The Siachen reality

[aks18]

No man or nation can proclaim ownership of any piece of the Earth. Infact, if anything, we only owe to the Earth.
Our boundaries make us war and no matter how we draw them, we will continue to wage war, like we always have.
The best solution is to declare permanent borders so that there is no room for confusion and the aggressor can be clearly identified.

Please put this deep inside your head that India or Indians have no expansionist ideas and we are quite satisfied with what we have. All we want is peace and we need to be strong just so that we can maintain peace. I dont understand why Pakistanis are so obsessive about Indian aggression ? Take care of Karachi and let god take care of Siachen, for there are more suitable places on the Earth for humans to dwell.

indians should draw back their army from siachen region its disturbing the glacial system of this planet .. you better take care of your naxals and other freedom fighters and feed your 800 million poors instead of wasting resources on this region

 

[Ignited Mind]

how its integral part of your country ?? if we see geographically all the glaciers out side polar region are part of pakistan and siachen is also part of it and it also connects with the baltoro glacier too but indians captured it in 1984

Unless the GoI changes its official stand, the entire region of erstwhile J&K is an integral part of India. Siachen is a land therein.

 

[aks18]

Unless the GoI changes its official stand, the entire region of erstwhile J&K is an integral part of India. Siachen is a land therein.

non of people supports and wants to be part of indian in gilgit baltistan how can you claim for entire state of Jamu n kashmir ??

 

[Ignited Mind]

indians should draw back their army from siachen region its disturbing the glacial system of this planet ..

Sure. Accept AGPL or, better still, convert LoC into Interbational Border and we shall withdraw forces immediately.

you better take care of your naxals and other freedom fighters and feed your 800 million poors instead of wasting resources on this region

Don't think we need an advice. You better take care of your polio. Make sure it doesn't spread to my country.

Anyways if you're itching to help, do consider making a donation to any of these NGO's:

NGOs India, Indian NGOs, NGOs, NGO, Non profit India

You'll find more NGO's if you look for. Depends on how much you're willing to help.

non of people supports and wants to be part of indian in gilgit baltistan how can you claim for entire state of Jamu n kashmir ??

Ask the UN which considers it a disputed territory.

Better still, join voice with India and make UN scrap all the resolutions on Kashmir.

Convert LoC into IB.

Problem solved.

 

[Bang Galore]

The best move is demilitarization and getting out of that inhospitable hell hole which we put sons,brothers and fathers through.
Leave it for the adventurous thrill seekers to try scale those heights on weekends.
and stop damaging the critical environmental balance in that region due to our presence.

Will agree with you if you think that's what we must do all along the border. Indian soldiers have, after Kargil, manned 365 days of the year, all the posts in the Kargil Drass sector in just as miserable conditions as Siachen. No real point in pretending that Siachen is somehow unique. Only demilitarise when both countries move towards a decidely less confrontational stance, otherwise all that will happen is more bad blood.

 

[aks18]

Sure. Accept AGPL or, better still, convert LoC into Interbational Border and we shall withdraw forces immediately.



Don't think we need an advice. You better take care of your polio. Make sure it doesn't spread to my country.

Anyways if you're itching to help, do consider making a donation to any of these NGO's:

NGOs India, Indian NGOs, NGOs, NGO, Non profit India

You'll find more NGO's if you look for. Depends on how much you're willing to help.



Ask the UN which considers it a disputed territory.

Better still, join voice with India and make UN scrap all the resolutions on Kashmir.

Convert LoC into IB.

Problem solved.

polio was spread by the 3rd class indian medicines in pakistan ,, why you guys wasting money on siachen why not feeding 800 million poor people of india ?? you ppl neeed Ngo's to help indians ?? while helping the poor is part of our culture and religion

Ask the UN which considers it a disputed territory.

Better still, join voice with India and make UN scrap all the resolutions on Kashmir.

Convert LoC into IB.

Problem solved.

UN also says for the refrendom in the disputed area of kashmir did you guys went for it ?? no how many times you accepted the resolutions of UN over kashmir ??

 

[Bang Galore]

indians should draw back their army from siachen region its disturbing the glacial system of this planet .. you better take care of your naxals and other freedom fighters and feed your 800 million poors instead of wasting resources on this region

Thank you for your kind advice but we are not too keen on the content. Therefore, we will, even if a person as neutral as yourself think otherwise, do exactly as we please. i.e. thank you but no !

 

[aks18]

Will agree with you if you think that's what we must do all along the border. Indian soldiers have, after Kargil, manned 365 days of the year, all the posts in the Kargil Drass sector in just as miserable conditions as Siachen. No real point in pretending that Siachen is somehow unique. Only demilitarise when both countries move towards a decidely less confrontational stance, otherwise all that will happen is more bad blood.

before the invasion of Indian forces Siachen was a peaceful area for the trekkers and adventure lovers and indians destroyed the peace of this region

 

[Ignited Mind]

polio was spread by the 3rd class indian medicines in pakistan ,,

why you guys wasting money on siachen why not feeding 800 million poor people of india ?? you ppl neeed Ngo's to help indians ?? while helping the poor is part of our culture and religion

We need all the help we can get.

Anyways, nobody had stopped you from using your own 4th class medicines. But I believe that would be inhuman.

If eradicating polio doesn't capture your imagination, you can help the 2million of Pakistani kids who do not have access to education.

or you can help feed the 50% Pakistanis who do not have access to enough food.

 

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indians should draw back their army from siachen region its disturbing the glacial system of this planet .. you better take care of your naxals and other freedom fighters and feed your 800 million poors instead of wasting resources on this region

We never had an army in Siachen. Maybe you need to read about how Siachen got militarized in the first place.
Now it is too late to withdraw, and we have learnt much due to Siachen.
Dont worry about India, we can take care of ourselves. The 800 million poor will take care of themselves too, but who will take care of Jinnah's dream ?

It is better to live poor than live in fear, and surely better to be poor and have hope for a future.. rather than be poor, live in constant fear with an uncertain future.

 

[aks18]

We need all the help we can get.

Anyways, nobody had stopped you from using your own 4th class medicines. But I believe that would be inhuman.

If eradicating polio doesn't capture your imagination, you can help the 2million of kids who do not have access to education.

or you can help feed the 50% Pakistanis who do not have access to enough food.

no one dies of hunger in pakistan every day millions of rupees are being spent on food in pakistan for the poor people near the tombs of sufi ulama;s and its part of our culture as i told you before pakistani's have highest number of giving charity in per capita income in whole world . and secondly about education we are taking better steps on it but first save the 800 million poor indians from hunger

 

[Ignited Mind]

UN also says for the refrendom in the disputed area of kashmir did you guys went for it ?? no how many times you accepted the resolutions of UN over kashmir ??

Can't. Many Kashmiris want independence, though I do not think they'd get even that from us, anyways, there's no provision of independece as a possible option in the UN resolutions.

Apart from that, many things have changed.

Anyways, that is not the topic of this thread.

 

[karan.1970]

no one dies of hunger in pakistan every day millions of rupees are being spent on food in pakistan for the poor people near the tombs of sufi ulama;s and its part of our culture as i told you before pakistani's have highest number of giving charity in per capita income in whole world . and secondly about education we are taking better steps on it but first save the 800 million poor indians from hunger

 

[Ignited Mind]

no one dies of hunger in pakistan every day millions of rupees are being spent on food in pakistan for the poor people near the tombs of sufi ulama;s and its part of our culture as i told you before pakistani's have highest number of giving charity in per capita income in whole world . and secondly about education we are taking better steps on it but first save the 800 million poor indians from hunger

50% Pakistanis remain food insecure: WFP – The Express Tribune

As per Islam itself, one innocent life is equal to all humanity. Hence, there's no difference between 9 million or 800 million (though that figure itself is not true).

 

[aks18]

We never had an army in Siachen. Maybe you need to read about how Siachen got militarized in the first place.
Now it is too late to withdraw, and we have learnt much due to Siachen.
Dont worry about India, we can take care of ourselves. The 800 million poor will take care of themselves too, but who will take care of Jinnah's dream ?

It is better to live poor than live in fear, and surely better to be poor and have hope for a future.. rather than be poor, live in constant fear with an uncertain future.

Imran khan is in the field to full fill the jinnah;s dream and out youth is along him dont worry dear

50% Pakistanis remain food insecure: WFP – The Express Tribune

As per Islam itself, one innocent life is equal to all humanity. Hence, there's no difference between 9 million or 800 million (though that figure itself is not true).

People do not have access to food items which have the nutritional value to meet their requirements


this is the line from your provided link is about insure food not shortage of food :S