Taiwan affairs

[TaiShang]

Now some pro-independence Taiwanese propose the concept of "Greater China"

United Daily News: Shih Ming-teh's Greater One China proposal | Cross-Strait Affairs | FOCUS TAIWAN - CNA ENGLISH NEWS

Seven political figures led by former Democratic Progressive Party (DPP) Chairman Shih Ming-teh put forward a Greater One China concept in Taipei Tuesday, in the hope that it would help different political groups across the Taiwan Strait get around their political differences and move forward.

According to the proposal, the Greater One China is an expanded version of the current one-China concept, comprising both the People's Republic of China in Beijing and the Republic of China in Taiwan. Each side has its own sovereignty, which however overlaps with the other, and both are connected by the Greater One China concept, the proposal states.

"Some" Taiwanese also believe in moon god.

 

[Lux de Veritas]

The Ma Ying Jeou KMT administration is quite pro-PRC, and in many ways, trying to go the way of stealth integration with PRC. Instead of supporting Vietnam on Paracel, Ma Ying Jeou administration tell the whole world that "from the perspective of history, geography and international law, the ROC’s inherent territory extends to the Spratly Islands (Nansha Islands, 南沙群島), Paracels, Macclesfield Bank (Zhongsha Islands, 中沙群島) and Pratas Islands (Dongsha Islands, 東沙群島) as well as their surrounding waters and respective seabed and subsoil."

So Ma told everyone Paracel and Spratly belongs to Republic of China. This time, Ma has stabbed USA at the back.

Taiwan reiterates Paracel Islands sovereignty claim - Taipei Times

The government on Friday reiterated its claim over the disputed Paracel Islands (Xisha Islands, 西沙群島) in the South China Sea while expressing concern over escalating tensions between Vietnam and China over a large Chinese oil rig in the area.

Tensions in the broad swath of sea have so escalated that as many as dozens of Chinese and Vietnamese ships are in a standoff, sparking worries that a larger conflict could be brewing.

As the two claimants continued to rebuke each other over the incidents, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs rejected their claims of sovereignty over or occupation of the islands, which it said rightfully belong to the Republic of China (ROC) government.

The ministry reiterated its position that “from the perspective of history, geography and international law,” the ROC’s inherent territory extends to the Spratly Islands (Nansha Islands, 南沙群島), Paracels, Macclesfield Bank (Zhongsha Islands, 中沙群島) and Pratas Islands (Dongsha Islands, 東沙群島) as well as their surrounding waters and respective seabed and subsoil.

“There is no doubt that the Republic of China has sovereignty over the archipelagos and waters,” the statement said.

 

[EastSea]

The Ma Ying Jeou KMT administration is quite pro-PRC, and in many ways, trying to go the way of stealth integration with PRC. Instead of supporting Vietnam on Paracel, Ma Ying Jeou administration tell the whole world that "from the perspective of history, geography and international law, the ROC’s inherent territory extends to the Spratly Islands (Nansha Islands, 南沙群島), Paracels, Macclesfield Bank (Zhongsha Islands, 中沙群島) and Pratas Islands (Dongsha Islands, 東沙群島) as well as their surrounding waters and respective seabed and subsoil."

So Ma told everyone Paracel and Spratly belongs to Republic of China. This time, Ma has stabbed USA at the back.

Taiwan reiterates Paracel Islands sovereignty claim - Taipei Times

The government on Friday reiterated its claim over the disputed Paracel Islands (Xisha Islands, 西沙群島) in the South China Sea while expressing concern over escalating tensions between Vietnam and China over a large Chinese oil rig in the area.

Tensions in the broad swath of sea have so escalated that as many as dozens of Chinese and Vietnamese ships are in a standoff, sparking worries that a larger conflict could be brewing.

As the two claimants continued to rebuke each other over the incidents, the Ministry of Foreign Affairs rejected their claims of sovereignty over or occupation of the islands, which it said rightfully belong to the Republic of China (ROC) government.

The ministry reiterated its position that “from the perspective of history, geography and international law,” the ROC’s inherent territory extends to the Spratly Islands (Nansha Islands, 南沙群島), Paracels, Macclesfield Bank (Zhongsha Islands, 中沙群島) and Pratas Islands (Dongsha Islands, 東沙群島) as well as their surrounding waters and respective seabed and subsoil.

“There is no doubt that the Republic of China has sovereignty over the archipelagos and waters,” the statement said.

claim of ROC is baseless.

 

[Lux de Veritas]

Latest Research of Taiwanese identity

公告：臺灣民眾臺灣人/中國人認同趨勢分佈(1992年06月~2014年12月） - 政治大學 選舉研究中心

 

[magic-007]

Latest Research of Taiwanese identity

公告：臺灣民眾臺灣人/中國人認同趨勢分佈(1992年06月~2014年12月） - 政治大學 選舉研究中心

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真的不介意台湾人当不当自己是中国人，反正它独立不了就是了。 中国高层一心谋发展，真没那个闲心去在乎外界的看法，而中国公民没事就看看台湾岛民的自我折腾与内耗，也算是件好事，其实你所发的新闻，中国人都很清楚。不过，你这这贴子一发下来，越南人倒是挺闪眼。在这版面你这新加坡人应该各国事情都轮流发一发，也把越南的事情给发一发，因为在这个论坛除了中印，就是越南网民最多了。找一些新鲜的话题，这样的贴子才会赚点击率，才卖座。大家也愿意看，我们逛论坛不光是寻找娱乐，更多的是阐释自己对某件事的见解并与他人交流看法，这当然就包括谁的看法最独到，谁的观点最出人意料，谁的贴子就能久置首页。不管做什么事，都要聪明点，玩就玩的有艺术点，说就说的有理一点，切不可太认真了。上次是中国，这次是台湾，希望下次看到越南的新闻。

 

[CHN Bamboo]

中华传统…汉服呢？古建筑呢？古典乐器呢？台湾有一个吗？只有繁体字？www
另外教育者是个很大的问题吧，毕竟教育权不在，新的一代的思想是很容易改变的

 

[magic-007]

中华传统…汉服呢？古建筑呢？古典乐器呢？台湾有一个吗？只有繁体字？www
另外教育者是个很大的问题吧，毕竟教育权不在，新的一代的思想是很容易改变的

你认为繁体字是传统文化？台湾现在是在两蒋时期，特别是吃蒋经国时期给台湾建设起来的一切的老本，自台独先锋李陈先后掌权开始，台湾就一直在走下坡路。现在的台湾毫无建树，前途可谓一片黑暗。不管这里有没有台湾人看到，我就这样说了。这只能怪台湾人整天内耗，（台湾所谓的本土人看不起外省人，但是细看一下，台湾最优秀的企业以及蒋经国领袖都是祖上居住在台湾没超过一两代的外省人）政客们只关心权利的掌握以及连任，不关心老百姓的生活。现在唯一的优势只是的生活水平高大陆三倍而已，但是，这有什么好骄傲的呢，因为台湾只有那么人口那么大土地，发展起来比大陆容易多了。最让人可笑的是其人均gdp十年如一日始终徘徊在2万美金上下，真服了这帮台湾政客，占了这么好的地理的优势以及先期的良好工业基础（比韩国都好），发展还是这个样子。要不是中国人口多，人均gdp早就破两万了。但中国也不差啊，看看印度，我们取得的进步实在是太多了。这帮人说我们说大话，但这都是事实啊。当然，若是有人拿中国大陆和台湾比较，我认为根本就没有可比性。

 

[People's guard]

I also like the Japanese. But I believe that China（including Taiwan） will not become Japanese.

 

[GoGetIt]

其实我很期待民进党上台

 

[CHN Bamboo]

你认为繁体字是传统文化？台湾现在是在两蒋时期，特别是吃蒋经国时期给台湾建设起来的一切的老本，自台独先锋李陈先后掌权开始，台湾就一直在走下坡路。现在的台湾毫无建树，前途可谓一片黑暗。不管这里有没有台湾人看到，我就这样说了。这只能怪台湾人整天内耗，（台湾所谓的本土人看不起外省人，但是细看一下，台湾最优秀的企业以及蒋经国领袖都是祖上居住在台湾没超过一两代的外省人）政客们只关心权利的掌握以及连任，不关心老百姓的生活。现在唯一的优势只是的生活水平高大陆三倍而已，但是，这有什么好骄傲的呢，因为台湾只有那么人口那么大土地，发展起来比大陆容易多了。最让人可笑的是其人均gdp十年如一日始终徘徊在2万美金上下，真服了这帮台湾政客，占了这么好的地理的优势以及先期的良好工业基础（比韩国都好），发展还是这个样子。要不是中国人口多，人均gdp早就破两万了。但中国也不差啊，看看印度，我们取得的进步实在是太多了。这帮人说我们说大话，但这都是事实啊。当然，若是有人拿中国大陆和台湾比较，我认为根本就没有可比性。

不，是他们认为的“传统文化”，每次有台湾人说传统，肯定搬繁体字出来
另外台湾的GDP..我一直觉得有水分啊哈哈【天涯上的观点，不确定】

I also like the Japanese. But I believe that China（including Taiwan） will not become Japanese.

我原本也喜欢日本…后来被2ch上的“支那豚”气到了 还有各种没良心的话对我的刺激太大，反日只在一瞬……

 

[Yizhi]

亲们还是用英文吧，不然这跟国内论坛有啥区别= =

天作孽犹可违；自作孽不可活。
God plays havoc on us is forgivable, but the evil we bring onto ourselves is the hardest to bear.

they are not going anywhere. Taiwanese politicians know it very well, especially the DPP.
it's the Taiwanese people who'll suffer the most. but thanks to 'democracy' and 'people's choice', they can't blame it on others.

 

[magic-007]

不，是他们认为的“传统文化”，每次有台湾人说传统，肯定搬繁体字出来
另外台湾的GDP..我一直觉得有水分啊哈哈【天涯上的观点，不确定】


我原本也喜欢日本…后来被2ch上的“支那豚”气到了 还有各种没良心的话对我的刺激太大，反日只在一瞬……

那个台版天涯论坛吧？ 我几年前就没去逛了。

亲们还是用英文吧，不然这跟国内论坛有啥区别= =

天作孽犹可违；自作孽不可活。
God plays havoc on us is forgivable, but the evil we bring onto ourselves is the hardest to bear.

they are not going anywhere. Taiwanese politicians know it very well, especially the DPP.
it's the Taiwanese people who'll suffer the most. but thanks to 'democracy' and 'people's choice', they can't blame it on others.

Yeah ,i think the same as you do

 

[Lux de Veritas]

Most Taiwanese want to maintain status quo or go independence.

 

[northeast]

Most Taiwanese want to maintain status quo or go independence.

Most people don't care about what taiwanese think about.It doesn't matter after all.Sadly，In reality，Taiwan is just a playground of Great Powers，just like what happens in WWII，nobody cares what these malay cowards，not even themselves.

 

[Lux de Veritas]

TSMC is the pride of Taiwanese (Chinese) people. She is just a few months behind Intel in IC manufacturing technology.

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