The Great Game Changer: Belt and Road Intiative (BRI; OBOR)

[NiceGuy]

You would have been dead 100 times by the time China collapses。

And when China collapses，the whole world collapses。

Then we can all call it a day and start afresh。

I just wanna tell u that, US wont be our problem when China collapse , so try to survive, if u collapse, then its ur own problem, we dont worry that Vn could be the next target for US (maybe the VN communist leaders could be the next target, but who cares, I'm not the leader ?? )

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

I wonder how you want to bail them out? it is too late. the ball has rolled. by the way, chinese money is not cheap, not for russia. I was against russian politics in eastern ukraine, and predicted such thing would come.

You Vietcong will never understand the balance importance between China and Russia.

Putin is our buffer zone, thus he is our natural ally.

The West is now trying to pull out a Gaddafi 2.0 on him, and how China will just stay there and do nothing to help its buffer zone?

It is crystal clear that the West wanna first destroy the Russian economy, then to create the conflict between the dissatisfied Russian citizens and Putin's government. Eventually, they will stir up another color revolution to overthrow Putin.

Didn't you know that we are still buying Russia's oil at $135 per barrel? Despite the current oil price is less than $60 per barrel. We are clearly trying to help him.

 

[boke]

不好说，俄罗斯毕竟是瘦死骆驼比马大，它不会那么容易玩完的，普京不过是在表现虚弱的表现，如果中国把自己捆绑在苏联的战车上那就不用赶在现在，当初苏联想捆绑中国老毛就没同意，要不然起码朝鲜和越南在政治上不会和中国那么疏远。现在的问题是中国需要一个和平发展的环境，即使是有冲突对抗那也必须是和自身的利益直接相关而不是扛起他国的负资产。毕竟，钓鱼岛和南海利益涉及中国的核心利益，俄也没有表现出该有的盟友态度，卖武器，联合探油，在国际舆论方面也并不支持中国维护核心利益，现在需要中国来帮忙了，那么为什么我们要无谓的牺牲呢？我们的那么多领土都是在当今俄的非法侵占下，俄也心安理得的继续占着，甚至连句反省道歉都没有，这样我们还要主动网上贴？为什么？

 

[Viet]

The oil price collapse benifits CHina lot for sure.

benefit china? not necessary. china is a oil producer as well. you suffer, too. have you forgotten you have large investments in overseas in oil and gas sectors? all of those investments make losses. 100%. with the current oil price, only the saudi laugh because they have very low cost.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

benefit china? not necessary. china is a oil producer as well. you suffer, too. have you forgotten you have large investments in overseas in oil and gas sectors? all of those investments make losses. 100%.

We import much more than our production.

Also, our production is purely for the domestic consumption, since we don't export any oil.

 

[Ruisheng]

不好说，俄罗斯毕竟是瘦死骆驼比马大，它不会那么容易玩完的，普京不过是在表现虚弱的表现，如果中国把自己捆绑在苏联的战车上那就不用赶在现在，当初苏联想捆绑中国老毛就没同意，要不然起码朝鲜和越南在政治上不会和中国那么疏远。现在的问题是中国需要一个和平发展的环境，即使是有冲突对抗那也必须是和自身的利益直接相关而不是扛起他国的负资产。毕竟，钓鱼岛和南海利益涉及中国的核心利益，俄也没有表现出该有的盟友态度，卖武器，联合探油，在国际舆论方面也并不支持中国维护核心利益，现在需要中国来帮忙了，那么为什么我们要无谓的牺牲呢？我们的那么多领土都是在当今俄的非法侵占下，俄也心安理得的继续占着，甚至连句反省道歉都没有，这样我们还要主动网上贴？为什么？

没人卖他东西的时候我们卖，就是在帮他了。我们不可能免费供应。

 

[Viet]

You Vietcong will never understand the balance importance between China and Russia.

Putin is our buffer zone, thus he is our natural ally.

The West is now trying to pull out a Gaddafi 2.0 on him, and how China will just stay there and do nothing to help its buffer zone?

It is crystal clear that the West wanna first destroy the Russian economy, then to create the conflict between the dissatisfied Russian citizens and Putin's government. Eventually, they will stir up another color revolution to overthrow Putin.

Didn't you know that we are still buying Russia's oil at $135 per barrel? Despite the current oil price is less than $60 per barrel. We are clearly trying to help him.

you buy Russia's oil at $135 per barrel? nice for russia, if true. I bet it is an old contract. will you ready to close a new contract with $100 per barrel?

come on, you know how politics is in reality. russia as buffer zone? against whom? all I can see is you cozy up to the americans. if you lose the US market, your future is dark. so, it is better, don´t mess with america.

 

[NiceGuy]

You Vietcong will never understand the balance importance between China and Russia.

Putin is our buffer zone, thus he is our natural ally.

The West is now trying to pull out a Gaddafi 2.0 on him, and how China will just stay there and do nothing to help its buffer zone?

It is crystal clear that the West wanna first destroy the Russian economy, then to create the conflict between the dissatisfied Russian citizens and Putin's government. Eventually, they will stir up another color revolution to overthrow Putin.

Didn't you know that we are still buying Russia's oil at $135 per barrel? Despite the current oil price is less than $60 per barrel. We are clearly trying to help him.

We understand that if Russia die, China will die ,too. But we also understand that when China die, VN will still survive and have a big chance to take back Guangdong-Guangxi-Paracel-Spratly plus a chance to unify sub-Mekong region.

Its just like when China died by Mongol, Vn had lots of time to annex small neighbours , so who cares if China collapse

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

We understand that if Russia die, China will die ,too. But we also understand that when China die, VN will still survive and have a big chance to take back Guangdong-Guangxi-Paracel-Spratly plus a chance to unify sub-Mekong region.

Its just like when China died by Mongol, Vn had lots of time to annex small neighbours , so who cares if China collapse

China will get surrounded by the NATO if Russia got destroyed first.

But it is not going to happen as Putin's Russia won't die.

 

[cirr]

Oil has hit a rough patch which has provided us with the time needed to gather and perfect the know-hows for future shale oil/gas exploration and production。

The US，being the leader in shale oil and a just-turned net energy exporter，surely regrets “investing” trillions of USDs in a business that was starting to look very promising but now suddenly turns loss-making。

 

[Viet]

We import much more than our production.

Also, our production is purely for the domestic consumption, since we don't export any oil.

how much is your domestic production cost per barrel?
if it is lower than market price, it is better to import more oil.

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

you buy Russia's oil at $135 per barrel? nice for russia, if true. I bet it is an old contract. will you ready to close a new contract with $100 per barrel?

come on, you know how politics is in reality. russia as buffer zone? against whom? all I can see is you cozy up to the americans. if you lose the US market, your future is dark. so, it is better, don´t mess with america.

Nope, we can do business with the US, but it won't change the fact that the US will also remain as our biggest geopolitical opponent.

Just like Russia still does business with Exxon Mobil despite the western sanctions, but does this mean that Russia and the US become the friend? Nope.

The world geopolitics is much more complicated than you thought.

 

[NiceGuy]

China will get surrounded by the NATO if Russia got destroyed first.

But it is not going to happen as Putin's Russia won't die.

If u dont wanna die, then u should help VN to unify sub-Mekong region, when we get stronger, we can offer more help back to u

 

[ChineseTiger1986]

how much is your domestic production cost per barrel?
if it is lower than market price, it is better to import more oil.

Our oil production is tiny compared to the amount of oil import.

And many of our oil fields are closed or remain untouched.

 

[TaiShang]

We understand that if Russia die, China will die ,too. But we also understand that when China die, VN will still survive and have a big chance to take back Guangdong-Guangxi-Paracel-Spratly plus a chance to unify sub-Mekong region.

Its just like when China died by Mongol, Vn had lots of time to annex small neighbours , so who cares if China collapse

Now you start dreaming a proxy collapse of China as a result of a far-fetched collapse of Russia? You are verging dangerously on insanity, my friend. Too much hatred blinds your vision.

benefit china? not necessary. china is a oil producer as well. you suffer, too. have you forgotten you have large investments in overseas in oil and gas sectors? all of those investments make losses. 100%. with the current oil price, only the saudi laugh because they have very low cost.

China's domestic production is for domestic consumption only. So, cheap oil prices help China. In fact, there was news on the increased activity on China's part in terms of oil shipments. This is the right time to fill up China's SPRs.

I wonder how you want to bail them out? buying russian oil by $100 when the market price is $60? no, it is too late. the ball has rolled. by the way, chinese money is not cheap, not for russia. I was against russian politics in eastern ukraine, and predicted such thing would come.

China and Russia already signed a slew of contracts and agreements, way before Western sanctions started to bite. There will be a way out, rest assured. So, do not start too early to jump on behalf of the West.

The eastward expansion of the NATO is just not Ukraine at the border with Russia, but to Kazakhstan at the border with China's Xinjiang.

Their final grand scheme is to squeeze China in between the NATO from Central Asia and the US led alliance in the Asia-Pacific region.

US has played a double strategy on China and Russia. Because China is strong financially, it played the Hong Kong stunt on China and apparently failed.

On Russia, they are playing the economy game (because their earlier plot to soft kill Putin failed). Russia will emerge from this even stronger because there is China right at the border.