shadows - AQ....they have been moving through iran to Afghanistan , Pakistan & Iraq. even though AQ & ISIS don't go along together, but I would not rule out the possibility of AQ using TTP as front man to get the weapon pass through from ISIS via Iran.................
 
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LOL

I doubt if these TTP terrorists also boarded the scheduled PIA flights to Turkey and Ryadh to join their ISIS brothers in the first place.
but you have a point, if they DID bring back those SAMs which was always a worry for our security agencies then it is virtually impossible without air transport because there is Iran in the way if they choose the ground route back to Pakistan via Afghanistan.

. I really dont know what route they must have chosen. it has to be illegal and via Afghanistan otherwise it seems impossible. other way is to buy them from the supporters who are also equipping BLA as well but I would expect BLA to showcase it before them.. this shoulder fired missile system seems to be FN6 to me which is used by FSA and ISIS terrorists in Syria and Iraq.


i would shave his goatee with my piss

No sir MANPADS shown in the video isn't Chinese FN 6. Looks like to be Russian SA7 alias strela


Chinese FN6

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Russian SA7

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One shown in the video
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Irfan, how sure you are that terrorists could not ferry stuff through Iran? We do not like to think along those lines but peace in Pakistan (and subsequent prosperity) does not appear to be high on Iran's priorities and if it was, they never had to construct a port hardly 93 nautical miles from Gwadar. The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
in such case I will accept the possibility that we are allowing the Indian weapons supplies to Indian positions via Gilgit and Sakardu so that they can be used against us later.

TTP, FSA, ISIS is known shia/ Iranian hater and they kill shias for a living
 
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didnt laugh at you but actually at virtually impossible task of brining them here from Syria unless they are brought in Emarites airline of KSA diplomats baggage recall the threat from the UAE prince that we will have to pay a heavy price for not obeying to their demands.
again which is something unthinkable, if they do something that blatant then they will forget how bad Iran was to them.
What about the most obvious possibility that they used a launch to get to a gcc country and smuggled manpads to Pakistan using the sea route? As it is a common route used for other nefarious purposes.
 
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No sir MANPADS shown in the video isn't Chinese FN 6. Looks like to be Russian SA7 alias strela


Chinese FN6

FN-6_portable_air_defense_missile_weapon_system_MANPADS_China_Chinese_army_defense_industry_640_002.jpg


Russian SA7

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One shown in the video
TTP-SAM-7-video-9-e1431184146438.png
yea there is some similarity to blowpipe too but not FN6 for sure
 
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The weapon shown is the video is SA-7 or similar
The Urdu text when the video starts says that they fired the missile from 3 k-meters and it hit the chopper in the tail rotor.

If they had made such an elaborate plan as they claim and even observed that the shot they fired hitting the tail rotor then why not show the video of the hit ? they make propaganda videos of just about any thing they do

Questions:

1. Did any observer see a smoke trail , TTP claims the fired from 3 KM away , 3 KM is significant distance for missile to travel it will leave a smoke trail that will be visible 15 to 20 minutes or more after missile has traveled.

2. Heat seeker don't usually seek the spinning blade , they seek the engine exhaust , so while its possible that the tail rotor can get hit but more likely the hit will happen near or close to the main rotor.

BY same logic, why doesn't PAF relealse videos of the TTP area being bombarded and let the press review the area ?
 
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What about the most obvious possibility that they used a launch to get to a gcc country and smuggled manpads to Pakistan using the sea route? As it is a common route used for other nefarious purposes.
then they have collusion with customs authorities in Karachi port too. everything is possible.
 
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@balixd @Icarus It's a matter of grave concern
on the lighter note, I wish this mullah has pressed that finger of his and pull that damn trigger :agree::wave::yahoo:

BY same logic, why doesn't PAF relealse videos of the TTP area being bombarded and let the press review the area ?
we have released some videos from 2008 op, and later.....the social media is flooded with pics of dead talis
 
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then they have collusion with customs authorities in Karachi port too. everything is possible.
Custom authorities ? seriously? our childern used in camel races in GCC have been smuggled via the same route, the same way. It is a way to get to UAE without visa. Most important of all, Makran coast is used for such purposes, not Karachi port.
 
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BY same logic, why doesn't PAF relealse videos of the TTP area being bombarded and let the press review the area ?
of course there are many such videos throughout our operations
taken by PAF and the terrorists

various clips from terrorists footage


PAF own footage


last one by terrorists themselves when they attacked a Pakistan army Cobra gunship
 
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