Son in law of Ayman Al Zawahiri arrested from Karachi

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We have t clean Pakistan...…. Secure Pakistan ,,,,,, first start from afganis and bangalis please....

 

[LeGenD]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1064520246629928960

Lo jee.

May I remind you that ISI is one of the best intelligence agencies in the world.

Your point?

They capitalized on Pakistani FEARS when Soviets invaded Afghanistan, and put their guns on Pakistani shoulders to take pot shots at Russian forces in Afghanistan. And when the desired goals bore fruit, they eliminated Zia regime in one go.

The Frankenstein Monster (Salafi jihadism) which they forged to defeat Russians in Afghanistan with help of Pakistan and KSA, became unhinged and turned its fists on its creators eventually and millions more paid a terrible price.

In case you don't know, they ALLOWED Al-Qaeda remnants (including Osama Bin Laden) to slip into Pakistan from Tora Bora back in 2001. These terrorists leveraged their connections in Pakistan to their advantage (Ummah Card), and infiltrated several Pakistani cities. Some got busted along the way but the most high profile were found taking nap in Abbottabad and Karachi.

Perhaps you did not pay attention to recent tweet of Donald Trump; he highlighted Abbottabad. This is the card they might exploit at some point in the future.

Pakistan have no strategic depth.

 

[VCheng]

Lo jee.


Your point?

They capitalized on Pakistani FEARS when Soviets invaded Afghanistan, and put their guns on Pakistani shoulder to take pot shots at Russian forces. And when the job was done, they eliminated Zia regime in one go.

The Frankenstein Monster (Salafi jihadism) which they forged to defeat Russians in Afghanistan with help of Pakistan and KSA, became unhinged and turned its fists on its creators eventually and millions more paid the price since.

In case you don't know, they ALLOWED Al-Qaeda remnants (including Osama Bin Laden) to slip into Pakistan from Tora Bora back in 2001. These terrorists leveraged their connections in Pakistan to their advantage (Ummah Card), and infiltrated several Pakistani cities. Some got busted along the way but the most high profile were found taking nap in Abbottabad and Karachi.

Perhaps you did not pay attention to recent tweet of Donald Trump; he mentioned Abbottabad. This is the card they might exploit at some point in the future.

Pakistan have no strategic depth.

My point is that the ISI did whatever it needed to do to pursue Pakistan's national interests as it understood them. And they are still doing that. They are not fools, after all.

 

[LeGenD]

My point is that the ISI did whatever it needed to do to pursue Pakistan's national interests as it understood them. And they are still doing that. They are not fools, after all.

The writing is on the WALL and you are saying that Paksitan was not FOOLED.

 

[VCheng]

The writing is on the WALL and you are saying that we are not FOOLED.

Pakistan will not be undone by mere graffiti, my dear Sir. There is always room to seek a new direction.

 

[LeGenD]

Pakistan will not be undone by mere graffiti, my dear Sir. There is always room to seek a new direction.

We cannot undo what happened in Abbottabad. They have a brilliant card to exploit.

Point is to stay away from the games of superpowers.

 

[VCheng]

We cannot undo what happened in Abbottabad. They have a brilliant card to exploit.

Point is to stay away from the games of superpowers.

Pakistan has been a player in this game since soon after independence and it is not about to change that with China's rise.

 

[Zibago]

Pakistan will not be undone by mere graffiti, my dear Sir. There is always room to seek a new direction.

We stuck by our path America refused to play look what happened
https://clarksvillenow.com/local/taliban-talks-with-u-s-envoy-aimed-at-winding-down-afghanistan-war/
The Afghan end game is winding up on our terms haha

 

[VCheng]

We stuck by our path America refused to play look what happened
https://clarksvillenow.com/local/taliban-talks-with-u-s-envoy-aimed-at-winding-down-afghanistan-war/
The Afghan end game is winding up on our terms haha

Well, if the Afghan end game is winding up on Pakistan's terms, I congratulate Pakistan on playing the great game of international geopolitics better than their opponents, and wish it the best of rewards in return. On to the next one, I suppose.

 

[Zibago]

Well, if the Afghan end game is winding up on Pakistan's terms, I congratulate Pakistan on playing the great game of international geopolitics better than their opponents, and wish it the best of rewards in return. On to the next one, I suppose.

America out of Afghanistan,India feels the burn in Afghanistan leading upto a more FRIENDLY situation in Afghanistan,political stability due to all opposition parties being under the grinder and cpec revitalizing our infrastructure hmm interesting 10 years ahead

 

[VCheng]

America out of Afghanistan,India feels the burn in Afghanistan leading upto a more FRIENDLY situation in Afghanistan,political stability due to all opposition parties being under the grinder and cpec revitalizing our infrastructure hmm interesting 10 years ahead

Interesting times ahead indeed. And if Pakistan's economy skyrockets, the people will benefit, surely. I am all for this.

 

[Yankee-stani]

The ummah again biting Pakistan. This goes on, on and on ....

He says 'no Pakistani'. OBL, the gang that actually carried out the strike were all Arabs. And if it's about the infrastructure of he jihad that sustains these people do note USA is also responsible in building it up in the 1980s when these gods warriors were used against Soviets. I suppose they were 'halal' when it suited US but went 'haram' the moment the paths diverted.

Fun Fact: You know who prepared the syllabus in the jihad factories establisbed by CIA? Yes, University of Nebraska.

During the 1980s My father who migrated to the States and lived in NY Remember in some of the mosques they were raising Money to fight against the Commies in Afghanistan again the 80s was the height of Commie bashing, this would continue when Yugoslavia broke up in the early 1990s, I hated the USSR and in general Russia but Pakistan should have cleaned and made those Tailban members get to senses when they took over in the mid 1990s they failed to clean up the mess sadly cause of domestic politics of the Bhutto's and Sharifs were busy proping themselves up.

Pakistani origin but brought his entire life in Kuwait. Spoke Arabic. If you blend it and extend the net I could blame CIA vicariously for having nurtured these monsters in 1980s.

And nothing has changed since the 1980s only difference is we are not fighting "Communism" but "War on Terror" but the new narrative is to counter "Putins Russia" and the "PRC" cause the whole "WOT" narrative just doese not work anymore look as Syria, The FSA was full of jihadi fighters but the US would prefer a weaker Syria under thumb than strong Syria allied with Iran or Russia.

True but you know and I know the driver, the primary driver was USA. If you took out USA from the equation it would not have happened. Pakistan was the client state that fleshed out Brzezinski's Bear trap .....

Well Brzezinski was a Polish dude and the Poles really hate the Russians going back to centuries before the advent of the Communist USSR this despite they are both Slavic nations but Poland has always been used as buffer between Catholic/Protestant Europe and Orthodox Ukraine/Russia anyways also his parents were Polish diplomats who got screwed by Nazi Germany and Soviet Russia, brilliant when it came to geo-politics but terrible Son of B...tch who bought Saudi Wahhabism to Mid East and Muslim World but I think he saw this personal revenge against what the Soviets did to his motherland

 

[LeGenD]

Pakistan has been a player in this game since soon after independence and it is not about to change that with China's rise.

Pakistan takes pride in SHORT-TERM gains, but suffers in the LONG-TERM. We have no GAME.

1. Separation of East Pakistan (now Bangladesh) due to political mechanisms of Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto. Pakistan Army attempted to suppress this separation movement by force but India exploited the situation to its advantage, and outcome was embarrassing.

2. Millions of Afghans who hate Pakistan TODAY due to Pakistani interventions in Afghanistan (Operation Cyclone to counter Soviets in Afghanistan; Taliban movement). Zia administration failed to realize that a large number of Afghans were into Communism.

4. FATF (and IMF) in exchange for sacrifices rendered in War On Terror campaign, because Pakistan was unable to live up to American expectations in the end.

Yes! China have given us CPEC but once again we are dealing with a superpower in this matter, and we need to watch our backs.

Pakistan should have stood on its own feet by now but 'martial syndrome' got the better of it (ISI no. 1; Army no.1; Establishment no. 1; Everything no. 1).

Not sure we are unlucky or have no strategic depth.

You think all will be good once US leave Afghanistan? Think again. Donald Trump have highlighted Abbottabad on purpose.

 

[Yankee-stani]

Pakistan takes pride in SHORT-TERM gains, but suffers in the LONG-TERM. We have no GAME.

1. Separation of East Pakistan (now Bangladesh) due to political mechanisms of Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto. Pakistan Army attempted to suppress this separation movement by force but India exploited the situation to its advantage, and outcome was embarrassing.

2. Millions of Afghans who hate Pakistan TODAY due to Pakistani interventions in Afghanistan (Operation Cyclone to counter Soviets in Afghanistan; Taliban movement). Zia administration failed to realize that a large number of Afghans were into Communism.

4. FATF (and IMF) in exchange for sacrifices rendered in War On Terror campaign, because Pakistan was unable to live up to American expectations in the end.

Yes! China have given us CPEC but once again we are dealing with a superpower in this matter, and we need to be watch our backs.

Pakistan should have stood on its own feet by now but 'martial syndrome' got the better of it (ISI no. 1; Army no.1; Establishment no. 1; Everything no. 1).

Not sure we are unlucky or have no strategic depth.

Pakistan sucks at cleaning up the mess it did in Afghanistan I mean we could have at least trained the Taliban to stop acting like douchebags when they took over in 1996 and tamed them but we did not failed to that and in 2001 Mushy pulled the plug

 

[VCheng]

Pakistan takes pride in SHORT-TERM gains, but suffers in the LONG-TERM. We have no GAME.

1. Separation of East Pakistan (now Bangladesh) due to political mechanisms of Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto. Pakistan Army attempted to suppress this separation movement by force but India exploited the situation to its advantage, and outcome was embarrassing.

2. Millions of Afghans who hate Pakistan TODAY due to Pakistani interventions in Afghanistan (Operation Cyclone to counter Soviets in Afghanistan; Taliban movement). Zia administration failed to realize that a large number of Afghans were into Communism.

4. FATF (and IMF) in exchange for sacrifices rendered in War On Terror campaign, because Pakistan was unable to live up to American expectations in the end.

Yes! China have given us CPEC but once again we are dealing with a superpower in this matter, and we need to be watch our backs.

Pakistan should have stood on its own feet by now but 'martial syndrome' got the better of it (ISI no. 1; Army no.1; Establishment no. 1; Everything no. 1).

Not sure we are unlucky or have no strategic depth.

Fair points, but they all seemed like good ideas at the time. With the benefit of hindsight, it is easy to judge more harshly.

And besides, what is the option other than playing in the game? Sit it out on the sidelines? Pakistan cannot remain insulated to what is going on all around it, and within it.