Some new car Listed in china recently

[Jordane]

2014 car sales data , Volkswagen be way ahead in china

picture:the advertisement of VW new tiguan filmed in the Kathmandu

Update: Passenger car sales rose to 19,706,827,including 12,507,614 saloon (sedan), 4,105,802 SUV and 1,855,812 MPV.
Some Automobile manufacturers announced 2014 sales data in china.Volkswagen sales 3.5 million cars in china.
30 years ago ,volkswagen began production car in China firstly, and now ,they get everything.
GM did good job too ,they sold 3.3 million cars to chinese in 2014.
No.3: hyundai, 1,120,048
No.4: changan-auto, 975,431
No.5: TOYOTA,956,272
No.6:Nissan, 951,710
No.7:ford ,905,988
No.8:peugeot&citroen 704,016
No.9:KIA ,646,036
No.10:GREATWALL,612,486
There're two local brand in top 10,CHANGAN and GREATWALL. So chinese car brands are still too weak to compete with oversea brand, someone of them maybe disappear,but survivor will win.

 

[TaiShang]

2014 car sales data , Volkswagen be way ahead in china

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picture:the advertisement of VW new tiguan filmed in the Kathmandu

Update: Passenger car sales rose to 19,706,827,including 12,507,614 saloon (sedan), 4,105,802 SUV and 1,855,812 MPV.
Some Automobile manufacturers announced 2014 sales data in china.Volkswagen sales 3.5 million cars in china.
25 years ago ,volkswagen began production car in China firstly, and now ,they get everything.
GM did good job too ,they sold 3.3 million cars to chinese in 2014.
No.3: hyundai, 1,120,048
No.4: changan-auto, 975,431
No.5: TOYOTA,956,272
No.6:Nissan, 951,710
No.7:ford ,905,988
No.8:peugeot&citroen 704,016
No.9:KIA ,646,036
No.10:GREATWALL,612,486
There're two local brand in top 10,CHANGAN and GREATWALL. So chinese car brands are still too weak to compete with oversea brand, someone of them maybe disappear,but survivor will win.

Needless to remind that all the foreign car companies that manufacture in China do it through a joint venture and used extensive domestic base.

Hopefully, sooner than later, domestic brands will catch up with the foreign JVs and a more healthy market share balance is achieved. One would like to hear similar good news like we hear on mobile front. Of course, the car market is much more rigid and hard to break in.

At No. 5, Toyota is surprising. Among foreigners, I would like to see Toyota to assume leadership. Honda is great, as well, but even does not make to top 10. I am not familiar Honda has yet a JV in China.

@Nihonjin1051 , any report on the Japan's side as to the production and sales strategy to capture higher market shares?

 

[Jordane]

Needless to remind that all the foreign car companies that manufacture in China do it through a joint venture and used extensive domestic base.

Hopefully, sooner than later, domestic brands will catch up with the foreign JVs and a more healthy market share balance is achieved. One would like to hear similar good news like we hear on mobile front. Of course, the car market is much more rigid and hard to break in.

At No. 5, Toyota is surprising. Among foreigners, I would like to see Toyota to assume leadership. Honda is great, as well, but even does not make to top 10. I am not familiar Honda has yet a JV in China.

@Nihonjin1051 , any report on the Japan's side as to the production and sales strategy to capture higher market shares?

This is not the final ranking,honda is still in top 10 actually,maybe 8 or 9,but I think honda losed 2014 in china due to new-model drought .

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

Needless to remind that all the foreign car companies that manufacture in China do it through a joint venture and used extensive domestic base.

If they are produced locally can you explain the higher price @cnleio pointed out earlier? It can't be just from an engine size tax....

 

[Tractor]

New Mercedes-Benz C class is so good and the price is RMB 300,000.

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

New Mercedes-Benz C class is so good and the price is RMB 300,000.

That's actually their lowest end model here in the U.S. starting in the $37,000 range.

 

[Jordane]

That's actually their lowest end model here in the U.S. starting in the $37,000 range.

that's cheap! so everybody in america can afford a benz?

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

that's cheap! so everybody in america can afford a benz?

It's certainly not ridiculously priced compared to some other cars.
The problem is reliability. The C series was pretty notorious for electrical problems. Not sure if they have fixed it.
Many do not consider them "real" Mercedes (ie high quality machines...although Mercedes seems to be coming out with a new C model this year that they claim is a "real" one)

The lower end BMW's don't seem to have as bad a reputation...but still not excellent. Again anything under a "5" is not considered a "real" BMW.

BMW North America

But instead of buying a low end BMW/Mercedes people usually buy a minivan or SUV.
This is more popular for instance

I can't find a good page that lists all the Mercedes prices...will look harder later when i have time. The best page I can find is for 2014 New Mercedes-Benz Cars - Find 2015 2016 Mercedes Car Prices & Reviews - Motor Trend Magazine

CLA: $29,900
C-class : $35,800
B: $40,000
SLK: $43,000
E: $51,000
CLS: $65,900
SL: $84,000
S: $92,000
CL: $116,000

 

[Jordane]

It's certainly not ridiculously priced compared to some other cars.
The problem is reliability. The C series was pretty notorious for electrical problems. Not sure if they have fixed it.
Many do not consider them "real" Mercedes (ie high quality machines...although Mercedes seems to be coming out with a new C model this year that they claim is a "real" one)

The lower end BMW's don't seem to have as bad a reputation...but still not excellent. Again anything under a "5" is not considered a "real" BMW

I can't find a good page that lists all the Mercedes prices...will look harder later when i have time.

A very detailed listing，thank you friend!
So benz and BMW are not expensive in America。But Japanese cars are more popular than German lower end cars.You usually choose a Japanese car in the same price because Japanese cars generally have higher reliability than German. I got it.
But that's very different in China.
It runs deep in chinese consciousness that the more expensive, the better it is.German cars are more expensive than Japanese, so they're better.It's not just the problem of tax, you know,automobile manufacturers raise prices to prove that this is a good car。Can't understand it right?
In china, car dealers will rise up price based on the official price.What?you don't wanna give additional money ? Ok, wait for eight months, there is a car to sale you perhaps in that time.This phenomenon has existed in the Tiguan car for four years，many chinese are willing to pay an additional $3000 for it。You see,we can't wait and we would like to pay for cutting in line. As long as I can get it immediately , the others are not important.
What,this car have reduced price? Ok,I don't like this car anymore,which car saled in this price?
You see ,this is chinese ,rich and bitch!

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

A very detailed listing，thank you friend!
So benz and BMW are not expensive in America。But Japanese cars are more popular than German lower end cars.You usually choose a Japanese car in the same price because Japanese cars generally have higher reliability than German. I got it.
But that's very different in China.
It runs deep in chinese consciousness that the more expensive, the better it is.German cars are more expensive than Japanese, so they're better.It's not just the problem of tax, you know,automobile manufacturers raise prices to prove that this is a good car。Can't understand it right?
In china, car dealers will rise up price in the official price.What?you don't wanna give additional money ? Ok, wait for eight months, there is a car to sale you perhaps in that time.This phenomenon has existed in the Tiguan car for four years，many chinese are willing to pay an additional $3000 for it。You see,we can't wait and we would like to pay for cutting in line. As long as I can get it immediately , the others are not important.
What,this car The car have reduced price? Ok,I don't like this car anymore,which car saled in this price?
You see ,this is chinese ,rich and bitch!

Many people see the lower end BMW/Mercedes like the iPhone5C....a plastic model...and not the "real" thing. A dumbed down version without the known quality.

 

[Jordane]

Many people see the lower end BMW/Mercedes like the iPhone5C....a plastic model...and not the "real" thing. A dumbed down version without the known quality.

The reason of iphone 5C's failure in china is uncomplicated，it's too cheap to prove some success.People who buy 5C will be thought can not afford 5S。It's still the law what I said,appropriate expensive is very important in China.This may itself is a mistake to Iphone to sale some cheaper things.People using Iphones don't need cheap.

CLA: $29,900
C-class : $35,800
B: $40,000
SLK: $43,000
E: $51,000
CLS: $65,900
SL: $84,000
S: $92,000
CL: $116,000

It's very cheaper than china's price actually, CLS is my dream car,but I still can't afford it even if it's just $65,900.I'm a poor man now, T T.@Peter C What's the proportion of people who can afford $65,900 car in America?

 

[Hamartia Antidote]

The reason of iphone 5C's failure in china is uncomplicated，it's too cheap to prove some success.People who buy 5C will be thought can not afford 5S。It's still the law what I said,appropriate expensive is very important in China.This may itself is a mistake to Iphone to sale some cheaper things.People using Iphones don't need cheap.

CLA: $29,900
C-class : $35,800
B: $40,000
SLK: $43,000
E: $51,000
CLS: $65,900
SL: $84,000
S: $92,000
CL: $116,000

It's very cheaper than china's price actually, CLS is my dream car,but I still can't afford it even if it's just $65,900.I'm a poor man now, T T.@Peter C What's the proportion of people who can afford $65,900 car in America?

Depends upon buying or leasing (for 3 years). If you lease it for 3 years @$779/mo it isn't very hard for most people.
As for buying...well most people would find it hard to justify blowing $65k on something that goes down substantially in value every year. It's just a bad investment.


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[Jordane]

LEASE means that you will give it back after 3 years?
Yes as we know,it isn't an investment to buy a car.It's consumption.
If you have 300k dollars,$65k car is just a little thing.300k dollars is a lot of money in china because of exchange rate, but I think it isn't a big problem to an America family.

 

[bolo]

Foreign cars sell in China market, more expensive than sell in foreign nations.

Foreign cars sell in China market, more expensive than sell in foreign nations.

Cheapest place to buy car is US

2014 car sales data , Volkswagen be way ahead in china

View attachment 183318
picture:the advertisement of VW new tiguan filmed in the Kathmandu

Update: Passenger car sales rose to 19,706,827,including 12,507,614 saloon (sedan), 4,105,802 SUV and 1,855,812 MPV.
Some Automobile manufacturers announced 2014 sales data in china.Volkswagen sales 3.5 million cars in china.
30 years ago ,volkswagen began production car in China firstly, and now ,they get everything.
GM did good job too ,they sold 3.3 million cars to chinese in 2014.
No.3: hyundai, 1,120,048
No.4: changan-auto, 975,431
No.5: TOYOTA,956,272
No.6:Nissan, 951,710
No.7:ford ,905,988
No.8:peugeot&citroen 704,016
No.9:KIA ,646,036
No.10:GREATWALL,612,486
There're two local brand in top 10,CHANGAN and GREATWALL. So chinese car brands are still too weak to compete with oversea brand, someone of them maybe disappear,but survivor will win.

You guys really like Hyundai. they are a piece of crap. I rather buy American car.

Just test drove Nissan Rogue. The CVT tranny is crap. Not going to buy.

 

[Jordane]

Cheapest place to buy car is US


You guys really like Hyundai. they are a piece of crap. I rather buy American car.

Just test drove Nissan Rogue. The CVT tranny is crap. Not going to buy.

What's the car you drive now?
And where are you live now?