Terrorists opened fire on Turkish soldiers along the Iran border, 1 soldier martyred and 2 injured

[CAN_TR]

about air force:
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AMRAAM vs Phoenix

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F-16 is not a match for F-14 specially your C version. if you could establish air superiority over your own soil i would consider u lucky.

Are you trying to say Iranian F-14 with 40 years old Phoenix are superior to F-16 Blk52+ with modern AIM-120C-7?

 

[Mithridates]

Are you trying to say Iranian F-14 with 40 years old Phoenix are superior to F-16 Blk52+ with modern AIM-120C-7?

yes lol.

 

[skyshadow]

You talk like AWE&CS are easy to shoot down, they are not especially if they are escorted by aircrafts with EW/Jamming pods.

Sure... 3000km

EW/Jamming pods already did here best to stop a Iranian AD missile but they field so there is a real battlefield proven Air defense system that hit its target the was equipped with EW/Jamming pods and do not forget Israel F-16 that was shot with 4 decade old S-200 in Syrian sky that F-16 was equipped with EW/Jamming pods too.


dude do not sure me, im not talking out of ignorance here, do you know what over the horizon radars are??? i'm sure you know what they are, and Iran has some huge over the horizon radars for almost 2 decades with the most powerful one be Keyhan with a range well over 3000 KM those are official claims, do you want pictures too?

Are you trying to say Iranian F-14 with 40 years old Phoenix are superior to F-16 Blk52+ with modern AIM-120C-7?

who said they are 40 years old???? do some research PLZ and learn what did Iran do with its F-14s

dose that looks 40 years old to you? just look at the size of that Air to Air missile then tell me when a F-14 pick up an F-16 which one is going to shoot first, this missile or AIM-120C??, lets just say the F-16 is a Israeli F-16 as i have nothing against Turkey we are allies for now.

 

[MMM-E]

Iran always supported Pkk terror organization against Turkey
even Iran control and support top leader terrorists of Pkk in Qandil and N.Iraq


Turkish Airforce 230 F-16 and 47 F-4 TERMINATOR Fighter Jets armed with most modern Missiles to attack Air Defense Systems , Military and Strategic Targets in the Middle East

-- AGM-142 POPEYE Cruise Missile ( 75 km )
-- AGM-154 JSOW Glide Bombs ( 130 km )
-- AGM-88 HARM Anti radiation Missile ( 150km )
-- AGM-84 SLAM-ER Cruise Missile ( 280 km )
-- SOM Cruise Missile ( 280 km )

-- AIM-9x sidewinder air to air missile ( 26 km )
-- AIM-120B air to air missile ( 74 km )
-- AIM-120C7 air to air missile ( 120 km )

Self-Protection Electronic Warfare Suite (SPEWS II) for 57 F-16Cs block50 to provide protection in hostile zones against Air Defense Systems

also Turkey has developed 1.000 km Ballistic Missile ( Tel Aviv - Tehran - Baghdad , Damascus , Cairo under range of Turkish Military Fire power )

btw Turkey and Azerbaijan should support 35-40 million Turks in Iran for free South Azerbaijan

Iran never can match with Turkey in the region therefore Iran and Assad Regime are hiding behind of Russia

Iran is ungrateful country , so Turkey should stop supporting Iran against The US , Israel and S.Arabia

 

[Taskforce]

Shouldn’t Iran be more worried about Saudi Arabia and Israel invading? Wtf do these Iranians want.

 

[xbat]

ha ha , Iran with 10-15 old F14 vs 240 F16s of Turkey.

 

[skyshadow]

ha ha , Iran with 10-15 old F14 vs 240 F16s of Turkey.

it dose not matter old or new, when each time a F-16 appears in F-14 radar its going to be shoot down before it has a chance to get in range to shoot a missile at the F-14 we are talking about 300 km Air to Air missile with active and semi-active homing guidance with top attack capability they are shoot and forget type and with speeds of mach +5

 

[xbat]

and you think your 40+ years old F14 can lock on an f16 ccip from 300km range. interesting... if aim 154 was so good US would manufacture them and apply for other fighters in her inventory. F16 can carry 2 x 2000lbs bombs even new ones 4, so they can modify f16 to carry phoneix but they never tried, you should think why?

 

[Taskforce]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1186668022326579200

 

[skyshadow]

and you think your 40+ years old F14 can lock on an f16 ccip from 300km range. interesting... if aim 154 was so good US would manufacture them and apply for other fighters in her inventory. F16 can carry 2 x 2000lbs bombs even new ones 4, so they can modify f16 to carry phoneix but they never tried, you should think why?

4 x 2000lbs bombs is not a new thing that a F-14 cannot do, that capability was around from 1980s
I'm afraid and you can add 2 more under the wings so that will make it 6 x 2000lbs and those are not 40 years old missiles no, those are second generation phoenix missiles with better radars and extended ranges higher speeds they are deadlier missiles and the only fighter that you can compare to F-14 is F-15 that are at the same class not F-16 and yes Iran has been upgrading its F-4s and F-14 so that nothing except the engines are US made in those fighters, do not get me wrong PLZ F-16s are really good, the D version and block 70 those are really gooooood but they are not as much powerful as a F-14 but F-15 C now those are comparable.

 

[xbat]

WHAT EVER! the idea of large radar guided AA missile was not good, that is my point, active radar seeker missile is weak cause of weak power supply and small antenna , cant track targets from long distances, if you use semi active seeker you need to enlight the target continuously that is much worse than first one. all modern fighters can break radar locks for long ranges, missile probably wouldnt meet the target when it reached intended intersection point.

 

[skyshadow]

WHAT EVER! the idea of large radar guided AA missile was not good, that is my point, active radar seeker missile is weak cause of weak power supply and small antenna , cant track targets from long distances, if you use semi active seeker you need to enlight the target continuously that is much worse than first one. all modern fighters can break radar locks for long ranges, missile probably wouldnt meet the target when it reached intended intersection point.

i get what you are saying at long distances like 300 km the F-16 can easily bleed the missile and when its on semi active than the F-14 must be in 200 km range and constantly be locked or get a lock as fast as it can on F-16 which is really hard to do almost impossible but that dose not mean the F-16 has better BVR as F-14 with the missile that i told you about still beats it with its BVR range and with the first missile launched by F14 then F16 has to go defensive right away that means dropping every thing it has be it extra fuel tank or bombs as they makes it heavy then it has and go supersonic as fast as possible so you see attacking Iran is not a easy task to do and Iran has 8 years of war experience with its air force

 

[Mithridates]

Shouldn’t Iran be more worried about Saudi Arabia and Israel invading? Wtf do these Iranians want.

Iran does not threatening turkey, people in PDF are fighting lol.

and you think your 40+ years old F14 can lock on an f16 ccip from 300km range.

AWG-9 has 370 km detecting range against 5 sqm target. for F-16 (1 m^2) it range drops to 250 km, as it's not possible to launch a missile on target as you detect it the range drops further to 200 km. phoenix range is 195 km (fakour, iranian version has 160 km but better seeker and battery) but it's highly unlikely to launch that from 200 km away possibly an Iranian f-14 will launch it of something like 150-180 km even less but the point is AIM-54 superiority to AMRAAM is it's top attack trajectory, heavy warhead, longer active range and +5 mach speed. in the same scenario F-16 will launch it's slower, short range missile from 90-120 km. it's totally a disadvantage.
in this possible scenario TUAF F-16 advantage to F-14 would be better EW (if we assume F-14 uses AIM-54 and not fakour) and better T/W ratio. for F-14 it's the long range radar, higher speed, better missile and better endurance and range. let's not forget US refereed to F-16 as cheap solution to fill the gap between expensive to operate F-14 and F-15 and soviet cheap to operate and large number jets.

 

[Shapur Zol Aktaf]

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@CamelGuy
If things ever go out of hand, we will call Qasim. On his curriculum vitae, we read:
11 March 1957 - 23-10-2019: solving troubles, taking care of problems.

 

[Saddam Hussein]

@CamelGuy
If things ever go out of hand, we will call Qasim. On his curriculum vitae, we read:
11 March 1957 - 23-10-2019: solving troubles, taking care of problems.

They (in red) would all turn into Basiji once Ghassem is done with them. Any separatist movement in the region has only one result, cancerous western intervention with destruction as a result. Therefore all of such attempts are hostile.